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How many Stealth owners do we - 1/30/2004 8:26:13 PM   
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[  Did they cut teh FW when they installed the new clutch?  That could be it.


They did. I looked at www.stealth316.com, and they had an excellent article on replacing the tranny/clutch...and it said specifically that the flywheel *must* be "two-stepped" or else, the clutch "will slip"!


I called the shop today, and the tech says he thinks maybe its the shaft that goes through the center of the tranny, into the transfer case. He said perhaps the "teeth" on it are stripped, and that is why it is slipping. He also said the transfer case has a clutch in it, which could have been burnt up.


He said they will open it up, and look to see if that shaft is even turning.


But I have not run it hard, nor raced it, since my new tranny in...2000 or so. I don't hear anything grinding, or crashing, not like when the tranny went bad. Just...first and second are s**t. And third is questionable. It does the exact same thing it was doing when I took it to the transmission shop, except now I don't get the noise from what must've been the throwout bearing.


My question to him was...if the shaft is torn up, then why doesn't it seem to slip in 4th or 5th, even at low speeds? And why is reverse perfect? And why no noise?


He said that when you get going, centrifugal force holds it more tightly together. OK. But I have tested it in every gear, at every possible speed and engine RPM, and it's consistent: If I am driving 30mph in 1st gear, it's slipping like crazy. If I am in 4th or 5th, I don't slip. Of course, the engine isn't thrilled about such a low speed in high gear. I thought it might be related to the RPM's...but again, when I am doing 2200 RPM, I am going about 65mph, and slippage is not apparent. But if I am in 1st or 2nd gear, and doing 2200 RPM, I am barely crawling forward.


  >Or, do you have an aftermarket FW, like the RPS or fidanza? 


No, it's stock.


 >Also, NEVER, NEVER NEEEEEEVER buy a centerforce clutch for these cars!!!!!!!!! 


That's what Altered Atmosphere put in it last time, and it worked out well for me. But I did not race it, either. Just drove to work with it.


If it's not the shaft that runs through the transmission, then he thinks it's the transfer case. OK, so how do you "prove" it is the transfer case, or better yet, prove that it is not? Do you turn the wheels one way, and watch if the others spin, like the old posi-track differentials?


He said something about how the Stealth makes most of its power primarily to the rear wheels, then the front ones are secondary, and when it was up on the lift, it didn't seem like all four wheels were turning together.


But that was just some research he did, as he apparently hasn't worked on one before. And I doubt he ever wants to again!


I'll give you a call, sometime Monday, I really appreciate it!


Thanks again,


 


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How many Stealth owners do we - 2/3/2004 7:44:24 PM   
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Hi all,


I have a 92 Dodge Stealth R/T.


 


 


 


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How many Stealth owners do we - 2/4/2004 9:11:28 AM   
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[QUOTE=93StealthTT][QUOTE=Speed Factor][QUOTE=93StealthTT]

[  Did they cut teh FW when they installed the new clutch?  That could be it.


They did. I looked at www.stealth316.com, and they had an excellent article on replacing the tranny/clutch...and it said specifically that the flywheel *must* be "two-stepped" or else, the clutch "will slip"!


I called the shop today, and the tech says he thinks maybe its the shaft that goes through the center of the tranny, into the transfer case. He said perhaps the "teeth" on it are stripped, and that is why it is slipping. He also said the transfer case has a clutch in it, which could have been burnt up.


He said they will open it up, and look to see if that shaft is even turning.


But I have not run it hard, nor raced it, since my new tranny in...2000 or so. I don't hear anything grinding, or crashing, not like when the tranny went bad. Just...first and second are s**t. And third is questionable. It does the exact same thing it was doing when I took it to the transmission shop, except now I don't get the noise from what must've been the throwout bearing.


My question to him was...if the shaft is torn up, then why doesn't it seem to slip in 4th or 5th, even at low speeds? And why is reverse perfect? And why no noise?


He said that when you get going, centrifugal force holds it more tightly together. OK. But I have tested it in every gear, at every possible speed and engine RPM, and it's consistent: If I am driving 30mph in 1st gear, it's slipping like crazy. If I am in 4th or 5th, I don't slip. Of course, the engine isn't thrilled about such a low speed in high gear. I thought it might be related to the RPM's...but again, when I am doing 2200 RPM, I am going about 65mph, and slippage is not apparent. But if I am in 1st or 2nd gear, and doing 2200 RPM, I am barely crawling forward.


  >Or, do you have an aftermarket FW, like the RPS or fidanza? 


No, it's stock.


