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RE: BS Meter - 9/24/2006 10:02:20 PM
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Nicky B
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So what do you guys think are the problems with the Chargers? I have not heard of to many problems with the cars.
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RE: BS Meter - 9/25/2006 1:17:19 AM
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baldyloxs
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Agreed Ill never buy another DODGE product again
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RE: BS Meter - 9/25/2006 2:02:56 AM
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topbanna3767
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listen everyone calm down im very convinced the cars have a hidden trap door somewhere in either the programming or parts wise.personally i believe the company is hidding 70 hp .my reason for this is simple dcx claims 350 hp but everyone that has actually dynoed the car has had a baseline of around 280.a 70 hp difference example go to jbaexaust.com or any exaust company website youll see the same result.know 70 hp is big.ive seen a cool product which i think may help close the gap its at www.highhorseperformance.com its in the electronics section its 229 or at gsmotorsports.com at 199 and consists of a kit that installs in about a 1/2 hour and at the flip of 2 switchs you let the fan turn or sooner and eliminates torque managment .after your done racing return to normal.i think personelly its done on purpose for legal issues and the last thing dcx wanted was idiots crashing all over the place causing people not to buy the car basiclly a marketing idea ,heck who wans to buy a car that has a reputation of crashing(even though it would be driver error besides lawyers have done a great job of blaming the car these days not drivers)....especially when the car is being looked at by police dept and if to powerful would be counter productive actually.yes fast being bad how can that be.before everyone starts yelling at me listen.lets face some facts most people cops included drive 4 cyl 80 -100 hp cars.now all of a sudden there in a 350 hp car driving around in urban settings now your doing 80 or so and all of a sudden a car pulls out of a parking spot,because there are so many good drivers out there.well now there are a crap load of people going to the hospital.so i think the engineers at dcx decided to give stock cars enough power to make the cars quick and agile but not that over the top hp.lets also face this fact the engineers at dcx know that teh capable drivers will tinker with the cars and get the extra hp out of them and at the same time they would also be the better drivers (and most responsible).because if these cars where put out at there max there would be a market for all these extras exaust superchips etc.........not too mention with all the crashs that would take place the insurance rates would go through the roof,ins execs would foam at the mouth with the premiums they would chargeif they did.heck 1 company told me they wouldnt insure the car because the replacement parts are to expensive.what they where realy saying was that there are no aftermarket companies that make b.s parts to put on them and the only parts available are original .well anyways thats my personel opinion dont shoot me ,but we live in an age of tecnical advancement and lawsuits so buyer beware patience will prevail things will come out to make them faster and better .
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RE: BS Meter - 9/25/2006 10:19:38 AM
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mnboy
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Hey guys,
I'm stuck too, but I have two problems: first, I'm a big car guy, and two, I am a Mopar guy. I drove the Fury & Polara 440s and 383s in the days and had my Plymouth GTX muscle car. I love a big car. I like Mopar.
I can see what you are all saying. I don't quite feel the same. But I feel you are not wrong. Here: For me, I feel the Daytona would have been almost perfect with the 6.1 in it. The looks of the Daytona are much better than the SRT8 body (ie, my suede inserts on my Daytona are black, stitching and radio/shifter covers are Mango to match the car much classier than silver suede with red stitching). I don't love the 5.7 engine, but I like it. The mileage isn't bad and it isn't terrible for performance. With proper ECU tuning, and someone will have it right sometime, the engine would have plenty of moxie. The looks are tough to beat for a four door big car. Even the young kids like it. The girls and women love it. It is a head turner. It's comfortable. I like the amenities.
In the old days my big Fury or Polara would run a 5.6 60' with the 440 auto with posi. It would run a 14 something in the quarter. Heck, my Daytona does that and gets much better milage at 25 MPG, to boot. And it's looks and amenities are much superior. And so is the technology. I don't have to fiddle with points, carbs, or plugs for 100,000 miles, better brakes, better suspension, and more dependable.
When you get out of your rock hard ride Road Runner (my GTX with the Dana 60 and Hurst 4 speed road like a lumber wagon [ had seven leaf springs on one side and nine on the other ]), and bad milage with fuel you can't get anymore so you have to detune the engine, and then worry about it when you go on a trip; and when it is HOT you can't drive it because it doesn't have air (my GTX couldn't be driven above 80 degrees because it would bake you inside the cabin), you'll love your Daytona.
