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2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/20/2004 8:01:50 PM    ToyMR2   Posts: 6 Joined: 7/20/2004 Status: offline I'd like to first say hi to everyone and say that this is my first post. I have a few questions about the Turbo II engine potential and its availabilty. I currently own an '87 Toyota MR2 and am in the market to do an engine swap. This engine may just be up my ally, at least I think it might. My questions are as follows, general answers are fine: How hard is it to source a 2.2l turbo II engine and drivetrain? What is the parts availability like? How much reliable power can be produced from this engine? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this offered in a front wheel drive car, or is there a front wheel drive trans that will bolt up? How much is one looking at spending to do a rebuild on one of these engines and what is the aftermarket support like? What is the engine code so that I can try to source one from a junkyard or as a crate motor if applicable. Are there any forums discussing performance issues with this engine? I'm basically looking to achieve 180+ whp out of the engine to upgrade my maybe 105 hp i'm currently getting out of my aged 4A-GE Toyota engine. I small reliable turbo engine with great power potential would be great in the back of a 2300LB 2 seater. Just thought that this might be the forum to ask a couple of quick questions. Thanks for the help. Mark Post #: 1

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/20/2004 9:50:40 PM    metalaxeman88   Posts: 148 Joined: 7/16/2004 Status: offline Its a powerful motor, I have somwhere around 247 HP at the engine, so i dont think 180 whp would be an issue, as long as you can find a motor and trans to work with, the parts availability is pretty easy, you can buy rebuilt turbos for the thing all day long if you like. Hope this helps. -mike (in reply to ToyMR2) Post #: 2

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/20/2004 10:55:31 PM    87Indy500 Posts: 269 Joined: 3/16/2004 From: Gettysburg, Pa Status: offline All you'll ever need to know about 2.2/2.5 turbo motors http://www.thedodgegarage.com/ All of the stuff to make power http://www.fwdperformance.com/ Interesting swap you got planned there!!! _____________________________ Troy 87 Dakota 4X4 Indy500 Pace Truck 87 Dakota 2X4 360/727 87 Shelby GLHS #844 87 Shadow ES Turbo 85 GLH Omni Turbo (blue) 86 GLH Omni Turbo (blue too) 74 Dart Sport 360/727/8 3/4 70 Challenger 440/727/8 3/4 68 Dart GTS 340/4-sp (in reply to metalaxeman88) Post #: 3

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/20/2004 11:29:41 PM    ToyMR2   Posts: 6 Joined: 7/20/2004 Status: offline Cool, thanks for the info. This might just be the swap I've been looking for. Any other information out there that I should know? How much power are people getting out of this engine and how much did it put you back?> (in reply to ToyMR2) Post #: 4

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/21/2004 8:58:25 AM    71RoadRunner Posts: 9542 Joined: 7/28/2003 From: United States Status: offline The Turbo II's require the use of the A-555 Getrag manual transaxle or stronger trans. They couldn't use the eariler A-525 manual that was used in the Turbo I's or any of the automatics, they were far to weak to handle the power of the Turbo II. Getting over 180 WHP will be easy out of a Turbo II and being intercooled they are vedry reliable. Here is another link to plenty of Turbo II parts and upgrades good for 500+ horsepower or better: http://www.forwardmotioninc.com _____________________________ 71 Plymouth Roadrunner 440 Auto. Modified 04 Dodge SRT-4 2.4L DOHC Turbo Intercooled 5-spd. Modified (in reply to ToyMR2) Post #: 5

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/21/2004 9:16:11 AM    ToyMR2   Posts: 6 Joined: 7/20/2004 Status: offline How hard would it be to find an A-555 Getrag trans and would it be better to use an A-568 or would there be fitment issues? I'm basically trying to stamp a general price tag on this swap and want to make sure availabilty of parts wouldn't slow me down once I got underway. What sort of torque figures are people getting with their setups? At 200 whp, what sort of torque can this engine produce and at what rpms does the power reside in the engine (what is the powerband generally like with this engine)? (in reply to 71RoadRunner) Post #: 6

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/22/2004 12:12:28 AM    GTCandGTSturbo Posts: 328 Joined: 10/21/2003 From: Livonia, MI Status: offline The torque is king on the 2.2/2.5's. Expect 330 tq. whees if you are making 200 whp. Power is from 2-4000 rpm. A 568 is better than a 555 and would fit the same, the difference being that the 568 also has the superior non-lockout ring shifter. Parts would not be a problem for you. I would put the price of this setup to be max $1500 using a rebuilt engine, turbo, and trans. _____________________________ 92 Lebaron GTC Turbo Shelby Lancer #79 2004 Wrangler Rubicon (in reply to ToyMR2) Post #: 7

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/22/2004 12:19:39 AM    ToyMR2   Posts: 6 Joined: 7/20/2004 Status: offline Thanks for the info. Looks like its time to hit the yards to see what i can find. (in reply to GTCandGTSturbo) Post #: 8

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/29/2004 12:47:17 AM    js87z   Posts: 64 Joined: 5/19/2004 Status: offline have always like the toyota mr2 if i had ever goten one i wanted to take the twin turbo supra motor and put that in the back it would be a very deficult install but when you figur you could have a reliable motor that has 800 whp you can't go wrong. (in reply to ToyMR2) Post #: 9

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/30/2004 4:57:38 AM    ToyMR2   Posts: 6 Joined: 7/20/2004 Status: offline Yeah, that is a dream that everyone has at one point. Only problem is that the supra is a front engine rear drive car. That makes it extremely difficult to drop that in the back of a car that uses a front engine front drive setup, but only in the rear. Even if you could mount it transversly (sp?), finding a trans to fit to it that could handle those power levels would be tricky. The best Toyota upgrade would have to be the 3sgte turbo engine that they put in the second generation mr2s. The only reason I'm not going that route is because the T2 engine from dodge will be cheaper and has more torque than the 3sgte. (in reply to js87z) Post #: 10

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/30/2004 10:46:05 PM    js87z   Posts: 64 Joined: 5/19/2004 Status: offline what i wanted to do was get a trans like out of a honda nsx or a lambogiani. and move the hole fire wall forward. they run a trans kinda like what you would find in an indy car where the motor is not turned, just trans right into the rear end. or just get a trans from a indy car that would be sweet but expiensive. but with that combo not very many would be able to even stay close to you. i see what you mean about the hole budget thing that is always the prolbem the things you could do with unlimited funds (in reply to ToyMR2) Post #: 11

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 7/31/2004 2:36:20 PM    ToyMR2   Posts: 6 Joined: 7/20/2004 Status: offline I don't even think that would be possible but with enough money i guess anything can happen. (in reply to js87z) Post #: 12

RE: 2.2L Turbo II.... General Questions - 8/1/2004 12:20:27 AM    71RoadRunner Posts: 9542 Joined: 7/28/2003 From: United States Status: offline Anything can be done if you've got the money and a cutting torch and a welder. _____________________________ 71 Plymouth Roadrunner 440 Auto. Modified 04 Dodge SRT-4 2.4L DOHC Turbo Intercooled 5-spd. Modified (in reply to ToyMR2) Post #: 13

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