Which of these trucks are the most ugly one?? [:'(]

Hard to say... I'd put them all equally nasty.

Without a doubt, the "Ugliest" is Nissan Titan :

Ugly and bulky badging on back of truck. Too boxy in back and terribly ugly front grill. It is SO ugly, that that's what gets it noticed.

Around here in Southern California, we hate these wannabe Titans....and if we could start from the inside out, these are the poorest built trucks on the market, not just a statement by me, but a proven fact of truck breakdown videos when we look at quality ( I work at a dealer )....Titan is a mighty piece of crap.

Come on people are you forgettin the tundra face???

Take a closer look!!

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The Titan is beyond ugly. Even the "regular" Nissan p/u scares me....[:'(]

I think they are all pretty darn ugly, but the titan is definitely the ugliest in the REARVIEW MIRROR. That view is probably being obscured to some degree by the amount of dust my Ram is throwing on it.

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I know I'll piss off the lot of ya, but I'm thinking about getting the Titan. AAfter owning Dodge for 6 years and having nothing but problems, I've read the trailer mags, talked to others that have bought them, and I must say that for towing the Titan is head and shoulders above my 1500, the F150 and the Silverado. And guys, come on, be honest, when Dodge changed it's styling back in the mid-90s who didn't think it was God-awful fugly? Yet it grew on us. We came to even love that big, in you face grill, and people respected it. But now? Now they've fattened the Dodge's hood and grill as if they put a pig on steroids and cut off it's nose. The Durango is the worst, but I wish they would have left the Ram alone.
No folks, I think I'm going with the Titan. As far as it's looks, it's got it's own in yo face look about it, and it hauls and tows like there's no tomorrow, I test drove one. And the fact that Americans are putting it together makes me feel pretty dang good about it, the rest is all BS.....shareholders are everywhere, Asia, America, Europe....I won't let blind loyalty paint me into a corner.
Anyway, just wanted to share my penny, you guys have taught me a lot here, I mostly just read to get tips on tech problems. Good luck to all my Dodge brothers and sisters, remember, we're all drivers of rigs that are made by the CIVILIZED nations, and that means more to me than whether it's a big 3 or a Toyota or Nissan. When was the last time you saw any contribution to mankind from the dust eating, goat herding, terrorists in dirty night shirts?
Sorry, I'll quit while I'm behind.
Keep on truckin!

Nice exit, dude!!

I will concur on the fact that every magazine and truck show out there has raved about the new titan. ... Consumer reports everywhere have come up with the Titan as the best overall rig... Even stating that it beats the Hemi off the line (with the stock 20")

But as far as looks Hemizombie is right... I hated thes dodges in the mid 90's now I am diehard Dodge. I hated the new look Ford but i have leaned towards liking them as well and its only been a few months they have been out.. So the titan will grow on people and yes it is built in the USA by americans.

But for the time being and the foreseeable future i will be driving my Atlantic Blue 1500 Dodge 5.9 mag



PS the new Chevy is the ugliest SOB on the road for my money

Remember... magazines, talk shows......are all sponsored.....and if you don't think Nissan is throwing money in to bias people into saying positive about their trucks....geez... Nissan totally sucks....worst constructed products and guaranteed death if in an accident.....it's what you don't see under the skin that will kill you.

Open up the hood on a Titan. Look at the V8. Notice the water pump in the middle of the engine with the serpentine belt just BARELY touching the top of the pump? This was the poorest design layout of the Titan and when your engine overheats down the road, you will know that this is why and the first item to fail.

Take the skin off a Titan, and notice how the frame is a copy of an Ford F150 design about 5 years ago. You wonder how Titan came into the truck market so quick? Copying.

Where Nissan is making money, is selling the poorly made trucks and not concerned about down the road quality. Everything from the brake rotors, to the point at which the shocks are attached to the frame are either way too small or cheaply built.

Smart buyers buy what is quality. Nissan Titan's are built by Americans looking for jobs, not Americans that are taking pride in what they build. PERIOD.

Because I am deeply involved with the automotive industry, and working both within dealers and outside, I have learned a lot about what happens in the world with manufacturing of trucks.

Go ahead, buy the Titan. I or the other TRUE American truck drivers will tow you when you break down for sure. That's a certainty.

Nice exit, dude!!

No doubt. That one should be bronzed for posterity.

WOW!!!! Mike. WE should bronze this one too. Passion is a wonderful thing when used for the good.

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Uhhh, were only talking about the ugliest truck, dont care if the Titan can haul a Hemi Ram.

I'll back this up. We're talking about looks here, and horrible looks at that, not functionality. If someone starts a poll about what the beefiest truck is, or what the best tow rig is, go for it. The Duramax/Allison combo is a HELL of a good heavy duty combo, but it's in the ugliest sheetmetal on the road. The new Ram is decent looking. I'm not a huge fan, but it's far from ugly. But the front suspension is crap, along with the auto transmissions.

There are a LOT of ugly rides out there. Chrysler Corp. happens to have most of the decent looking vehicles right now. [sm=smiley20.gif]

Man, talk about a guy that A. His truck is an extension of his manhood, and B. doesn't know jack about what he's talking about.
I rode along with my co-worker here who towed his 32 foot travel trailer from Washington down through Idaho, Wyoming and finally UP the Rockies to 12000 feet and the tranny and coolant temps were low and smooth the ENTIRE way. 10 hour days towing, and it purred like it wasn't even working. I'll admit we went 45mph through the last leg of the Rockies climg, but only because we were in our 8th straight hour of towing and besides we weren't trying to set any speed records. So you can EAT your overheating remarks, professor. And as far as it being a true merican truck, who gives a flying nerf bar? It's more American made than most vehicles, and last time I checked, all the manufacturers have shareholders from around the world, so many different nationalities make money off all of them.....or in Chrysler's case, many get bailed out by the government (snicker...how AMERICAN is THAT? Can you say socialism?)
Anyway, I've owned them all and have an open mind, able to make intelligent decisions devoid of emotional, deluded self righteous vitriol. The tranny problems I've had with Dodge for as long as we've owned them, the electrical fiascos with Chevy.......thanks, but I'll go with the best one I've test driven and read about and asked about. Sorry if it puts a bummer in your "red, white and blue" parade, but I never let emotionalism get in the way of a smart buy.
Remeber, the American way is competition. As I've noticed in our society lately, when we are faced with competition, we whine and moan and bad-mouth it instead of making ourselves better. I'm trying to teach my kids that instead of pissing and moaning and counting on the school system to "even the playing fiel" or "get your feelings ouuuuuuut", get out there and make yourself better!
Translation: "shaddup already!

