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would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon?

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would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon?


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would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/27/2007 11:16:58 AM   
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what do you think?
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/27/2007 11:46:05 AM   
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yevgenievich's photo gallery 		defenetely, specially if you take r/t turbo lol
even base stealth model should beat the top neon model.

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/27/2007 6:46:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Without a doubt any Stealth model will beat any Neon but the SRT4. V4's are the most unblanaced engine, and defiently the least powerful. In my sisters neon the tires wont even squeel unless your going around a turn goin like 30mph.

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/27/2007 10:49:00 PM   
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yevgenievich's photo gallery 		i think the most powerful first gen neon have 150 hp, but in 2005 is when they came out with srt4 which had somewhere around 210-220 hp

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/28/2007 12:11:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		lol the srt4's do like 12seconds at a track, they will beat a VR4 or RT TT.

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/28/2007 8:07:07 AM   
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Status: online 		The SRT-4's fastest stock times is 13.9-14.1 so 12 seconds is a bit of a leap

Stock times for a 3000GT VR4 is 14 seconds flat.....so do not say that an SRT-4 would beat one.....considering it has AWD and it's also turbo'd.....the VR4 or Stealth RT/TT are more then capable of holding their own against the SRT-4, not to mention are worth more and more desired.

As for the original question...

A stock Dodge Stealth or 3000GT 3.0L V6 would beat any generation Neon in the 1/4 mile, excluding the SRT-4 of course.

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/28/2007 3:28:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		now with that being said, do you think a dodge shadow 3.0 v6 would beat a neon?

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/28/2007 3:35:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: godzraaa

now with that being said, do you think a dodge shadow 3.0 v6 would beat a neon?


I would say chances are it would be a closer race, and depending on if it was an auto V6 vs. a 4cyl manual.....it might be a driver's race

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/28/2007 4:08:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		A first gen neon is a sohc engine. The shadow would easily beat it. I have a 3.0 iroc daytona...punched next to a 24v stealth and it was a pretty even race.  My 3.0 isnt stock but thats besides the point.  Is the stealth a sohc engine? Either way the stealth should win.  Oh and i just got back from gateway...most srt4s with mods are running high 13s...so a stock one even though they say can run 13.9 is more likely to be a 14 sec car...unless you drive GOOD. 

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/28/2007 4:58:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: irocelectric93

A first gen neon is a sohc engine. The shadow would easily beat it. I have a 3.0 iroc daytona...punched next to a 24v stealth and it was a pretty even race.  My 3.0 isnt stock but thats besides the point.  Is the stealth a sohc engine? Either way the stealth should win.  Oh and i just got back from gateway...most srt4s with mods are running high 13s...so a stock one even though they say can run 13.9 is more likely to be a 14 sec car...unless you drive GOOD. 


Stealths like their 3000gt siblings had 3 engine offerings.
160hp SOHC
220hp DOHC
320hp DOHC-TT

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/28/2007 9:06:17 PM   
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yevgenievich's photo gallery 		just wanted to add that 1994-1996 TT models have 320 hp and first gen should have 300 hp
EDIT: btw, did anybody notice that the most meaningless post is geting the most replyes?

< Message edited by yevgenievich -- 3/28/2007 9:08:13 PM >

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/28/2007 10:16:25 PM   
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thestealth's photo gallery 		Yes, he's right, the 1st gens are only rated at 300 hp.

http://www.stealth316.com/2-freeboost.htm <-----for the free boost mod.  That little nipple that can be easily removed is the only difference in regards to HP between the 1st and 2nd gens.

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/29/2007 12:11:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dohc stealths are "Factory" rated at 224. Thats nonsense...they are more like a 170-180 horse engine to the wheels.  The tt models are faster (obviously) but in order to pull a 14 flat....if they were 300 or better to the wheels they would be in the 13s easy in my opinion.  Im not taking away from them they are awesome engines ...the Dohc heads flow amazingly but the simple fact of the matter is....they are overrated horse wise from the factory. There was a guy on 3si who had a 3000gt who bought a brand new dohc engine. No miles bone stock dropped it in with the only mod being the test pipe...dynoed 180whp and i forget the torque. So with that in mind the 220 horse would have to be crank horse...but most people think thats what they are getting to the ground which isnt the case.

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/29/2007 12:21:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		ive seen srt4's beat the vr4s, their quiet a bit lighter compared to the vr4's awd or not them bein that heavy slows them down compared to the srt4.

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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 3/29/2007 1:43:04 AM   
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Dohc stealths are "Factory" rated at 224. Thats nonsense...they are more like a 170-180 horse engine to the wheels.  The tt models are faster (obviously) but in order to pull a 14 flat....if they were 300 or better to the wheels they would be in the 13s easy in my opinion.  Im not taking away from them they are awesome engines ...the Dohc heads flow amazingly but the simple fact of the matter is....they are overrated horse wise from the factory. There was a guy on 3si who had a 3000gt who bought a brand new dohc engine. No miles bone stock dropped it in with the only mod being the test pipe...dynoed 180whp and i forget the torque. So with that in mind the 220 horse would have to be crank horse...but most people think thats what they are getting to the ground which isnt the case.


In almost every instance, we're talking HP to the crank, not the wheels.....in fact, unless its actually stated that the HP rating is to the wheels...you should always assume its to the crank. Drivetrain loss accounts for between 15-25% loss in HP.

180whp is about right for a 224chp motor...

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ORIGINAL: EvilZombieZ

ive seen srt4's beat the vr4s, their quiet a bit lighter compared to the vr4's awd or not them bein that heavy slows them down compared to the srt4.


I've also seen LS1 Camaros crush a SRT-4.....it's a drivers race.....and thats all it is..... I dont care how heavy/light a car is......both are basically a 14 flat second car, and it comes down to who launches and hit the gears right the fastest.....

And if a 7000lbs truck can do a 1/4 mile in 14 seconds, its still every bit as fast as that SRT-4 Neon.....so the weight issue is a nonfactor at that point...

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