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RE: homade power wire - 7/1/2007 8:15:42 PM    Cuban11182   Posts: 371 Joined: 4/6/2007 Status: offline I honestly after thinking about it dont see how this would work.....this is the same thing that the people sell on ebay claiming 35+ horsepower selling them for 10 bux. In theory it works....but so does the flux capacitor. i really dunno (in reply to Altair) Post #: 31

RE: homade power wire - 7/1/2007 8:51:23 PM    ericemery DF Site Moderator Posts: 4093 Joined: 1/30/2007 From: Michigan Status: offline well,  the ebay things connect to "mass airflow sensors"...  our trucks dont have one.  we are simply modifing a signal that is being sent to the computer...   I just did mine and I have to admit that it does run noticably better in the low end now...  I would guess it works. _____________________________ 2006 SLT 4X4 Quad cab V8. I have a myspace? Yahoo: pbgeric AIM: Eric06Dak (in reply to Cuban11182) Post #: 32

RE: homade power wire - 7/2/2007 12:30:10 AM    Frenchy Third Gen Dakota King Posts: 5347 Joined: 12/11/2003 From: United States Status: offline It's the same exact thing that AIR_RAM on DT sells, but just doesn't look as pretty.... and there are HUNDREDS of people at DT that swear by this mod, and I have to say, I'm liking mine the more I drive it.... _____________________________ Click me if you want me at the Dodge Forum Meet and Greet (in reply to ericemery) Post #: 33

RE: homade power wire - 7/2/2007 2:10:29 AM    turbot_bird Posts: 1902 Joined: 12/15/2005 From: Winter Garden, Fl Status: offline me too, ive been loading it up with 93 and it loves it. been raining alot down here the past 2 days so been having to take it easy _____________________________ AMSOIL Dealer www.Notnormalmotorsports.com www.NotNormalPhotography.PhotoReflect.com (in reply to Frenchy) Post #: 34

RE: homade power wire - 7/2/2007 2:11:38 AM    Frenchy Third Gen Dakota King Posts: 5347 Joined: 12/11/2003 From: United States Status: offline So you think the premium makes a real difference in it, Jamey? _____________________________ Click me if you want me at the Dodge Forum Meet and Greet (in reply to turbot_bird) Post #: 35

RE: homade power wire - 7/2/2007 2:38:52 AM    turbot_bird Posts: 1902 Joined: 12/15/2005 From: Winter Garden, Fl Status: offline I like it, I think it helps with the advanced timing, probably not needed but I like to run it to cut down on detonation. just an old habit with the turbo bird _____________________________ AMSOIL Dealer www.Notnormalmotorsports.com www.NotNormalPhotography.PhotoReflect.com (in reply to Frenchy) Post #: 36

RE: homade power wire - 7/2/2007 7:42:37 AM    AdidasCJ   Posts: 255 Joined: 3/14/2006 Status: offline Where is the link from the orginal thread. Im still confused on what and were its being hooked up too.... (in reply to turbot_bird) Post #: 37

RE: homade power wire - 7/3/2007 2:39:11 PM    Cuban11182   Posts: 371 Joined: 4/6/2007 Status: offline So it a 4.7K ohm...poop i got a 47 ohm guess i have to go back to radioshack. (in reply to ericemery) Post #: 38

RE: homade power wire - 7/3/2007 3:08:17 PM    pro4x4 Posts: 393 Joined: 4/13/2007 Status: offline I am still skeptical about this power wire. I see where it might be good in the summer time when its hot and the computer thinking the intake air is cooler than it is but what about in the winter. Here in the philly pa area it can get pretty cold. Will this setup still work when its 30 degrees or colder? _____________________________ pro4x405dak www.cardomain.com/ride/2576627 www.metalheadguitarworks.com (in reply to Cuban11182) Post #: 39

RE: homade power wire - 7/3/2007 3:23:04 PM    virused   Official Player Hater Posts: 1883 Joined: 2/12/2006 From: myspace.com/06rc Status: offline These IAT "piggybacks" all work to do the same thing. Depending on the ohm resistor you get, it tricks the computer into thinking the outside temperature is a certain degree, in most cases colder than the actual temp. The reason for this is simple. When your vehicle's computer thinks it is 32 degrees (in most cases) or colder it will continuosly run in "warm-up" mode. Your timing is advanced and more fuel is added to compensate for the timing. Do you get more HP? Sometimes, and when you do it is a very subtle amount. This mod will however, lead to carbon deposits showing earlier and plugs fouling out prematurely. Think of it this way, you are basicly turning on a choke for multi port fuel injected vehicles. (Not exactly a choke, but the basics are the same) So what it comes down to is the shortened life-span (how shortened depends on every vehicle application) of regularly replaced parts worth a couple of HP? When you answer that question, then you will have the answer to whether or not you want to do this mod. Please don't think I am trying to burst anyone's bubble here when I say this, I just wanted to clear a couple of things up. Furthermore, using a higher octane would most likely do absolutely nothing for performance. The whole purpose of using a higher octane is for motors that use a higher compression. (Higher octane fuels ignite, without spark, at a higher psi then lower octane fuels) I wouldn't be surprised to hear pinging using a high octane fuel with this mod. Side not: Always use the fuel that your car manufacturer recommends. If you car produced more power and got better fuel economy on a higher octane fuel, don't you think they would tell you that?!? _____________________________ Chris MODerator 99 Dodge Dakota, 56 Ford F100, 06 Honda RC51 (in reply to pro4x4) Post #: 40