or in Chrysler's case, many get bailed out by the government This statement might actually make some sense if the LOAN hadn't been REPAID. It's not the first time a business has had to find external funding to remain in business.

I can see you don't think much of the domestic brands, which is OK. I certainly hope your experience with another truck turns out better for you. Good luck.

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You obviously don't like Dodge dude, so why get so upset? Sometimes hearing the truth hurts, I realize, and it's only my feeling to express to you what the truth is and what we analyze every day of the week...the Nissan Titan is one piece of cheaply constructed and copied platform.

Finally, for style, I state again that the Titan is the ugliest truck on the road.

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Nissan is by far the most ugly truck I have seen. But the Dodge Durango is right there with it.

I don't know about anyone else, but when Dodge Ram's new style (back in the 90's) came out, I thought it was a good looking truck......never thought anything else about the Ram's style, except Mean!![8D]

Yeah. I've always liked the looks since the semi look started. The thing that gets me the most about the titans looks is the profile of the thing. There's just something so strange about it. Fortunately, I only have to see it for a split second until it gets in the rearview mirror.

Do you people think that it would be fair to add the Ram to the poll, so some others could express if they think that the worst looking truck is the dodge Ram??

Sure why not yawgom, its your poll right? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion right, even if they are wrong!;)
Why is it I seem to always find these american vs. ricer parts of this forum? Hemizombie is entitled to his opinion, even if he is wrong!;) I at first was a little concerned when the titan first came out seeing some of the numbers in the magazines. But then I saw a teardown of one. Scary is an understatement. The tech involved in the titan is second rate at best. Some of the design features are great, but a lot are well, just poor.

Hemizombie from what you wrote your truck should be a 98. Man the ram has come a long way since then. Yes the BR had a lot of front end issues and tranny problems, but neither are still used on the new DR. The 1500 has a five speed auto and the front end is now independent. But your right its your money to spend. If you want more of yesterdays tech buy a titan, if you want something a bit more modern, and safer too buy a ram.

and if you want even more modern go buy a brand new Ram .. i have an '02 ram and feel abit out of date round these parts

I have to say that when they first came out with the new Ram, I hated it, the grill is about the size of a house door and it looked like they ran out of time making the truck and said "forget the grill", but now that they have been around now they have grown on me, I still think they did some thing to the grill from the first year it came out.......but I'll still take a pre-94 anyday.

I was just looking for pics of the rumble bee, and then it appeared this "concept" from chevrolet, if it is their new full size pick up I think they are lost now.

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It remember me the face of Sonny in I, Robot..... [&:]

That thing needs to be shot and put out of it's misery...

It's still not as ugly as the titan.

I am currently looking at purchasing an 05 Tundra, 05 Titan, or 05 Ram 1500. I really can't decide yet. I'm leaning towards the Ram/Titan for the power and more agressive styling.

it was mentioned by a few people that the Titan is cheaply constructed. Could you please elaborate on what these flaws are? I would like to make an informed purchase, and overall reliability and safety are really high on my list! Thanks for your time... Maybe I'll be a fellow Ram enthusiast soon.

best thing you can do is test drive them all potroast. The shotty material stuff relates to the interior I believe. There's a pic of a head on collision between a Hummer H2 and a Ram somewhere on the net, i know I saw it on Fark a while back. Looked like the H2 got the worst of it. Drive the HEMI first, the rest will so unresponsive you might fall asleep, if you do, wake up and go buy the HEMI Ram.

Just about some facts about the body of those trucks, which is a very important factor.....

I've read a test about the torsional properties, it consisted in apply certain amount of force to the bare body of all tthe full size pick ups, and the results were.....

Dodge Ram 1 inch
Ford F-150 0.5 inch
Chevrolet Silverado 2.5 inches
Toyota Tundra 6 inches!!!!

(obviously less torsion is the best)

And besides, Im in love with my Ram Hemi engine, that was one of the most important things that I considered when I was looking for my truck, I've already drove the Nissan Titan and doesnt feel well, I think that was developed for granny drivers. In the Titan you dont sense the Hp they say it have, diferent thing with the ram.

ORIGINAL: mikegonzo

Go ahead, buy the Titan. I or the other TRUE American truck drivers will tow you when you break down for sure. That's a certainty.



I am a Titan owner, and it doesnt bother me one bit that you all think they are ugly as looks is very subjective. Of course you arent going to find to many Ram owners that think their truck is ugly...they bought one! I do take offense that you think that drivers of Titan are less "American or patriotic" than if we bought one from the big 3. Let me inform you something, I was born and raised it the US and am serving it proudly in the USAF for over 12 years and counting. What have YOU done to prove you're a "true" American truck driver (as you put it)?

You put it backwards, we do not think that the Ram is a good looking because we bought it, but we bought it because we liked how it looks, personally I think that is the most intimidating truck in the market, and has the best engine of its class, so... the choice is not difficult. The Titan is an ugly POS, and it seem small side by side with a Ram.

i kno its an ugly conest... but i like the look of the tacomas..

very sweet.

