View Full Version : Electric fan is on and working!!!
Frenchy 06-19-2007, 12:19 AM Wahoo, all I gotta say is, wow, this thing FLOWS!!!
The low setting is pushing out 2500cfpm and the high, which I still haven't hooked up the switch to yet, flows 5000+.
It's audible on the high setting, and hardly audible on low...
I'll have install pics, as well as a write up, hopefully tonight...
Hopefully... oh, and my grill center is painted too!!!
Dak_in_Black 06-19-2007, 12:21 AM Great!!
Can't wait to see the write up and the pics
Frenchy 06-19-2007, 12:43 AM Now, all you have to know, is this not done with any temperature probes or anything, just hardwired through relays and what have you...
So this will be different than, like a Flex-a-Lite fan with their wiring setup...
I'm uploading my pics now...
Frenchy 06-19-2007, 01:00 AM :-)
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jonnymagnum 06-19-2007, 01:02 AM looks good
Frenchy 06-19-2007, 01:15 AM 20 bucks man... plus 6 dollars for the relays from Jimbo...
ericemery 06-19-2007, 01:25 AM what relays did you need? BOSCH SPDT??? (5 pin)
Frenchy 06-19-2007, 01:42 AM the relays are 30A SPDT (Single Pole, Double Throw) Relays
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/rtkota5point9/Fancircuit.jpg
jimboscomp 06-19-2007, 01:50 AM yeah....you see i buy things in bulk so i had like 10 relays and harnesses laying around lol...looks good and since it's quiet, that's nice too!
JAB02LHS 06-19-2007, 01:50 AM Ok guys, help out an old fart. What is the benefit of this electric fan over the stock fan?
jimboscomp 06-19-2007, 01:51 AM from what Frenchy said it's a power upgrade, frees up some horses by not relying on the engine to turn the fan...wha ti got out of frenchy's description
Frenchy 06-19-2007, 01:54 AM Yes.. there is a clutch fan, that is ALWAYS running when the engine is spinning, and this causes extra power loss, as the engine is working harder to turn something... with this fan, the engine no longer turns the clutch fan, and frees up somewhere around 5-15 hp....
And helps with mpgs! :D
Jimbo, PM me your address, so I can send you that money!
curtiplas 06-19-2007, 09:50 AM Wait so the Electric fan replaces the Clutch fan?
ericemery 06-19-2007, 01:02 PM yeah, you take out the stock fan and replace it with this one... I have heard gains are from 3-10 HP depending on your setup... but I see how you could pull 15... after cams and everything else... ;-)
DakotaStone 06-19-2007, 05:57 PM Hey Frenchy, post the info on it in the MOD TALK thread with instructions and parts needed and some pics. This post will disappear after a few day.
Good job. What type of vehicle was that off of?
Frenchy 06-19-2007, 06:20 PM 1993 Lincoln Continental with a 3.8L engine
:-)
pro4x4 06-19-2007, 09:42 PM Glad to see you got it running frenchy. I know when I put my fan in I really noticed a power gain especially when stomping on it when the traffic light turns green.
turbot_bird 06-20-2007, 02:04 AM I want to get one for my truck, but got to get one for the bird first lol
Frenchy 06-20-2007, 02:20 AM Dude, just pick up two of them from a salvage yard, 93 Continental 3.8L....
Shouldn't cost much at all!!!
turbot_bird 06-20-2007, 02:26 AM ya, ill have to check the yards lol
Frenchy 06-20-2007, 02:28 AM Just make sure to clean them REALLY well!
When I turned mine on for the first time, a bunch of dust I missed came flying out... then I turned on the high switch, holy shmokes, if it wasn't clean after that, it's never gonna get clean!
turbot_bird 06-20-2007, 02:46 AM lol, ya Ill have to look. how did you find that one?
Frenchy 06-20-2007, 02:55 AM rtkota5point9
Or whoever.... it definitely keeps the engine cool....
And the A/C... sooooooooo freaking cold!!!
turbot_bird 06-20-2007, 03:00 AM cool, its funny what you can find in the junk yard
Frenchy 06-20-2007, 03:15 AM Tell me about it, my friend's brother works at a huuuuuuuuge junkyard, pieced together a 500rwhp mustang... for 500 dollars...
Works and looks perfect.....
turbot_bird 06-20-2007, 03:24 AM most the parts on my bird are like that. cam is from a ranger, radiator-92 explorer, turbo-ram cummins, intercooler-volvo 240
Frenchy 06-20-2007, 03:26 AM How big is the trbo from the cummins?
Cuz like Eric posted, I may try and get some parts together myself... and seehow mch it'll cost me..
turbot_bird 06-20-2007, 03:30 AM its pretty good size, dorfs my t3
Frenchy 06-20-2007, 03:34 AM You mean dwarfs..
Haha... I was thinking, is that a brand?!
what the heck!?
I'm gonna go check this out soon...
What else will I need Jamey???
ericemery 06-20-2007, 03:37 AM I went with the T3 as I am only looking for low boost... but with what frenchy plans to do internally he can look at more boost... I only want 4-5 PSI I will see what it costs for mine, but I am also looking on ebay, not a junkyard. you can probably find a decent turbo and FMIC in a yard for super cheap.
turbot_bird 06-20-2007, 03:40 AM ill be running 30psi in the bird. do you want to do remote mount or standard manifold mount?
ya, sometimes im spelling challenged
Frenchy 06-20-2007, 03:48 AM Mani mount... for sure..
