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RE: Gas mileage after switch to amsoil... - 8/4/2007 2:23:11 PM
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texasbluedak
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Just curious as to how much the entire process cost of switching over? Are you saving the difference between 3 mpg? If so, then its worth it.
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RE: Gas mileage after switch to amsoil... - 8/4/2007 2:42:20 PM
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Dak_in_Black
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Switching out all the fluids in both vehicles, filters (oil and tranny), RTV, sparkplugs was probably close to $400 or so...
I am not going to have to change the fluid in the tranny, transfercase, or differentials for a while so I will get a return there..I change the oil once a year.
If I drove the truck more often than I do, I would probably get back the money I put into it sooner, but I only use the truck on the weekends or when it is raining during the week. I ride the motorcycle to the train station most days and until it gets too cold to ride (November or so, or when there is a chance of ice on the roads).
Given the crappy mileage I got last winter had I gotten 14mpg instead of 11mpg I could have saved about $125 (providing I did the math right!)
< Message edited by Dak_in_Black -- 8/4/2007 2:44:37 PM >
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RE: Gas mileage after switch to amsoil... - 8/4/2007 2:49:26 PM
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texasbluedak
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I've heard you mention the Amsoil many times and I had no idea the interval length was that long. I can see where that would pay off, even in the short term. I appreciate you telling me that. I was considering making a change to the full senthetic Mobile 1 that allows 15k before changing. Any thoughts on that since I can't afford the full swap with Amsoil, at least for now?
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RE: Gas mileage after switch to amsoil... - 8/4/2007 3:27:18 PM
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Altair
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I've heard you mention the Amsoil many times and I had no idea the interval length was that long. I can see where that would pay off, even in the short term. I appreciate you telling me that. I was considering making a change to the full senthetic Mobile 1 that allows 15k before changing. Any thoughts on that since I can't afford the full swap with Amsoil, at least for now?
If you just want to change the oil the Amsoil isn't too bad on cost. I'm getting some soon for my oil and rear diff. Talk to turbo-tbird about it, he's an Amsoil dealer 
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RE: Gas mileage after switch to amsoil... - 8/4/2007 6:19:28 PM
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Dak_in_Black
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Ok, let me clarify...
AMSOIL extended drain if you use their filter
Normal Service(3) - Up to 35,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.
Severe Service(4) - Up to 17,500 miles or one year, whichever comes first.
(3) Personal transportation vehicles frequently traveling greater than 10 miles (16km) at a time and not operating under severe service.
(4) Turbo/supercharged vehicles, commercial or fleet vehicles, excessive engine idling, first and subsequent use of AMSOIL engine oil in vehicles with over 100,000 miles, daily short-trip driving (less than 10 miles), frequent towing, plowing, hauling or dusty-condition driving.
Now, with that being said I don't drive 35,000 miles in one year. Given that during most of the year I ride the bike, I may fall under Severe Service (short trips), but I certainly don't drive 17,500 during the winter either, so I change it every year. I did a oil analyis the last time I changed the oil and it was fine...
Now about cost I use the 0W-30 which is 9.99 a quart, but if you get the 'preferred customer' card that price drops to 7.65. Also cheaper if you buy it by the gallon (which I do as I have two vehicles). The 'preferred customer' card costs $20.00 *but* if you spend about $100, then you make that back in the discount. I'm buying for two vehicles, so for me it makes sense YMMV....
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RE: Gas mileage after switch to amsoil... - 8/4/2007 9:04:00 PM
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dang, im not having to do any work in this thread lol :)
dut yes, the preferd customer card does save money, deffinatly if you are going to switch the whole thing over which like others said will cost a bit. I will be doing mine when I get the chance. let me know if you guys need anything, I can also sign you up as a preffered customer. there is a catalog on my site in my sig or I can mail you one.
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RE: Gas mileage after switch to amsoil... - 8/5/2007 5:28:08 AM
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Dak_in_Black
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dang, im not having to do any work in this thread lol :)
 Please feel free to throw a 'consulting fee' our way for services rendered!!
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RE: Gas mileage after switch to amsoil... - 8/6/2007 8:42:18 AM
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Altair
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I'm sorry but you know what? i would never leave oil or an oil filter on my truck for more than 5,000 miles no matter what kinda guarantee a company gave me! like seriously who would leave oil in there car for a year? like i met this one idiot who bought that Mobil one 15K oil...and left it in there for 15,000 miles... oh oyeah his motor was gunked up! but yeah uhm sorry thats just me...i would never do that! i use synthetic and I change it every 3,000miles...I know you can change it every 5,000 but i just change it every 3,000.
You can run oil longer than 3k pretty easily. My grandfather's 96 Dodge Ram he changed the oil every 10k, this was using napa oil filters and regular napa dino oil. He put over 200,000 miles on it before he sold it with the engine still running strong, he talked to the guy who bought it the other day. Guy said it's the best truck he's ever had, he's got over 260,000 on it now with no troubles whatsoever.
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RE: Gas mileage after switch to amsoil... - 8/6/2007 10:12:26 AM
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Dak_in_Black
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I'm sorry but you know what? i would never leave oil or an oil filter on my truck for more than 5,000 miles no matter what kinda guarantee a company gave me!
To each his own...
I left the oil in there for a year, did the oil analysis and everything came back within acceptable tolerances...
Mobil 1 is not a Group IV Synthetic motor oil, it is a Group III (basically a more highly refined motory oil). What did you 'buddy' use before the Mobil 1? How often did he change his oil? Without further information it is hard to say that a one time use of Mobil 1 would cause his engine to 'gunk up'.
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RE: Gas mileage after switch to amsoil... - 8/6/2007 11:24:59 AM
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BrewerBob
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ORIGINAL: turbot_bird
dang, im not having to do any work in this thread lol :)
dut yes, the preferd customer card does save money, deffinatly if you are going to switch the whole thing over which like others said will cost a bit. I will be doing mine when I get the chance. let me know if you guys need anything, I can also sign you up as a preffered customer. there is a catalog on my site in my sig or I can mail you one.
Ok, I'll put you to work then...
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ORIGINAL: texasblue
I was considering making a change to the full senthetic Mobile 1 that allows 15k before changing. Any thoughts on that since I can't afford the full swap with Amsoil, at least for now?
What the hell is Amsoil? Isn't it just a brand name for a synthetic "oil"?
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Ok, let me clarify...
AMSOIL extended drain if you use their filter
Normal Service(3) - Up to 35,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.
Severe Service(4) - Up to 17,500 miles or one year, whichever comes first.
How is your Amsoil different than the others? I haven't paid much attention to syns yet as I haven't used any. But these internals sound a bit much on the mileage. And who's bright idea was it to say it's only good for a year regardless of mileage? Normal use is good to twice the distance and heavy use yet they both crap out at 1yr? Yeah, yeah I know it's a gradual thing and not good one day and worthless the next but the normal should be twice as long. Unless, you have something funky going on with evaporation or some kind of chemical reaction.
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