 >Also, NEVER, NEVER NEEEEEEVER buy a centerforce clutch for these cars!!!!!!!!! 


That's what Altered Atmosphere put in it last time, and it worked out well for me. But I did not race it, either. Just drove to work with it.


If it's not the shaft that runs through the transmission, then he thinks it's the transfer case. OK, so how do you "prove" it is the transfer case, or better yet, prove that it is not? Do you turn the wheels one way, and watch if the others spin, like the old posi-track differentials?


He said something about how the Stealth makes most of its power primarily to the rear wheels, then the front ones are secondary, and when it was up on the lift, it didn't seem like all four wheels were turning together.


But that was just some research he did, as he apparently hasn't worked on one before. And I doubt he ever wants to again!


I'll give you a call, sometime Monday, I really appreciate it!


Thanks again,


 


Scopata Fuori


 


 


[/QUOTE] That's bull.  Its definitely not the transfer case or the shaft.  If the T/C was going bad, it wouldn't slip, all 4 wheels would just lock up.  If the clutch is slipping, its one of only 4 things. 


1.  Bad clutch


2.  Bad Flywheel


3.  Rear main seal is leaking, thus getting oil on the Clutch, making it slip.


4.  Input shaft seal is leaking, cause the same affect as the rear main seal.


Its one of those 4 things, but you can tell them its definitely not the transfer case.


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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/13/2004 2:19:14 PM   
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Hey sup everyone I got a 1991 stealth R/T twin turbo i have raced alot of carz with it had my share of problems check engine cause of an o2 sensor.. but it seems to be running good now its being stored for the winter because i live in michigan...i just got it back right before the first snowfall..it was in tha body shop being fixxed because during the blackout a exsploer pulled infront of me and I did everything i could not to hit him but i was doin 30mph and i hate less than a sec to react so i hit him...it pealed back the hold right side fender which my friend was in tha car with me and it pushed it so far back his door would not open...after a few months i had it back not running all that great so i took it back and my abs light was on and they did not know why and some other problems with the paint job but otherwise its doing good i just got some botsche 4 spark spark plugs for it i hope they make it run better...i am thinkin of replacing the tail wing on it with a much better looking one...let me know if u have any good cheap modz i can put on it...+ i have been hearing of how i can add 20h/p by removing a plastic insurt from tha boost control solinoid and i was wounding before i did so if anyone i has tryied or heard of that any replies about that will b good...thanks

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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/15/2004 4:23:59 AM   
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Welcome! Sounds like you got a great car. I always wanted a Stealth R/T TT, but the price kinda kept me from getting one. Being that it's a '91 I thought that I would inform you that they were recalled for leaky transfer cases causing bearing damage and the plastic seat belt release buttons can break into peices causing seat belt failure.

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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/17/2004 1:56:26 AM   
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Hey everybody, another new member lovin the site! Im totally blown away by the stealth and would soon love to become an owner. Im 18 years old, have a steady job, and have a chrysler daytona as it stands. I have done a few things to it, it is in minty shape and i usually get lots of compliments on it, but when i see a stealth drive by, i want to hide my car in shame!! Anyways, i live in Canada...Manitoba to be exact. We dont have the greatest selection of these beautiful cars but i would love to get some information on any Canadian stealths out there. The specs on the year/make and how you guys like driving them. I have never been in a stealth, but i could only imagine. Also if you guys could help me out on prices...what would be a good price for a certain year/model. Im sorry i have to ask all these questions here but i just cant find alot of info on them and thought you guys would be the best place to ask. Anyways, ill be checking here regularly! Thanks for all your help and I'm jealous of ALL OF YOU!

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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/25/2004 1:05:44 PM   
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I own a '93 Stealth R/T( at least that what I was told and how Registered it. It is the 3000 DOHC with only single exhaust but the rear bumber has two opening for dual exhasut) Put a $4000 CDN custom Orange and Black paint on it with a ARPerformance Wing. Left the stock wing on, it still looks awesome. Tried to post some pictures but I guess they are to large in memory - try again when the snow goes away.
I have one little problem though. Last fall I had put new 265-55-16 Hancooks on it and was at set of lights and just had to show this Ford a thing or two. Damn good grip, left him spining his tires. But got a bad wheel hope around 5 grand. Now the Tour/Sport light keeps flashing. Tested the module in the back passenger panel and seems just fine. Could I of broke a Strut? Anything else I should check first? I haven't tested the connector under the drivers seat yet.
Thanks Darrell

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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/25/2004 6:11:07 PM   
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So, is it a Stealth or a 3000GT. If it is a Stealth w/ a 3kgt bumper it would have the dual outlets. On the RT stealths, there is a way to cut out the place where the passenger side exhaust would be. I have read that wheel hop can be caused by faulty motor mounts. I don't know what could be wrong with the tour/sport mode. How does it ride, does it feel like it is in sport, or does it feel like it is in tour mode? Does it change when you press the button? Take off the caps of the front struts to make sure everything is still hooked up properly, you may have loosened a connection when you had the wheel hop.

