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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 4/2/2007 8:41:19 AM   
Erich_121


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I dont bother with the CAI, i just throw a K@N air flilter on it and call it good.  Not worth the money.

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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 4/2/2007 11:12:53 AM   
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All I have is a K&N air filter.  I think that's all I'm gonna do.  I would like to get rid of the stock resonator box.  That way I'd just have a tube running right into the TB.

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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 4/2/2007 9:09:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jalapeenoz

OK, I know I am going to be in the minority here, but based on the various setups I have tried on my D as well as previously on my Ram I am now convinced that the stock set up (at least on the 4.7) with a good flowing filter is the best way to go.  It draws air in from a cold source and flows plenty of air to feed the engine.  My Fastman actually works better now with the stock intake back on rather than with an Air Raid type set up (which is similar to the True Flow intake system that so many people are buying now).  The K and N type intakes and the cheapy Ebay ones draw in more warm air than the stock set up and are prone to heat soak.  I know there will be plenty of you who will swear up and down that your aftermarket "CAI" made a dramatic improvement, but I am saying that based on my own experience that the stock set up works just fine for normally aspirated/mildly modified engines. I have discussed this with a couple of mechanics (with a combined 50 plus years of experience) and they have told me basically the same thing.  I believe there are some tests out there showing little to no gain from aftermarket CAI's compared to the stock intake.  Just my 2 cents


You got anything to back that up? What is a "K and N" type intake?


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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 4/3/2007 2:51:24 AM   
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I think he means a K&N CAI

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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 4/3/2007 5:30:01 AM   
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Yes I meant K and N CAI ( and similar intakes that have a tube and an open filter hanging over the engine compartment).  As I said this is my own experience that I have had on a couple of different vehicles.  Not only did I not notice an improvement with aftermarket set ups, in some cases I actually felt a decrease in performance.  I believe Hank has some links to some actual dyno tests that prove the same thing.  IMHO you could put the couple hundred bucks toward something else that would give you more significant gains.

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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 4/3/2007 7:18:07 AM   
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its in ur head...

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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 4/3/2007 7:18:56 AM   
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kinda like go fast stickers and loud mufflers...its all in ur head

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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 4/3/2007 11:27:44 AM   
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Try and put it into perspective.  Let's say that a CAI gives you 3 extra HP.  Is it really going to make that much of a difference on a truck that weighs 6000 lbs.  If you do the math  3hp/6000lbs = .0005hp more per pound.  I know that every little bit helps but to actually feel the difference?

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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 4/4/2007 4:36:00 AM   
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You do know that the current FIPK has the filter isolated by a barrier, right? It's not just a short ram filter. Besides, intake, headers, muffler, high flow cat, larger/better throttle body, larger injectors - none of those alone will net you a noticable gain, but they all work together as a system to build off eachother. And yeah, improper design can cause a loss of power - dumping the exhaust right at the headers would be a great example. Chuck it on the dyno and you'll see peak HP gains, but look at the curve and you'll note that it's less efficient at low RPM operation due to the decrease in exhaust gas scavenging.

So yeah, there are other things you could spend your money on that may have greater gains, such as 1.7 roller rockers, but improving any of the components is never a bad idea. Just keep in mind what the improvement is and make sure it makes sense for your application and goals.

quote:

ORIGINAL: jalapeenoz

Yes I meant K and N CAI ( and similar intakes that have a tube and an open filter hanging over the engine compartment).  As I said this is my own experience that I have had on a couple of different vehicles.  Not only did I not notice an improvement with aftermarket set ups, in some cases I actually felt a decrease in performance.  I believe Hank has some links to some actual dyno tests that prove the same thing.  IMHO you could put the couple hundred bucks toward something else that would give you more significant gains.


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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 4/4/2007 7:22:27 AM   
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so what ur saying is change ur exhaust, you cant tell me that the stock air box doesnt have good airflow...or enough...we arnt running diesels here

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