ORIGINAL: yawgom

...we do not think that the Ram is a good looking because we bought it, but we bought it because we liked how it looks...

Even Titan owners would agree with that statement. See best looking truck: http://www.titantalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14891

New Ford F150 owners also base their purchase on looks. Having test driven all the big 3 have to offer and the Tundra, I personally think the Ford F150 has the best interior and the Ram the best looks. The Tundra has the best quality but it was easy to see why the Titan has won out in every magazine shootout. It simply a better truck than the rest.

The Titan is built in America by Americans and has a higher local content than any of the big three, including the Daimler owned Dodge Ram. [:o]

Here we go again.....

Here we go again.....

I don't see a need to go down this road again. I know I'm right.

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ORIGINAL: yawgom

...and has the best engine of its class, so... the choice is not difficult. The Titan is an ugly POS, and it seem small side by side with a Ram.



Who says it has the best engine in its class? Last time I checked busted valve springs doesnt qualify as a good thing. Titan may be ugly, but is the furthest from a POS. I think a good definition of POS would a brand new vehicle that leaves you stranded, kinda like some of those Hemi owners that had that exact thing happen to them (not bashing, just putting things in perspective)!

You other statement about the Titan "seems" small compared to the Ram. Check the numbers there are within 1" in all exterior dimensions.

Lets get down to what they are for, being trucks. The Titan has a greater payload capacity, and MUCH great towing capacity! If you want to argue speed, I really dont care because it is a truck. Though I have a Z28 that would be more than happy to oblige you.

ORIGINAL: mikegonzo

... Smart buyers buy what is quality... Nissan Titan's are built by Americans ...Go ahead, buy the Titan. ...
I wanted the Fastest and Best Looking truck..I bought my Black RAM HEMI.

What can I say. You win. You have the best looking truck.

LOL

I hate when these things happen..

its all opinion and personal preference lol

ORIGINAL: LoNeWuLf

...its all opinion and personal preference lol


Exactly. My son is gonzo over the Ram and I like the looks of the Ram. It is no doubt a classic looking truck. Even the quick poll on TitanTalk has the Ram looks ahead of the Titan. I was set on buying a Ram until I drove the TITAN.

Why then even try to justify the Ram with an "ugly truck" poll? Because looks are more than skin deep and the TITAN has the big 3 running scared. Shoot-out after shoot-out in various magazines have the TITAN winning large. ;)

Competition is good for all of us.

No doubt, I am in no way trying to bag on the Ram, it is a nice truck as is the Ford. But when you say I am less than American for buying a Titan, you bet I am gonna step up and get defensive! Its redneck statements like that that really shows the intelligence of the poster (not to mention lowers the attraction to the forum in general).

Geez, is the server always this slow???????

Why then even try to justify the Ram with a "ugly truck" poll. Because looks are more than skin deep and the TITAN has the big 3 running scared. Shoot-out after shoot-out in various magazines have the TITAN winning large.

Yeah. And why come to DF and try to convince us a titan will outdue my Ram. What's the point? Personally I can't see any reason the big 3 would run anywhere relating to the titan.

You titan owners have some serious insecurities. Recently, not a week has gone by where one of you posers doesn't give this board the internet version of the "ricer fly-by."

Come on. Do you really think your changing anybodys mind about the Ram. Doubtful. Please stay if you have something constructive to add, if not, take your delusional propaganda back to titantalk where it belongs.

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ORIGINAL: mopartodd

Why then even try to justify the Ram with a "ugly truck" poll. Because looks are more than skin deep and the TITAN has the big 3 running scared. Shoot-out after shoot-out in various magazines have the TITAN winning large.

Yeah. And why come to DF and try to convince us a titan will outdue my Ram. What's the point? Personally I can't see any reason the big 3 would run anywhere relating to the titan.

You titan owners have some serious insecurities. Recently, not a week has gone by where one of you posers doesn't give this board the internet version of the "ricer fly-by."

Come on. Do you really think your changing anybodys mind about the Ram. Doubtful. Please stay if you have something constructive to add, if not, take your delusional propaganda back to titantalk where it belongs.

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Why dont you pull out your owners manual and tell me what your max payload capacity is? How about towing capacity? I will do the same, and we can compare the numbers. I could care less about changing peoples minds about the Ram. I prefer to not drive a truck that is so common you see one on every corner. You want to talk fly-bys, I will show your Coronet one in my Z...Ill even give you the jump.;)

All those mods on a big block and that is all it can muster...Gotta love Dodge performance! (Again, only directed to the poster)

I will show your Coronet one in my Z...Ill even give you the jump.

Right. I'm sure your going to prove how fast it is here.

If your really upset, please see my previous post.

Oh. One other thing. Your condition is called "performance deficit disorder."

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All those mods on a big block and that is all it can muster...Gotta love Dodge performance! (Again, only directed to the poster)

You obviously can't read and comprehend well, or just don't know much about cars. Go back and look at it again, read it slowly, and correct yourself.

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ORIGINAL: mopartodd

I will show your Coronet one in my Z...Ill even give you the jump.

Right. I'm sure your going to prove how fast it is here.

If your really upset, please see my previous post.

Oh. One other thing. Your condition is called "performance deficit disorder."

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I stand corrected, that is great power for a 360 ci Dodge... that puts down less modded than my bone stock LS1 did. I am sure it is fast, though probably not as fast as the almighty HEMI Ram!!! But, I digress...

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

...why come to DF and try to convince us a titan will ...
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Why?

1. We have a positive poll "Best Looking Truck" (which the Ram leads)
2. We don't need to use terms like Schnitzer-Mobile to describe Chrysler products. (ricer fly-by)
3. We don't need to rely on false patriotism to buy our loyalty as the Titan is built in America by Americans (American Trucker)
4. We don't have to buy the Hemi engine to have the best engined model (5.6 Endurance is standard across the line)
5. We don't have to pay magazines big-time to pick the TITAN as a winner.