Nothing is perfect. Maybe Dodge pushed the envelope to get us baby boomers to buy. I'm not fully happy either. But I'm much more happy with what I have than what I had, and I haven't regretted it. I just regret winter coming... 
3767, usually Hemi's are not bought for in-town PD units due to it's not a "highway" cruiser. However, with the dual-purpose Hemi, that might change, depending on the department's view. Some will get the six, some the Hemi. Sheriff's would get the Hemi. Highway Patrol the Hemi's. The rest of the car makes a nice patrol package for sure. Basics are basics. Headers, intake, cam -- yep, now I'm faster!
If SC would get their poop in a group and come up with a rip snorting dependable tuning curve for my Daytona maybe that's the answer. But I can already go fast enough for Mike to turn on me and give me his signature  .
Dave, if you trade in your RT I think all the Daytona would give you is more looks. If you have the Road package, I think it's the same isn't it? Or are you jumping ship for the SRT8, or Challenger?
Mike, glad you vented. It would be fun if all of us got together in Vegas for a quick cola drink next June. Hey, Dave can you make it to Vegas next June? We'll all meet at... pick it Mike! (I'm planning on driving back out to see my Dad in CA for Father's Day) -- I use I15 through Vegas -- it would be fun to stop and BS -- without the meter . Anyone else close to Vegas during that time?
MN
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RE: BS Meter - 9/25/2006 10:42:28 AM
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baldyloxs
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thats 350 hp at the crank,and my 1995 V6 montecarlo does a better burnout than the charger does .
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RE: BS Meter - 9/25/2006 1:11:46 PM
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topbanna3767
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dont get me wrong i am in no way bashing the car dodge or anyone else,hech the daytona is the nicest car ive ever owned.untill i get my ferrari .......any ways back to reality ........what i am saying is that if every article ive seen with people indipendently dynoing the car have all gotten around 280 hp so if dodge states 350 and we will assume for the sack of argument ther not lying where are the 70 or so hp.i belive there hidden by the program hal...eventually someone somewhere will figure it out and walla .......350 hp ......time will tell .....i love my car and will never trade it in or sell it or anything like that nor will i get a pustang gaymaro .....mopar all the way.......
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RE: BS Meter - 9/25/2006 1:19:35 PM
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moparmike
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My Daytona is a nice car. In fact, one of the nicest for the money. I have a 440 powered Superbee and I know what crappy gas mileage is. Try 6mpg cruising. I know what a headache that old car is but it's from another time era. Cars have come a long way. I have higher expectations for todays technology. That's why my car is $35,000 instead of $3500 back in 1969. I do enjoy my Daytona with it's great handling, nice power, and comfort. I just can't stand how big buisness gets away with filling are heads with lies. Then we take the bate and spend our hard earned money on a product that doesn't accomplished what we are told. I'm keeping my Dodges, shoot, do you realize how hard it would be to change my name... ie. drivers license, birth certificate, tatoos. Step up Dodge. You have the best product, Now up the stakes and give us what we are paying for.
By the way, the Vegas thing wouldn't work. I'm moving to Reno in November. Come down I-80 and we'll talk. That's what happens when you pull the trigger to save lives. 2 months admin and a transfer.
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RE: BS Meter - 9/25/2006 1:25:37 PM
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2coff
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Wow, I con't belive people don't know the diffrence between rear wheel HP and crank HP. 70 HP is a 20% reduction from the crank to rear wheels thats normal for any car. Accually thats really pretty good for a Auto tranny they ussally loss more.
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RE: BS Meter - 9/25/2006 3:12:56 PM
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74scamp
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I could make Vegas in June - as far as I know now, i.e., nothing to hold me back.
MY problem is DCX and their support - or lack thereof. They build a car and advertise it as a performance vehicle, then try to shut the door on us for warranty work if we have some bolt ons. AND, it would appear, it would be up to us to prove that our CAIs or after market exhaust did NOT cause the failure. That's what gets me. I'll probably keep it - for a while. But I don't think I'll be talking trash with anyone about how "hot" it is. Yes, it drives nice, nice amenities, etc. Can't disagree with that.
dave
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