Remote mount and me, don't get along.
turbot_bird 06-20-2007, 03:58 AM ok, so you could flip the manifolds so they are facing forward, make a tube that goes from the drivers side one to the passenger side one, then put a t3 flange on there where they meet. mount the turbo to it. make some oil lines for it. one pressure one that comes from the block (probably could put in a t fitting where the oil pressure sensor is) then drill a hole in the oil pan for the return line. make a downpipe and hook it to the exaust, then mount an intercooler and make all the lines, then with bigger injectors and a custom tune it should run. you could also use an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, bigger fuel pump, blow off valve helps it from stalling the compressor when you let off to shift, and I would recomend using header wrap or ceramic coat the manifolds, and downpipe and maybe get a wrap for the turbo to cut underhood temp
fbnzippy 06-21-2007, 03:49 AM Got any more pics of how you mounted the fan to the Rad?
Frenchy 06-21-2007, 03:55 AM Uhmm, all I did was go to Napa... buy radiator ties... drilled 4 little holes in the fan shroud.... poked the radiator ties through the radiators and attached the end caps on the other side...
Doesn't move at all...
I'll get pics up tomorrow.. or something...
I'm behind on my write-up as well..
Sorry.
HankL 06-21-2007, 10:22 AM If you all have or can borrow the meters
it would be good to post some amp draws
on these junkyard fans
on high and low settings.
In past posts
Audi electric fans have also been mentioned
as good fits to the Dodge radiator sizes on Rams and Dakotas.
For measuring cfm
a $64 new wind meter like this:
http://www.kestrelmeters.com/assets/product_images/200/100919000000000.jpg
or an used $50 ebay underground mine anenometer like this:
http://www.dodgetrucks.org/gallery/data/515/anenometerSC318-1.jpg
can be moved across the radiator face
and an average air speed found,
then converted to feet per minute
then mulitiplied by the square feet of the grille opening.
All those CFM ratings you read in the electric fan advertisements
are for the electric fan out in free air by itself
and are way off for a real fan's airflow
pulling through a radiator and grille's resistance.
ericemery 06-21-2007, 01:17 PM my question is this... when teh black magic advertises 3500Cfm is that open air or mounted? same with the junkyard fan...
DakotaStone 06-21-2007, 03:10 PM I looked into an electric fan from a well known junk yard in Spokane and they wanted 93.00 for it... used... 1993...
I don't think so. I think I'll look around for one first. I was thinking though, any fan would just about fit our trucks if it's in the high 3.8+L to 5.0+L. I'm going to start checking around, then if I don't find one that fits, I guess I'll make some money off of ebay....:D.
ericemery 06-21-2007, 04:18 PM haha... heres a cheep-ish one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUSTANG-TAURUS-LINCOLN-ELECTRIC-FAN-4500CFM_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33600QQihZ004QQ itemZ140129709158QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
DakotaStone 06-21-2007, 06:10 PM I'll have to look at it after I'm off work. I can't look at Ebay. It won't allow me to.
ericemery 06-22-2007, 12:19 AM sooooo... frenchy hows the write up going?
Altair 06-22-2007, 02:00 AM ORIGINAL: DakotaStone
I'll have to look at it after I'm off work. I can't look at Ebay. It won't allow me to.
Most systems that companies use to block that rely on blacklists and the website address. Try accessing ebay through this next time you're at work: http://www.guardster.com/subscription/proxy_free.php
turbot_bird 06-22-2007, 02:04 AM well, went to one junkyard today.........nothing.
Frenchy 06-22-2007, 02:50 AM Ya.... write up...
....about that...
Cuban11182 06-23-2007, 01:48 PM So is the electric fan constantly on low. Looks that way in the electrical diagram.
curtiplas 07-01-2007, 02:42 PM OOOO god you guys give me way too many bad ideas... :-P... I'm gonna go broke...well broker... I'm already Broke...
DakotaStone 07-09-2007, 05:14 PM ORIGINAL: Altair
ORIGINAL: DakotaStone
I'll have to look at it after I'm off work. I can't look at Ebay. It won't allow me to.
Most systems that companies use to block that rely on blacklists and the website address. Try accessing ebay through this next time you're at work: http://www.guardster.com/subscription/proxy_free.php
It was blocked. Thanks though.
Frenchy Bikini... Can you go back to the junkyard for me and see if there's any more fans left? I'm not having any luck here. If there is a fan there, let me know and I'll pay you for it.
Frenchy 07-09-2007, 06:10 PM I can about guarantee there would be a fan out there...
:-)
Just it's like 12 miles out there, I'll get ya one though, when I go to my cousins house next...
It's gonna cost ya though!!!
I'll even get er all clean and shiny for ya, Todd!
DakotaStone 07-09-2007, 06:36 PM You don't have to go through all of that, but thanks.
Frenchy 07-09-2007, 08:03 PM Took me all of half hour to do it.... trust me, I'd rather sent you a clean one, than one that is covered in dirt/road grime..
curtiplas 07-09-2007, 10:47 PM oh ofcourse...it'll cost a couple cents less in shipping LOL... if you find a 3rd one let me know... although I haven't checked round here yet... and I'll prolly need ur help installing it anyway...
DakotaStone 07-10-2007, 12:17 PM I checked with a big junkyard in Spokane (WA) for a fan a few weeks ago and they wanted $93.00. No thanks, I'll buy a new one if that's the case.
Frenchy 07-10-2007, 11:15 PM Dude, if I can get one for ya, how would 30 bucks plus shipping be?
I gotta make SOME money off this deal, considering it is about 15 miles there and back....
DakotaStone 07-11-2007, 04:38 PM I'll work with you on it. That sounds about fair, and it's a lot cheaper than the $93.00 that I was quoted.
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