RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon?
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 11:57:32 AM
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yevgenievich
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going stock against stock, top model first gen neon have a shot at base model stealth, but have no chance against es, rt or rt/tt
if looking at 3000gt, they didn't put SOHC engines in their base cars until 1996 or 1998.
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 12:03:40 PM
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the SOHC has 164hp with 185tq, no way a 1st gen neon would beat them, I raced my sisters 2nd gen neon and she didnt stand a chance. the neon is just not a power car at all unless you get the srt4.
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 12:13:58 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: yevgenievich
stock phase 3 camaros could run 11 seconds stock in 1969
so hopefully 2002 camaros should run 11 seconds with reworked computer.
what is a reworked computer?! 
it doesnt take much work to put an 02 into the 11s..but they just Wont do it stock.
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 12:54:32 PM
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spudsterier
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no way a 1st gen neon would beat them, I raced my sisters 2nd gen neon and she didnt stand a chance. the neon is just not a power car at all unless you get the srt4.
if you wanna get technical then the srt4 isnt a neon anyways.....so.....
you said a 2nd gen wouldnt beat them...but you raced a 2nd gen?????
a 2nd gen isnt a 1st gen......some 1st gens are faster then 2nd gens........and i bet your sisters car is probally an auto
it seems to me that the r/t TT's power rating is a little odd.......6cyl. TT only gets 300 hp......but you can get a 4cyl. single turbo, say an sti, that has 300 hp????
seems lite the stealth TT has a big motor, but not as much power as i would of figured it would
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 12:59:48 PM
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300 in 91...what else had that much power 16 years ago. Don't forget, Stealth's have been out of production for 11 years.
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 2:17:33 PM
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Mustang and Camaro N/A 5.0 L V-8's in 1991 were lucky to break the 250 HP barrier according to Edmunds.com and they have 2 more liters or about 122 more cubic inches. The Subaru WRX STi has a 2.5 L turbocharged 4 cyl rated at 300 HP which is only proof that bigger turbos produce more power.
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 2:30:34 PM
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the SOHC has 164hp with 185tq, no way a 1st gen neon would beat them and the stealth weighs 600 pounds more than a neon so i would say it has a good chance and the dohc 222hp one weighs 1000 pounds more
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 2:52:51 PM
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thestealth
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The 1st gen Neons only weighed 2400lbs...wow, I never knew they were that light...
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 3:35:55 PM
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the strongest mustang in 91 was 225hp.
the strongest camaro in 91 was 245hp.
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 4:40:04 PM
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Let me get this out of the way.....stealth tts are fast.....so if you think that they arent that impressive shut up. YOU CANT compare a new age STI with a stealth that was made in 91.....you just cant do it. Lightly mod a stealth and see who wins...plus like we said they have been out of production for 11 years...so let it go. Second that neon will not beat that stealth...no way even if its a dohc 2.0 neon it most likely will lose. Keep in mind that the v6 has more low end torque...torque wins races people. Has anyone said if the neon is a sohc or dohc? Either way the stealth is going to win....especially if its a sohc. With the dohc id say it would be close but if the stealth launches good then it will be fine.
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 5:07:01 PM
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wow there sure are alot of touchy people on this post......here is the thing
1: did i ever say the stealth TT int fast.......no
2: i never compared an sti with a 91 stealth.....i just said that it seems that with a v6 and twin turbos that it should have more then 300 hp....and that an sti is then impressive since its only a 4cyl. with a single turbo but the same power....just seems that the stealth should have more power wit hthat motor
3: am i supposed to let sumthing go???? ive made 2 posts on here and none of them were dissing the stealth....
no wonder i dont leave the neon section too often
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 5:16:51 PM
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...but you seem to fail to realize that technology changes and normally improves. For the time period, 300hp was alot. More than 'Vettes and only about 100 away from Vipers of the same era. Even "Exotics" of the time didn't have much more power than Stealths. With some slight, bolt on modifications, close to 400hp (crank) is very doable.
Don't forget...the STi may be a 4 banger, it is only .5L smaller in displacement.
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 5:56:49 PM
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spudsterier
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i dont fail to see it, i know the age differs....but i just was saying that it seemed od....that was all
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 7:46:23 PM
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Second that neon will not beat that stealth...no way even if its a dohc 2.0 neon it most likely will lose. Keep in mind that the v6 has more low end torque...torque wins races people With the dohc id say it would be close but if the stealth launches good then it will be fine.
make up your mind first it will not win no way but it will most likely lose so a dohc neon with 150hp that weighs 2470# vs a 165 stealth that weighs 3086# i think it would be a damm good race and the neon would win
dodge stealths came with sohc in 91 when the car came in to production
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RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon? - 4/3/2007 7:49:40 PM
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yea i would think that a dohc with tt would gain more the 88hp
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