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RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 3:10:23 PM    1....MAVRICK Posts: 30 Joined: 3/5/2007 From: Canada, BC Status: offline Now your talking............an experiment....I love experiments!!!! You know we could sent this one to The Mythbusters......lol   _____________________________ _ 2002 Dakota sport _ BMW 318i sedan _ Custom Yamaha 700 _ Seadoo xp800 _ Articat daytona 1000 [image] (in reply to virused) Post #: 31

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 3:11:45 PM    rtkota5point9 Posts: 892 Joined: 11/13/2006 Status: offline Sounds awesome.  It's 10* = 1HP though.  Not 20.  Too bad there wasnt a way to get the temp sensor INSIDE the intake tube near the TB and take a reading with the heatshield on, then with it off at X mph.  But your test should show some good numbers too. _____________________________ GOT BOOST? Kenne-Bell Supercharged, SCT Tuned 99' R/T (in reply to jonnymagnum) Post #: 32

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 4:08:50 PM    deranged Posts: 1602 Joined: 11/23/2005 Status: offline Sorry I'm late to this debate and I would like to know the results of your experiment virused. I think that the radiant heat in the engine compartment will probably heat up the air around the "cold air" filter even with a heat shield just as much or more as the air coming through the stock air box. I've thought of making a home brew CAI with the filter being located entirely outside the engine compartment but after pretty thoroughly studying it think that it is not worthwhile for a relatively insignificant gain. I'll just be satisfied with the drop in K&N I guess. If I was going to spend a couple hundred for performance gains I'd probably go for a larger throttlebody or performance muffler and not a CAI though. (in reply to rtkota5point9) Post #: 33

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 5:06:23 PM    virused   Official Player Hater Posts: 1883 Joined: 2/12/2006 From: myspace.com/06rc Status: offline Just to clear up the matter of cost, I picked up the whole kit (K&N knock-off filter, 4" piping, enlarged throttle body air hat, heat shield, throttle body spacer with new gaskets and all hardware (free to anyone who wants it), all hardware, couplings and padding for less than $70 shipped. That is less than $20 more than just a drop-in K&N for our trucks. Just my $.02 _____________________________ Chris MODerator 99 Dodge Dakota, 56 Ford F100, 06 Honda RC51 (in reply to deranged) Post #: 34

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 5:22:59 PM    DevilDog17 Posts: 133 Joined: 1/19/2007 From: Lee's Summit, Missouri Status: offline I would love to see this experiments numbers. It would be cool if you could get the temp of the air going into the plenum, but the numbers produced by virused should be a close estimate of the air temperature going into the plenum. _____________________________ 1999 Dakota 4x4 318 Flowmaster 40 Series Crane TBS Summit Racing Cap, Rotor, Wires Accel Supercoil CAI Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you push the wall. -Unknown (in reply to virused) Post #: 35

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 7:15:14 PM    imnothot02 Posts: 2245 Joined: 7/18/2005 Status: offline yes this does sound like a good experiment, Ive always wondered myself! _____________________________ ---Travis--- 2002 Chevy Trailblazer LT 4.2 1996 Subaru SVX LSi AWD 3.3 L Flat 6 (Highway car) 1987 Grand Am 2.5 L Inline(Just keeps going and going...) Can't forget the work van 04 3500 EXPRESS lol (in reply to DevilDog17) Post #: 36

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 8:05:28 PM    User2006 Posts: 1454 Joined: 8/23/2006 From: Justin; Texas Status: offline I just installed a CAI AEM 4" Tubing with heatshield and bigger air hat, the only diffrence to me is the sound of my exhuast, and the sound of the intake sucking in air. As for performace, meh i dont know ill let the dyno take care of that, but i also have a functional ram air hood, at high speeds air rushing through my scoops and blows out right on top of my filter. So i have a bity more air coming through instead of the stock fender crap. Also Virus guess what! lol ill be getting my TB pretty damn soon. Maybe tomorrow nigjht depends on my pay check if not tomorrow night then 2 weeks from today. Then ill take it down and dyno it, and post my results. :) Its been a long time, but ive had some problems with work and bills and shit. I have to get sick with no insuance and end up paying 3k to the doctors. _____________________________ M-1 4BBL Holley Billet 52mm TB Mopar Performance PCM Mopar PPH Headers 1.7 Rockers Mopar Valve Covers AEM CAI Suncoast Ram Air 180 Thermo 3in Single Exhuast MSD Autolite 3923 (in reply to imnothot02) Post #: 37

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 10:13:57 PM    superdak05 Posts: 2638 Joined: 3/12/2006 From: ct. Status: online my dyno run was done on a chasy dyno with 20 degree temps outside. just did two pulls for ha ha. going to get more runs done when it is warmer outside. but as far as cai. i have the k / n fipk on my 05 dak and noticed a difference. much larger in diameter and hardly any restrictions. i also have the heat shield. but you are correct when the truck is sitting at a light and idleing the tube will get hot. no matter what. but a true cai. gets the air from outside . even though my filter sits in frt of the fender opening. it still will draw warm air at traffic lights. the only true way to get engine heat out of the compartment is by fender vents or some type of cowl hood. so unless there is piping from outside the engine compartment it really is not a true cai.or some type of hood that allows cooler air in. like the older chevelles and camaros did. (in reply to User2006) Post #: 38

