OK, so first off I jsut wanted to say that I'm new with these forums, so bare with me here xD.
So I see that the 1991 3000GT VR-4 and the Dodge Stealth RT Turbo are the same exact, at least as far as the mechanics go. But from what I've seen from a couple of sites, such as http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html the 3000GT is a bit faster then the Stealth. Is this information really all that accurate at all to begin with? I mean, ya, I know that aerodynamics and a one being a BIT lighter than the other would play a factor, but besides that, they'd be roughly the same. I'm in debate between these two cars, yet am not quite sure which to go with. If one has a bigger advantage over the other, I'd gladly go with that one, but we'll see. Does anyone have any opinions of which have better interior, better driving, lower, or just all around better cars? Or can anyone give me any links that show a comparison between the two, or a site that compares performance between cars in general, like the one I posted above? Thanks so much, and sorry for the many questions. I'm just really looking forward to buying a '91 or older sports car as soon as possible, and I'm only 17 so it HAS to be '91 or older. At '92, the insurance takes a SUDDEN peak and doubles, at least according to what the online quotes say. Thanks
thestealth
09-17-2006, 12:09 AM
The are virtually the same cars. Same interiors and pretty much the same options. The VR4 has "active aero" spoilers on the front and rear, but how well they work is open for debate. Technically, the 95-96 Stealth RT/TT's are the fastest because they are the lightest due to options like AWS being taken off.
AcesEleven
09-17-2006, 12:18 AM
hmm, ok, thanks for the quick reply. I doubt that hte spoilers would maek muc hof any difference for me, for hte MAIN thing I'm looking for is a stronger acceleration rather than a higher top speed, adn if anything, spoilers woudl add to top speed. I'm probably sticking with getting a Stealth, but now I just have to deal with FINDING one.. the hardest part. Basically, I'm trying to spedn anywehre from $5-7K on buying/restoring if needed. Hopefully I cna find a deal close to Houston by christmas though, and if not, I guess I have one hell of a road trip ahead of me xD.
djserax313
09-17-2006, 01:13 AM
Yes they are the same car pretty much, Mitsubishi in my opinion did a lil better in the styling department. I would buy whichever one you like the looks of better performance are basically the same.
AcesEleven
09-17-2006, 01:29 AM
ya, that's what I figured. But the style alone is nearly identical as well. They both have near-same form. The ony major difference I really see between the two is the tail on the 3000GT looks a bit better imo.
foxx
09-17-2006, 02:02 AM
im a big fan of the stealth, ive had 2 one na and the new one i have is rt/tt
AcesEleven
09-17-2006, 02:11 AM
hmm, I thikn basically my deciding factor will be which is cheaper compared ot the condition xD. I'm not muc hfo a fan of the tail, and REALLY not of the spoiler on the stealth, but love the rest of the body. But.. then again, I can always get newer body kits as well to accent for that.
foxx
09-17-2006, 02:33 AM
the vr 4 is easier to get parts from the dealer. in my experience, mitsubishi needs a 3kt vin code, and dodge tells me to go to mitsubihi
foxx
09-17-2006, 02:35 AM
though i must say the stealth is alot more masculine
AcesEleven
09-17-2006, 02:42 AM
hmmm, so if you need parts, dodge telles you to contact mitsubishi? That's weird. I was kind of hopign it the other way around, considering mitsubishi is import and dodge is...just conveniently here.
foxx
09-17-2006, 02:46 AM
well if it helps, what i did was go to cars.com and grabbed a vin off of a vr4 that matched my car and wrote down the vin. plus i tell the parts guy that the vin is not my actual car so he doesnt enter the parts into the system and screw the vr4 carfax up
AcesEleven
09-17-2006, 03:03 AM
haha ya, thanks for the advice there bro. Knowing me, I'd do somethign along that line.. but forget to tell teh parts guy xD. Hmm, so do you know if there's much room under the hood for expansion? I haven't gotten to look at too many hoodshots, so am not too sure if there is much room.
foxx
09-17-2006, 01:31 PM
these are some of the best cars to build, they have 1000 horsepower potential. i ran mine at the track and pulled a 14.1103@96 mph with a 1.8 60 foot and that was bone stock with 130,000 miles on it. i just received my race downpipe with pre cat eliminators, hi-flow cat, and 3 inch piping with a magnaflow muffler. according to what i read it shoulg give me between 40-60 horse at the flywheel. im trying to finish it for wednesday so i can run it again. if youre looking to see if the car is upgradeable, go to 3sx.com, or dnperformance.com and check out the 3s listings. however there is one drawback to building these cars, the drivetrain is very expensive to replace, and parts are hard to get.