Only someone with serious insecurities would be so concerned about the looks of a competitor and not the substance of the competition.

Yes, this is all delusional propaganda and the big three can keep their heads in the sand repeating "there is no reason to be concerned, there is no reason to be concerned...". ;)

I once wanted to own a Ram but now I don't. You may not want to be concerned but Chrysler should!

4. We don't have to buy the Hemi engine to have the best engined model (5.7 Endurance is standard accross the line)

Dude. Isn't your truck engine a 5.6L Endurance????????? Man I do believe this conversation just came to an end.

5. We don't have to pay magazines big-time to pick the TITAN as a winner.

Propaganda. Let's not rely on magazines as good sources of facts. Those magazines are supported by sponsors, not the 5 bucks you and I pay for them. This is a weak arguement.

2. We don't need to use terms like Schnitzer-Mobile to describe Chrysler products. (ricer fly-by)

Man you got me on that one. [sm=smiley24.gif] Never heard it before. You have any idea what it means?

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

4. We don't have to buy the Hemi engine to have the best engined model (5.7 Endurance is standard across the line)

Dude. Isn't your truck engine a 5.6L Endurance????????? Man I do believe this conversation just came to an end.


Why, is the Hemi standard across the board?

Good catch. Typo. Nice to see you are up on your TITAN facts. :D Any other 'facts' in dispute? I thought not.

No, I agree. You win. You have the best looking truck out there.

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

2. We don't need to use terms like Schnitzer-Mobile to describe Chrysler products. (ricer fly-by)

Man you got me on that one. [sm=smiley24.gif] Never heard it before. You have any idea what it means?


Some would say "Kraut-Wagen". But not me. [>:]

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

5. We don't have to pay magazines big-time to pick the TITAN as a winner.

Propaganda. Let's not rely on magazines as good sources of facts. Those magazines are supported by sponsors, not the 5 bucks you and I pay for them. This is a weak arguement.


Yeah, let's not rely on them for the facts. [:o]

I would agree that the SRT-10 is the best looking truck!

I stand corrected, that is great power for a 360 ci Dodge... that puts down less modded than my bone stock LS1 did. I am sure it is fast, though probably not as fast as the almighty HEMI Ram!!! But, I digress...

It is what it is. Like it said "mild."

Oh yeah, the infinitely powerful ls1 [sm=smiley21.gif]. Seen many of those go down to 40 year old MoPars at the track.

Oh Yeah, that never happens. Right.

Why, is the Hemi standard accross the board?

The Hemi isn't standard. There's a little 3.7L, 4.7L , and the Hemi. A guy I know at work has a titan, so I know a little. Besides, it's not smart to not know your foes.

Oh yeah, if you want to read about the road test go to street/strip section and search for Finally raced a titan.

Guys I gotta go. I thank you for the minimal challenge you have presented. Have a good one.

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

I stand corrected, that is great power for a 360 ci Dodge... that puts down less modded than my bone stock LS1 did. I am sure it is fast, though probably not as fast as the almighty HEMI Ram!!! But, I digress...

It is what it is. Like it said "mild."

Oh yeah, the infinitely powerful ls1 [sm=smiley21.gif]. Seen many of those go down to 40 year old MoPars at the track.

Oh Yeah, that never happens. Right.



Definately not to yours! Maybe my Titan is better competition, that is if you could stand lining up to such an ugly truck. And hey, I will give you a free tow ride home!:D

Speaking of minimal challenge, did you ever look up your payload capacity or towing capacity...thought so.

ORIGINAL: mopartodd
...if you want to read about the road test go to street/strip section and search for Finally raced a titan.



Hey, I found one: http://www.dodgeforum.com/tm.asp?m=13209&mpage=1&key=㎙:D

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

Why, is the Hemi standard across the board?

The Hemi isn't standard. There's a little 3.7L, 4.7L , and the Hemi. A guy I know at work has a titan, so I know a little. Besides, it's not smart to not know your foes.

...

Someone smart would have detected sarcasm :D

Auf wiedersehen, Todd, ein gross Hemi, bitter. ;)

ORIGINAL: TitanIam

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

Why, is the Hemi standard accross the board?

The Hemi isn't standard. There's a little 3.7L, 4.7L , and the Hemi. A guy I know at work has a titan, so I know a little. Besides, it's not smart to not know your foes.

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Someone smart would have detected sarcasm :D

Auf wiedersehen, Todd, ein gross Hemi, bitter. ;)



Too funny:D:D

Now first of all for you titan lovers out there when you are comparing towing and payload are you using just 1500 numbers, or are the 2500 and 3500's allowed to play? A 2500 with a hemi can tow over 11000 pounds. A tad more the the 9000 plus yours can pull eh? We will let you include your 3/4 and 1 ton versions as well, oh wait you don't have them. And for the different engine choices, differant strokes for different folks man. Some people want better fuel economy, some need to tow. Its all a matter of what you need. Not a one size fits all thought process.

Now there is nothing about your patroitism about your truck, but if you think your truck has a higher local content than a dodge you are sadly mistaken. Almost all of your parts are sent in from japan, I do believe the engines are made here, but that is about it.

As I stated in an eariler post, I have seen a titan tore down, the electronics are outstanding. The chassis on the other hand was subpar to say the least. Poor materials, and poor welding. Also to all you titan guys keep a close eye on your serp belts, when that starts to wear they stop making contact with the waterpump. That could smart when your pulling your 9000 pound trailer.

Joe

ORIGINAL: SOMZ28

Definately not to yours! Maybe my Titan is better competition, that is if you could stand lining up to such an ugly truck. And hey, I will give you a free tow ride home!:D


Ok, you say that the Titan have more towing capacity, but, if you put a percentage of how many time you spend towing in your truck what would you say?? 10% or 15%, unless you go loaded to the super market, to the work, to the movies and every other place. Besides, of that percentage, how many times you use the FULL towing capacity, 1 %??