RE: homade power wire - 7/3/2007 3:54:08 PM    pro4x4 Posts: 393 Joined: 4/13/2007 Status: offline Good points I talked to a car nut at work and when I told him about this mod he laughed at me and said he didn't think it was worth it. I like to get a lot of opinions on different mods and then based on the information I gather come to my own conclusions. And so far I feel this mod ain't worth it. _____________________________ pro4x405dak www.cardomain.com/ride/2576627 www.metalheadguitarworks.com (in reply to virused) Post #: 41

RE: homade power wire - 7/3/2007 4:17:36 PM    turbot_bird Posts: 1902 Joined: 12/15/2005 From: Winter Garden, Fl Status: offline we are uping the timing so the higher octane does help against pinging. why do you think all the manufaturers of all the programmers suggest a higher octain fuel? to reduce pinging. its not only for higher compression vehicles. _____________________________ AMSOIL Dealer www.Notnormalmotorsports.com www.NotNormalPhotography.PhotoReflect.com (in reply to pro4x4) Post #: 42

RE: homade power wire - 7/3/2007 4:19:53 PM    turbot_bird Posts: 1902 Joined: 12/15/2005 From: Winter Garden, Fl Status: offline also, about the fouling of the plugs, if that is so do the jet chips require the same increased plug changes? because im pretty sure they up fuel and timing _____________________________ AMSOIL Dealer www.Notnormalmotorsports.com www.NotNormalPhotography.PhotoReflect.com (in reply to turbot_bird) Post #: 43

RE: homade power wire - 7/3/2007 6:15:50 PM    shortbushemi   Posts: 8 Joined: 7/3/2007 Status: offline if you advance timing you will need a higher octane because of its slower burn rate.. you don't want it to predetonate (ping) because a lower octane has a faster burn rate by advancing timing and using a low octane fuel, the mixture will burn too fast before the cylinder reaches TDC because you advanced the timing, started to burn the mixture sooner than normal. so by switching to a higher octane fuel you slow the burn rate down, allowing the mixture to complete its burn through the cycle. so to whoever said you don't need a higher octane fuel for advancing timing, you're an idiot. if you advance it more than what stock calibration calls for you need a higher octane fuel. otherwise the computer will just retard the timing until the spark knock is gone. thus defeating the purpose of advancing the timing < Message edited by shortbushemi -- 7/3/2007 6:19:15 PM > _____________________________ Zack 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 (in reply to turbot_bird) Post #: 44

RE: homade power wire - 7/3/2007 6:40:10 PM    shortbushemi   Posts: 8 Joined: 7/3/2007 Status: offline also. no it doesn't keep the truck in 'warm up' mode. if you had any idea on how the computer calculates how much fuel to dump into the engine you'd know this. but the computer takes ECT temp into consideration as well. so regardless if its 9,000ºF outside or -9000ºF outside, as long as the ECT reads ~190º truck is no longer in 'warm up' mode. and stops dumping a load of fuel into the combustion chambers to WARM UP THE CATS. otherwise running rich makes the engine run COOLER, running lean makes it run HOTTER. your engine would warm up much faster if it didn't have to warm up the cats first. now this sensor what it does it tells the computer how dense the air coming into the engine is . now depending on how cold it is, depends on how much fuel it delivers. colder air is usually denser. so it dumps more fuel. The IAT sensor provides an input voltage to the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) indicating the density of the air entering the intake manifold based upon intake manifold temperature. At key-on, a 5–volt power circuit is supplied to the sensor from the PCM. The sensor is grounded at the PCM through a low-noise, sensor-return circuit. The PCM uses this input to calculate the following: Injector pulse-width Adjustment of spark timing (to help prevent spark knock with high intake manifold air-charge temperatures) The resistance values of the IAT sensor is the same as for the Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor School DISMISSED _____________________________ Zack 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 (in reply to virused) Post #: 45

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