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 10:19:03 PM    imnothot02 Posts: 2245 Joined: 7/18/2005 Status: offline thank you ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _____________________________ ---Travis--- 2002 Chevy Trailblazer LT 4.2 1996 Subaru SVX LSi AWD 3.3 L Flat 6 (Highway car) 1987 Grand Am 2.5 L Inline(Just keeps going and going...) Can't forget the work van 04 3500 EXPRESS lol (in reply to superdak05) Post #: 39

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 10:22:18 PM    User2006 Posts: 1454 Joined: 8/23/2006 From: Justin; Texas Status: offline Just install a tube that runs on dry ice or an intercoler _____________________________ M-1 4BBL Holley Billet 52mm TB Mopar Performance PCM Mopar PPH Headers 1.7 Rockers Mopar Valve Covers AEM CAI Suncoast Ram Air 180 Thermo 3in Single Exhuast MSD Autolite 3923 (in reply to imnothot02) Post #: 40

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 10:50:57 PM    virused   Official Player Hater Posts: 1883 Joined: 2/12/2006 From: myspace.com/06rc Status: offline Well, I have to go down the home depot this weekend and buy a couple of small, battery operated temp sensors. I enjoy the posts about this subject. I hope people realize that when I started posting in this thread, I wasn't trying to say people are right or wrong. I understand that a true CAI will be drawing outside, ambient air and that's all. However, to do this to our trucks, a new hood and other expensive mods will have to be purchased. My point from the beginning is that similar results (not exact) can be reached with the project I have done. I am eager to see some of the temp readings, as I have covered the intake tube, and sides of the heat shield in header wrap. I will test it at idle (30 minutes) and driving highway (30 minutes). We will see if this mod, as inexpensive as it is, is worth it. User2006, good to see you, it has been a while. I can't wait to see the results. You have a nice truck brewing over there. _____________________________ Chris MODerator 99 Dodge Dakota, 56 Ford F100, 06 Honda RC51 (in reply to User2006) Post #: 41

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 11:19:23 PM    User2006 Posts: 1454 Joined: 8/23/2006 From: Justin; Texas Status: offline Here is the cold air installed _____________________________ M-1 4BBL Holley Billet 52mm TB Mopar Performance PCM Mopar PPH Headers 1.7 Rockers Mopar Valve Covers AEM CAI Suncoast Ram Air 180 Thermo 3in Single Exhuast MSD Autolite 3923 (in reply to virused) Post #: 42

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 11:27:59 PM    DevilDog17 Posts: 133 Joined: 1/19/2007 From: Lee's Summit, Missouri Status: offline Now that is a hot truck. Best of luck virused in this experiment and keep us posted with pics and descriptions. This experiment should put to rest the problems with or myths about Cold Air Intakes. _____________________________ 1999 Dakota 4x4 318 Flowmaster 40 Series Crane TBS Summit Racing Cap, Rotor, Wires Accel Supercoil CAI Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you push the wall. -Unknown (in reply to User2006) Post #: 43

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 11:43:31 PM    1....MAVRICK Posts: 30 Joined: 3/5/2007 From: Canada, BC Status: offline Nice air hat user2006......that looks alot bigger than the stock one.... I wonder if one could use the A/C to somehow cool the air going in.....hhhmmmm. Virused is it possible for you to put a temp. sensor inside the intake pipe without it touching the pipe ??? I think reading the temp. inside the tube would be more acurate.....then u just need to buy one sensor.... What do you think ??? _____________________________ _ 2002 Dakota sport _ BMW 318i sedan _ Custom Yamaha 700 _ Seadoo xp800 _ Articat daytona 1000 [image] (in reply to User2006) Post #: 44

RE: Cold Air Intake my A** - 3/8/2007 11:51:21 PM    User2006 Posts: 1454 Joined: 8/23/2006 From: Justin; Texas Status: offline Its the hat that comes with the AEM Intake kit, you cant use the old one its a 3" opening, this is 4" piping gota have a bigger hat. Also im about to sell it off probably or give it away, after my tb, im going to get the K&N hat, the powerd coated black one with white chrome stripes. but, ya.. My CAI made a diffrence. I was out messing around about 30 min ago, and it feels like a got better throttle response, also before i was running real rich, this seems to have made me run a bit more lean, im about to install some gauges so i can monitor this, i got a A/F, Vaccum, and Fuel Pressure im about to put in. I would say the CAI is more of just a faster flowning item. Stock crap is way to complicated air slows down.. these make it go though faster and more at a time. More air = better performance even if it is still the same temp.. Another test is to take 2 intakes, one aftermarket and one stock, messure the temp on both and see witch ones puts down more hp, then change the temp of the CAI to a bit hotter then the stock one and see what you get.. Meh.. im babbling now.. ill stop. _____________________________ M-1 4BBL Holley Billet 52mm TB Mopar Performance PCM Mopar PPH Headers 1.7 Rockers Mopar Valve Covers AEM CAI Suncoast Ram Air 180 Thermo 3in Single Exhuast MSD Autolite 3923 (in reply to 1....MAVRICK) Post #: 45

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