AcesEleven
09-17-2006, 03:40 PM
damn.. nice times! What all have you done to it, at least, what major upgrades have you made?
foxx
09-17-2006, 05:52 PM
so far i have not done anything, like i was saying that was bone stock. this tuesday ill be putting in my exhaust and im hoping for the best
foxx
09-17-2006, 05:53 PM
sorry i took so long to answer i just got out of work
AcesEleven
09-17-2006, 06:02 PM
hah don't worry about it bro. I've been trying to thikn of somethign to do to it first once I get it that'll increase the performance for quite a bit at a lower cost, for once I DO get it. Although, I myself do'nt know how to do much w/ cars yet, but I've worked on a few and a good friend of mine is a head mechanic @ the age of 17.. so he's good. Any ideas? That and I'm planning on putting a new exhuast/muffler setup, because it's going to have to sound nice xD. Just don't know what I want to put in yet as far as that goes.
foxx
09-17-2006, 06:08 PM
check out enhancedstreetperformance.com, for a downpipe. if you can afford it its only $300 dollars, and includes a front precat eliminator. when you go to put it on, you should hollow out the rear precat also. according to dn performance just doing this should net you 40 to 50 hp gain. pretty impressive since 91-93 had 300 hp stock.
AcesEleven
09-17-2006, 06:22 PM
wow.. I woudlnt mind spending $300 at all. I'll basically have about $700-$1000 to spend on just upgrading it. But ok, I'll keep that in thought. W/b the turbo. I've heard some people say that making it a single turbo will make it quite a bit faster. Does that sound right?
foxx
09-17-2006, 06:33 PM
yes and no. with the twin set up, you get more cfm with smaller turbos. that also translates to less boost lag. true if you go single turbo you can fit a larger turbo into your engine bay, but spool up time is key. it all depends on what kind of driving you do. if your driving on the street, its bet to keep twin setup, that way your not dealing with major lag at every light, but if your going to race road courses and are going to be at high rpms for an hour or so, you dont have to woory about that. for drag if you can afford a stutter box and nitrous just to spool the turbo for launch than go with single, but personally i find the twins more reliable
AcesEleven
09-17-2006, 06:42 PM
hah, no, I'm just driving on the street. The main thing I'm looking for is acceleration in short term, so havign a quick 0-60 or 0-100 is what I want most. It'll prolly be awhile before I reach the top speed, mainly because there ar no closed roads where I live, and it's very urban, so it's hard to to much of anythign anywhere besides streetlight racing.
foxx
09-17-2006, 07:09 PM
i would stick with stock. another cheap upgrade is to buy a boost controller from summitracing.com or 3sx also but a boost guage. i recommend autometer as they have the most dead on guages. you can turn you boost up to 12 psi from 9. however do not go over 14 psi or you will hit fuel cut and probably destroy your motor. bringing it up to 12 on a 91-93 will put you at 320 hp, where the 94-99s run at
AcesEleven
09-17-2006, 11:31 PM
hmm.. boost controller.. Is that just a Control unit that controls how much psi is applied to each cylinder? I'm still new to some of these parts. I only have basic knowledge about all the parts and junk, basically just all the stuff that you NEED to have to drive, but not anything TOO in depth. I'm working on that though.
foxx
09-18-2006, 05:28 PM
yeah, you have to splice into your wastegate control vacuum line, and then you turn a knob to set your psi
ang53188
09-26-2006, 12:38 AM
i have a 95 dodge stealth rt for sale for $7000 in located wisconsin