For me my Hemi Ram can get the JOB done 99 % of the times that a Titan can, and the Ram its faster everyday 0-60 Mph in 6.8 sec, dont think that the Titan comes even close.

About the magazines, they always support the new truck, If Dodge in the 2007 (i.e.) get to the market the new Ram, every magazine will forget the Titan and the F-150 (the newer trucks for the mags) and will be publishing the Ram as the best truck.

The other thing, you say that all the line of the Titans have the 5.7 Endurance ([sm=smiley8.gif] 5.6 LOL), but, the cheapest Titan is more expensive than a Hemi Ram, since the Hemi option only cost about 900 bucks, maybe you spent that only in you Rockford Fosgate audio.

Finally, and most important.... Does the Ram owners go to Nissan Forums to talk about their trucks???, I doubt it, and here I feel that everytime I see more Titan owners in a DODGE forum, does that make sense?

Someone smart would have detected sarcasm

Auf wiedersehen, Todd, ein gross Hemi, bitter.

You misspelled across so many times, I figured you were serious.

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Translation, "Nice try, fool."[sm=itsok.gif]

I bought my '97 Ram for working. I've got toolboxes in it, and it's hooked up to a 20 foot trailer about 75% of the time I'm driving it. The other 25% of the time the bed is usually loaded. I got the Dodge cause it's got Dana 60 axles front and rear, the high output 360 motor, New Venture trans and t-case, I've got 33" tires on it @ STOCK height, and it is built for working. I like the looks also, but capability is what I'm after. Hell, the only options on it is heavy duty suspension, plow prep package, tow package, cloth seats, air, and cruise. Nothing else cause I don't freaking need it in a truck, just more crap to go wrong. I've got all my creature comforts in my Monte Carlo daily driver.

I've got my Dodge, I like it and it'll outwork anything from across the pond. I've got my Monte Carlo for daily driving, and I really like that. The Monte will be paid off next month, 6 months early. I'll have the Dodge paid off 1 year early. And the two payments combined are less than the payment on any Titan, new Ram, Ford, or whatever. I've got the best of both worlds, and I've always got a backup vehicle in case there's a problem with one.

For the Titan owners, I don't care what you own. But don't come on here and talk smack about capability. Come down to the farm and work that thing, and you'll find out your limitations in a hurry.

I think this aptly describes a couple people in this thread that keep backing the Titan and bashing the Ram-

http://gallery.kam-net.com/albums/misc/domesticethug.jpg

Like I said, you win. You guys have the prettiest truck out there. Wunderbar!

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

Someone smart would have detected sarcasm

Auf wiedersehen, Todd, ein gross Hemi, bitter.

You misspelled across so many times (twice), I figured you were serious.

ç´*晴らã�—ã�„試ã�¿ã�®titaniam ã€�æ„šã�‹è€…

Translation, "Nice try, fool."[sm=itsok.gif]


Gezundheid, gezundheid :D

(please forgive my typo's, which may be many. Also, Todd, before using the word fool you'd better check out some of your own typo's. You have a weak "arguement" and your typo's "outdue" me! ;) )

Just to set the record straight, I dont think any Titan owner in this thread is putting down the Ram (and yes, a couple of Ram owners have come to the Titan board touting the greatness of the Hemi...big deal). You call it ugly, fine, whatever. However if you want to talk about capabilities about what a truck is used for, then bring it on (and no 2500 and 3500 cant play, just the 1500).

It sounds like you guys are all about 0-60, is that why you bought a crewcab 4x4, because it can beat other vehicles from 0-60. If so, I feel sorry that you paid so much for a vehicle that can be outrun by a Honda Accord. When I try to put things in perspective about whom has the greater payload/towing capacity, no one wants to respond. I for one think they are both great trucks that have pros/cons, but when it comes to being a truck the Titan has the edge.

And Snafu, all Titans come with 33" tires...STOCK!

Lets keep this civil.

You're talking about a WORK truck and it's only available in a 1/2 ton? Please. Just shows the mentality we're dealing with here. I laugh every time I see an idjit pulling a 5th wheel with a 1/2 ton and get the hell away from them as quickly as possible. I bet you get a new truck every 2-3 years. You want long-term durability with constant heavy workload, your ricer ain't gonna hang with the big boys.

But anyway, I digressed again. Damn ricers spinning us away from the original topic! [sm=icon_beat.gif]


Read the subject line again! This is about UGLY TRUCKS, not about the capability of trucks. Titan is FUGLY, Silverado is fugly, F150 is ugly, new Ram is alright. You schmucks dragged us into a capability debate in a thread about appearance. You drive a rejected lunchbox on wheels and are paying through the rear for it. Deal with it. [sm=closed.gif] http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb116.gif

ORIGINAL: Snafu

But anyway, I digressed again. Damn ricers spinning us away from the original topic! [sm=icon_beat.gif]


Read the subject line again! This is about UGLY TRUCKS, not about the capability of trucks. Titan is FUGLY, Silverado is fugly, F150 is ugly, new Ram is alright. You schmucks dragged us into a capability debate in a thread about appearance. You drive a rejected lunchbox on wheels and are paying through the rear for it. Deal with it. [sm=closed.gif] http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb116.gif



You are right, this is about what truck is the ugliest. Wonder where a 8 year old Ram would fall if it were an option. Ricer, huh...REDNECK. I'll let my LS1 show you how ricer I am. If you think paying $30K for a truck is too much, get a better paying job. Monte Carlo huh, isnt that a slow fwd V6...at least your sig block is accurate. What are you, like 13. Does you mom know your not at school??