Let us know what it turns out to be.

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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/25/2004 9:27:32 PM   
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The front bumber has "STEALTH" molded into it but there is no markings or nameplate on the rear bumber. When I bought the car the guy said this was way the R/T's were. Dual outlets under the bumber but only single exhaust. Is there any other tell tale in or on the car to tell if in fact it is a R/T. Or should I do some searching with the VIN? Is there a differnce between a "Plain" Stealth and a "R/T" Stealth? MIne is loaded with leather and electronic climate control. As for the mode, it feels like it stuck in the Tour mode. Nothing changes when I push the Mode button, it just keeps flashing. I have checked the connections on top of the strut tower - power and continuity seems good. Is there more connections I should look at under the black caps. I'll check it out.
Thanks Darrell

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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/26/2004 12:38:30 PM   
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Well, that car in the attachment is not a Stealth lol. Very nice looking stang. The rear bumper should say Stealth RT on it under the passenger side tail lamp. The RT's only had single exhaust exiting on the drivers side. The plain jane model Stealths did not have as "aggressive looking" ground effects on them. They also had body color sail panels (c-pillar covers). The RT/TT did have dual exhaust outlets. Your car is not a TT correct?

As far as your tour/sport mode check this guys site.
http://www.stealth316.com/
If you can't find what you need there try here. http://www.3si.org/forum/index.php

Good luck, and lets see a pic of the stealth.

Billy

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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/26/2004 10:53:19 PM   
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Great links. Thanks Will keep looking. As for the 69 Mustang (Embarasing to say on this forum) But it's mine also. My son was showing me how to post the Stealth pictures and we kept getting "Page could not be dis" error and tried the Mustang pic and could not remove it. That Ford I was refering to was the stang with my son driviing it. We were on Main Street, Moose Jaw and just could not resist. I had taken the 8" rear end out and put a 9" with 4.11's. When the light turned green the Stealth just snapped right up, In the rear view all I could see smoke and the front of the stang. Son said it launched good but could not get traction. Need bigger tires I quess, still have the 24" dia. on it... Was always a MOPAR fan, used to own a 68 Sport Satellite, 383, Hurst knife - Then got married. Was looking for a Cuda or Challenger back in '97 came across the Mustang at excellent price. $6000.00 later This is what I have. Damn expensive to work on, them stangs. Going to get some smaller memory pictures of the Stealth soon and I will post them. No the Stealth is not a Twin Turbo, just the 3000 DOHC. There is no marking below the tailight, would it be molded in or just a emblem?

Sorry for going on and on Darrell

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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/26/2004 11:21:09 PM   
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Thats a sharp Mustang you have there.I'm not a Ford person, but I like some models of other makes/makers.

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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/27/2004 11:49:19 AM   
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It is molded into the body work. If you think the mustang is expensive, wait until you have to repair the Stealth. How many miles are on it. If it has more than 60k look into replacing the water pump and timing belt. You do not want a T-belt failure.

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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/27/2004 12:52:16 PM   
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Looking at the rear bumber, I looked to see if they had patched it where the "Stealth" should be and looks good. Looked under the car and can't see any damage evidence, cause maybe it was replace because of an accident. The car was an Emerald green before we painted it and when we were prepping it there was no signs of any filler. The bumber looked like original paint but maybe it was replaced at one time.Where might of this bumber come from? Could it be an aftermarket? The Stealth has 158k on it now, had it for over a year now and so far only had to replace the clutch slave cylinder. Very easy to replace and bleed and only $69 CDN at NAPA ($122 at Chrysler). Hopefully my Tour/Sport problem will be cheap and easy also. (Fingers are crossed)
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RE: How many Stealth owners do we - 2/27/2004 1:16:44 PM   
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Here are some pics of a Stealth ES, Stealth RT, Stealth RTTT, and a Mitsu 3000VR4. This may help you tell what the rear bumper came from. I think, but am not certain, that the badging on the 3000 is removable. The key difference between the 3000 and Stealth is around the liscense plate. Hope this helps.


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