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Truck is Stalling! - 9/27/2007 10:02:43 AM   
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I've got an 05 Dakota Laramie 4x4 Quad cab and the past week the engine has shut off  a number of times when coming to a stop.  It seems that the idle speed gets too low when coming to a stop.  Has anyone had this problem?  If so, is something I can do or do I need to take it in for warranty work?
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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/27/2007 10:11:10 AM   
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Warranty work,  I had the same porblem too it to the dealer and had my PCM re-flashed with new software upgrades.  It's a flaw with the software that was origonally put during production, they usually provide the upgrade the first time it's in..........   Check with your dealer.

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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/27/2007 1:18:02 PM   
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My 06 Raider does this and Mitsu has no software upgread.  Do you have a TSB or something that talks about this.  I have had my PCM, Cam Sensor, and Crank sensor replaced and nothing fixed it.

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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/27/2007 3:17:57 PM   
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My 06 Raider does this and Mitsu has no software upgread.  Do you have a TSB or something that talks about this.  I have had my PCM, Cam Sensor, and Crank sensor replaced and nothing fixed it.


I believe the PCM programming is the same for both so the Dodge reflash might work for you if you can get them to do it.


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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/27/2007 6:54:04 PM   
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I called the dealership shop, this afternoon, and they said that it is "probably" the spark plugs since I didn't change them out at 30K.  I've got 35K on the truck now.  The rep had stated that since "Check Engine Light" didn't come on that it was probably a maintenance thing.  I've had many vehicles and  I've never changed the spark splugs and they ran "Great" with over 100K.  And they where Dodge.

Today, after I talked with dealership, I had my truck in the driveway, in park, and it was idleing at 750 rpms and then it would drop down to 400rpms.  It kept cycling like this for about 20mins until I turned it off. 

To me it doesn't sound like "Spark plugs".   

I've got an appt. on Monday, Oct. 1st.  to have them look at this but any info would be great!!!!

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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/27/2007 7:04:48 PM   
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Could always try changing the plugs, they don't cost much.  My integra took a set of plugs every 10-15k or it would start running like total crap (MSD ignition ate the plugs a lot faster)

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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/27/2007 9:10:52 PM   
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your idle port on the throttle body may be dirty and the idle motor may be trying to get the air flow correct but cant, thus the surging. You can clean these very easy by removing the plastic intake baffle that runs between your air cleaner and throttle body. Then using basic carb cleaner, start the motor and lightly spray the idle port( located on the lower right of the throttle body). I've done this with a previous dak but at higher millage(70K) and it fixed it. worth a try.

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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/28/2007 5:36:58 AM   
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I'm pretty sure I saw a thread a few weeks ago about this same problem. The solution: go to the dealer and have the PCM reflashed. Problem solved.

I forget where the thread is and I'm too busy to look, but it should be here somewhere.


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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/28/2007 7:36:46 AM   
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New plugs did not fix mine.  Anyone have info on the PCM reprogram.  Mitsu has not heard of it.  A TSB # or something I can tell them.  I sure a Dodge dealer would charge me to do it, if they do it at all.

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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/28/2007 7:45:51 AM   
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Mine is doing it still as well. Had taken it to the dealership several times over the past year with stalling issues, every time they would tell me they didn't pull any codes or find anything wrong. Out of nowhere at my last oil change they come to me and say my TB is dirty and needs $174 cleaning and that was causing my stalling. I said isn't this covered under warranty and they said no it is caused by water in the gas. I have used the same BP gas station by my house for the past 7 years and never had a problem with any vehicle and I've had around 6 different ones in that time. I ended up cleaning it out myself and it was filthy but even after cleaning it the truck still idles like it has a big cam in it. Kind of embarrassing when the wife's minivan idles smoother than a V8. If anyone finds anything out let me know as well. I'm sick of this!

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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/28/2007 7:46:52 AM   
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Oh yeah I changed the plugs as well, 24k miles and they were almost completely gone.

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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/28/2007 9:23:30 AM   
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This might be the TSB, I'm not positive.
http://www.dodgeforum.com/recalls-and-tsbs/make_DODGE/model_DAKOTA/year_2005/id_D46/TSB.htm


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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/28/2007 9:32:11 AM   
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I had the same problem.  No codes came up, but the stealership said that the EGR valves in our Dak's are known to malfunction.  They chnaged it under warranty and I've had no problems since.  That was 2 months ago.  I don't know if it actually fixed the problem our it'sjust pure coincidence.

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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/28/2007 6:30:04 PM   
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The key phrase here........ I took it to the dealer or dealer said this.........  Where's that "service manager" when you need one.  If I'm not mistaken every time the dealer "fixes" something they re-flash the PCM to make the PCM aware of the new part or numbers that would come up so it doesn't throw a code.   If they fixed a EGR valve then quite possibly they might of re-flashed the PCM in the process?  I would put money that TSB is not only for the 05's but the 06's as well.  Mine is an 06 with 31k and the only time it's given me a problem is when it wouldnt stop stalling.  PCM re-flash with new software at 21k never had a problem since.  I also baby the damned thing anywayz, oil change, tire rotation, premium fuel, preimum oil, premium filters, spark plugs every 15k, dropped the tranny had it serviced with new fluid and the works at 28k.  I've put more money in my truck then I have quiet possibly anywhere else besides my home........

Anyway, Thank you Altair for putting forth the effort and finding the TSB.  I didnt have the patience to search the other day.

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RE: Truck is Stalling! - 9/30/2007 2:57:07 PM   
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I had the same porblem with my 05 dak, I took it to the dealer and they told me I had a bad EGR valve, had it replced under warranty and the porblem has not come back, it's been about a year now.  Maybe have them check that out if they haven't already

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