ORIGINAL: Snafu

You're talking about a WORK truck and it's only available in a 1/2 ton? Please. Just shows the mentality we're dealing with here. I laugh every time I see an idjit pulling a 5th wheel with a 1/2 ton and get the hell away from them as quickly as possible. I bet you get a new truck every 2-3 years. You want long-term durability with constant heavy workload, your ricer ain't gonna hang with the big boys.


So are you saying the 1500 Ram is a BIG boy??

Hmmm Looks like it's gone from the ugly truck topic to just plain ugly here. [sm=dontgetit.gif][&:]

Karen

I apologize to the OP for getting off topic. I think I have made my point. Most of the replies were exactly what I expected from the Ram owners.

ORIGINAL: Snafu

But anyway, I digressed again. Damn ricers spinning us away from the original topic! [sm=icon_beat.gif]


Read the subject line again! This is about UGLY TRUCKS, not about the capability of trucks. Titan is FUGLY, Silverado is fugly, F150 is ugly, new Ram is alright. You schmucks dragged us into a capability debate in a thread about appearance. You drive a rejected lunchbox on wheels and are paying through the rear for it. Deal with it. [sm=closed.gif] http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb116.gif


Yes, read the subject line again. It was only after one member mentioned that he likes the TITAN and is looking at getting one that you "damn ricers" :D turned on him with the usual unpatriotic/ricer b/s that backs up every anti big 3 argument. This from three companies that have huge ties into Japan and Germany anyway.

Deal with the facts and you will see why the TITAN is rated tops. Ranting about magazine bias is laughable as the F150 is as new as the TITAN and the RAM is not that old. I have driven them all and the TITAN is better. Have you driven a TITAN?

I like the Ram a lot, but I like the TITAN more. Based on looks alone I'd buy the RAM.

ORIGINAL: SOMZ28

You are right, this is about what truck is the ugliest. Wonder where a 8 year old Ram would fall if it were an option. Ricer, huh...REDNECK. I'll let my LS1 show you how ricer I am. If you think paying $30K for a truck is too much, get a better paying job. Monte Carlo huh, isnt that a slow fwd V6...at least your sig block is accurate. What are you, like 13. Does you mom know your not at school??



Redneck huh? At least you got one thing right. Throw the '94-'01 ram in the poll, it'll have the same results as the current DR does in that poll. :eek: I didn't spend $30K on an ugly truck. You did, you get to deal with it. Quit taking it out on people who bought real trucks that actually look decent.

And I don't have to explain a damn thing about myself to you. You're really showing your complete lack of any maturity making personal attacks against someone you don't have any clue about. And by the way, you were wrong on all your guesses. :D I put the pic up earlier as a joke. You're just proving it to be completely true in some cases. Once again diverting from the original topic, only this time with childish personal attacks. :eek:

ORIGINAL: SOMZ28

ORIGINAL: Snafu

You're talking about a WORK truck and it's only available in a 1/2 ton? Please. Just shows the mentality we're dealing with here. I laugh every time I see an idjit pulling a 5th wheel with a 1/2 ton and get the hell away from them as quickly as possible. I bet you get a new truck every 2-3 years. You want long-term durability with constant heavy workload, your ricer ain't gonna hang with the big boys.


So are you saying the 1500 Ram is a BIG boy??



Neither said or implied. Any 1/2 ton truck will be horribly overloaded and unreliable when worked as hard as my fleet is.

ORIGINAL: TitanIam

ORIGINAL: Snafu

But anyway, I digressed again. Damn ricers spinning us away from the original topic! [sm=icon_beat.gif]


Read the subject line again! This is about UGLY TRUCKS, not about the capability of trucks. Titan is FUGLY, Silverado is fugly, F150 is ugly, new Ram is alright. You schmucks dragged us into a capability debate in a thread about appearance. You drive a rejected lunchbox on wheels and are paying through the rear for it. Deal with it. [sm=closed.gif] http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb116.gif


Yes, read the subject line again. It was only after one member mentioned that he likes the TITAN and is looking at getting one that you "damn ricers" :D turned on him with the usual unpatriotic/ricer b/s that backs up every anti big 3 argument. This from three companies that have huge ties into Japan and Germany anyway.

Deal with the facts and you will see why the TITAN is rated tops. Ranting about magazine bias is laughable as the F150 is as new as the TITAN and the RAM is not that old. I have driven them all and the TITAN is better. Have you driven a TITAN?

I like the Ram a lot, but I like the TITAN more. Based on looks alone I'd buy the RAM.



I was being sarcastic with the "damn ricers" comment. Biggest problem with forums is it's difficult to judge if someone is serious, sarcastic, etc. I appoligize if it was used in a sense easily misunderstood.

Personally, I don't like ANY truck currently being built by any company. I don't believe magazines until I've done my own personal research. I've found almost every article and ranking to be skewed in some way, shape, or form, and rarely agree with them after my own investigations are done. But again this comes down to preference. I have driven every truck on the market today. I have my likes and dislikes on them all. For the workload I have, a 3/4 ton is absolutely required and almost overloaded. And since I wrench on all my own vehicles, accessablility and replacement part cost is a major factor in my purchasing decisions. But I'm not the average consumer either. And again, this falls into the catagory of subjective preference.

If you like what you have and it fits your needs, good for you. We don't have to agree, but we don't have to be childish about it either. Which you have not been just to clarify.

Gezundheid, gezundheid

(please forgive my typo's, which may be many. Also, Todd, before using the word fool you'd better check out some of your own typo's. You have a weak "arguement" and your typo's "outdue" me! )

< Message edited by TitanIam -- 9/1/2004 11:48:15 AM >

First of all "danke" for the blessing. Then again for correcting the errors.[sm=smiley2.gif]

That's what happens when I'm watching tv and playing on the computer at the same time.

[sm=sigh.gif]

so the titan is rated higher? who cares? i know i dont...and im sure most of the people here dont care either...

i dont even have a hemi ram, but i think theyre nice looking trucks, and seeing as how im a dodge guy, i love the hemi. but i also like the titan..its just not hemi, powerful or not. we dont come to your forums and act like children spouting off about our trucks..so why do you?

ORIGINAL: BadStratRT

so the titan is rated higher? who cares? i know i dont...and im sure most of the people here dont care either...

i dont even have a hemi ram, but i think theyre nice looking trucks, and seeing as how im a dodge guy, i love the hemi. but i also like the titan..its just not hemi, powerful or not. we dont come to your forums and act like children spouting off about our trucks..so why do you?



Uhh, you may not, but your fellow Hemi owners do. I am actually here to learn more about the Magnum R/T, very nice looking and decently performing wagon.

And I don't have to explain a damn thing about myself to you. You're really showing your complete lack of any maturity making personal attacks against someone you don't have any clue about. And by the way, you were wrong on all your guesses. :D I put the pic up earlier as a joke. You're just proving it to be completely true in some cases. Once again diverting from the original topic, only this time with childish personal attacks. :eek:


Oh, my sarcasm didnt come across over the net???:D

Oh, my sarcasm didnt come across over the net???

Only your stupidity and ignorance.[sm=exactly.gif]

Ouch that hurts coming from a Ram owner. You are right I am stupid because I bought an Ugly truck that beats domestics at their own game. I should have just bought a Dodge so all you guys would accept me. Maybe if I was a Mopar guy, I could buy slow cars too and we could all run 15's. [:-]Ill bet you are all Kerry supporters too.

If the hemis are as fast as you say they are, then mopartodd must have got a lemon. His dyno is a little on the low side.

You drive a rejected lunchbox on wheels and are paying through the rear for it. Deal with it. [sm=closed.gif] http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb116.gif


LOL :D, a lunch box with wheels, and also it have a lunch box in the box.

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

...I'd rather strangle someone than shoot them.[sm=guilty.gif]

Anyway. I'm also German.

[sm=icon_cheers.gif]


No wonder you are so "patriotic" about your Daimler RAM ! [:o]

Strangle away... ;)

Since us Titan and Tundra owners are considered "ricers", does that make you Hemi guys "beaners??"

Youre right!! Germans are in it, so FORGET!!! all your patriotism stuff.

Patriotism does NOT exist, from shareholders from all arround the world, to companies producing all over the world, there are no domestic companies anymore, period.

ORIGINAL: SOMZ28

Ouch that hurts coming from a Ram owner. You are right I am stupid because I bought an Ugly truck that beats domestics at their own game. I should have just bought a Dodge so all you guys would accept me. Maybe if I was a Mopar guy, I could buy slow cars too and we could all run 15's. [:-]Ill bet you are all Kerry supporters too.

If the hemis are as fast as you say they are, then mopartodd must have got a lemon. His dyno is a little on the low side.



Man, just give it a rest already. I don't give a rat's [sm=smiley35.gif] what you bought because it ain't my money going up in smoke. You come to a Dodge forum and insult not only Dodge vehicles but also Dodge owners with broad moronic statements. What the hell do you expect? Everyone to agree with your idiotic ramblings? The only thing you and Kerry DON'T seem to have in common is that you only have one dumbass position on a topic.

We know you like the lunchbox, you know we don't. We know you don't like Dodge, I don't really give a crap. Shut the hell up already and quit causing trouble.

Looks like I am just causing trouble with you. Seems like the truth hurts. Funny thing about you is it takes two vehicles to get a comfy ride and to haul stuff, i got both in one.


next...

Dodge is a fine brand, it is just certain Dodge owners that bring down the nameplate.

His dyno is a little on the low side.

That's still more than your titan puts down even with mods. Jealous.

Whatever. You're talking smack about me having a car and a truck, but so do you, so you're basically insulting yourself. :eek: I guarantee you'll blow front ends apart trying to do the work I do. Only reason I bought the Ram I did is cause of the Dana 60 solid front axle. But AGAIN, this thread isn't about capability, it's about looks.

Like I've said over and over, everyone's different. Just cause it doesn't work for you doesn't mean your opinion means squat. In fact, [sm=idontcare.gif]

Dodge is a fine brand, it is just certain Dodge owners that bring down the nameplate.

You obviously have diplomatic status in the nissan titan community. [sm=icon_blah.gif]

You guys crack me up. You can dish it out, but cant take it. You are right mopartodd, I wish I could dyno a modded Titan at 290rwtq, but at stock levels it is already at 320...hmm, how could I lose some power to keep up with you guys

And Snafu, all I said was my Titan is both comfy and can carry a load. The LS1 is for the track. Explain where I insulted myself...and actually I own 3 cars.


Hey guys, this is all in fun...you made fun of me, an I returned the favor. Man you guys act like I attacked your livelyhood or something, calm down. It is just a vehicle...

Fact of the matter is, that they have a severe problem with the Ram. Enough that they have to come in here like a bunch of cowards and try picking a fight. Nothing better to do but show how low-class they are. This is the internet form of terrorism, cowards that hide behind a screen, or in a church full of innocent people. Remember, you came here.

SOMZ28 You are by far the most the most ignorant, dreck consuming individual that has come here from titantalk.

titaniam I seem to think you have some class and not too bad a person, but I suppose being brand loyal is a stretch for someone who has to make reference to my nationality, part of it anyway. Unlike you, I know who my parents were.

Now. You guys are the ones who came here and started slinging the mud. Do you walk into a strangers house for the first time and insult them? You probably do, which proves my point. If you don't like what your seeing, you can leave. It's that simple.

at stock levels it is already at 320

BS is called.

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

...Unlike you, I know who my parents were.

Now. You guys are the ones who came here and started slinging the mud. Do you walk into a strangers house for the first time and insult them? You probably do, which proves my point. If you don't like what your seeing, you can leave. It's that simple.


So this isnt an insult...anyway, I find this forum amusing. I would like to learn more about the Magnum, so I will stay if you dont mind.

Dude, stop taking this so seriously. You really need to chill, remember this is the internet where everyone has a supermodel for a wife, lives in a mansion, and a drives a fast hemi:D

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

at stock levels it is already at 320

BS is called.



And I call BS on your Coronet. No 360 powered car with those mods will put out that low of a hp...tq looks alright though.

AWESOME!
Islamic terrorists are slicing and dicing innocent people all over the globe, so leave it to us yanks to have a bar-room fist-fight over trucks while the scumbags are burning our cities. Come on, folks, they're just TRUCKS, not our johnsons! I'll tell ya what though, now that I got my new towing beast, know what I want next? Ever see Phantasm?


Hemi-cuda

Dont worry guys, I may leave if the server gets any slower. Maybe you guys could pull up your hemi to power the site, mopartodd has some to spare.

And I call BS on your Coronet. No 360 powered car with those mods will put out that small of a hp...tq looks alright though.

Your right. It was an overly rich carb which I'm still dealing with. [sm=exactly.gif]

I all seriousness, mopartodd I think it is great that you have an old musclecar. Most are underappreciated these days. I do hope you keep that beast running strong!! (no sarcasm for a change)

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

...titaniam I seem to think you have some class and not too bad a person, but I suppose being brand loyal is a stretch for someone who has to make reference to my nationality, part of it anyway. Unlike you, I know who my parents were.

..

First off, I apologize if raising your nationality was a low blow. Initially I thought you were American and was making a point about the B/S sprouted when RAM owners proclaim the truck “real American�.

Secondly, the mud slinging was started by RAM owners when HEMIZOMBIE said he actually liked the TITAN.

Lastly, my Dad was a WWII vet who spent three years in P.O.W. Two years in Italy and one year in Germany. After the war all he ever wanted to own was a Mercedes-Benz. He taught me about forgiveness and tolerance. My first car, which he helped me buy, was an Alfa-Romeo Alfasud. Man, I loved that car. I loved my Dad, too.

He taught me quality is all that counts. That is why I traded my Motorola cell-phone for a Nokia and my RCA for a Sony. Brand loyalty is a myth.

Peace...

Well said! I think this thread has taken its course. Who wants to join me and bash the Tundra...jk:D

SOMZ28, about the slow server, maybe your connection is slow, as the lunchbox, I dont have any problem with the server.

Thanks guys. I'm sure at this point you enjoyed this as much as I did. [sm=smiley2.gif]

Scott (? Saw you on Titantalk. Good luck with the Camaro and your goals). I can't beat-up on the Toyota guys, something about picking on the disadvantaged. Oh well.

TitanIam I don't even care to argue the fact over patriotism and parts on my truck. My sticker said 75% from US or North America something. Thank goodness Nissan is bringing some production jobs here. Sorry about your dad, I have every respect for OUR vets and have served myself back in the early 80's.

Guys. I gotta go. See you around here or over on your board. By the way, I'm not register there. I can't see me getting a warm welcome with my screen name.[sm=icon_cheers.gif][sm=icon_rock.gif]

ORIGINAL: yawgom

SOMZ28, about the slow server, maybe your connection is slow, as the lunchbox, I dont have any problem with the server.


I guess you have never experienced a fast truck, er I mean server then.;)


Lunchbox...that is pretty funny. You guys are alright!!

Maybe you have NEVER experienced a fast Truck.

ORIGINAL: SOMZ28

ORIGINAL: yawgom

SOMZ28, about the slow server, maybe your connection is slow, as the lunchbox, I dont have any problem with the server.


I guess you have never experienced a fast server then.

Lunchbox...that is pretty funny. You guys are alright!!


Keep editing you posts, like you take back what you have already said

Yore right, the lunchbox its more funny than ugly, maybe you should put a red nose in the hood, and tell mommy to wrap your lunch and store it in your "magic" box lunch compartment.

I cant believe you all are still bickering..

Take your truck.. pay for it.. and be happy with it.. you bought the damn thing.. screw what anyone else thinks...

Well by now the most ugly truck is the lunchbox Titan, congrats.

And heres your trophy.

local://upfiles/5952/81EEF26FE902440485338F0A452383A4.jpg

That picture is f'n hiiiiiiilarious

Yep, I searched for someone worthy to give the prize.

I think that there was a dude that went to work, there he had a bad day, he returned early to his home, found his wife with other guy, then he went to the bar to get drunk until the next day (after no sleeping) he couldnt walk and see anything, then he got high with a stoner friend to be capable of going to his job and then he designed a truck.

That would explain this............

local://upfiles/5952/733548F3560449F49DF3CDADAA84059B.jpg

local://upfiles/5952/FFE0FE85CABC4C6D934BEC2C70F1AAA8.jpg

I still wonder why the 2500 and 3500 are not allowed to play?;) They are still rams last time I checked.:D

In my book yes they are allowed to play[sm=icon_rtfm.gif]:) The bigger the better:D

Karen

Saying the Nissan Titan is not ugly, is like saying the Yugo is a good deal for the money right after the Pinto.

Found another one I thought was fitting...



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/bigtrkguy/MJ%20Images/969retard.jpg



:D:D:D It's all in good fun!

Dodge Ram and HEMI Owners :

Isn't it so wonderful knowing you have the best styled truck in the business? Also, isn't it nice to have
the best support board here at Dodgeforum.com ? Keep this site what it is intended to be for...all
Dodge vehicles. And under this board, keep it the Dodge Ram. Because it is here where we keep
positive about our passion, rather than wasting time with the bashing of other vehicles.

Now get out and ride :)

Maybe I should put a positive poll, like the best looking truck, but it changes the meaning, every one here would choose the ram, and all the others nothing.
Besides the lunch box deserved it.

yes it did!