:)I got on a back road yesterday in my home town and opened it up and never saw where the police car came from. He pulled me over and really pissed me off right off the bat. Yes I was wrong...didnt have my seat belt on, rolled through a stop sign and got it to 92 mph before I saw him. He walked up to the car with great officer safety then he pissed me off. For some reason he put his right hand on my trunk as he walked up and started pushing on the trunk. Hard enough i had to check later to see if he dinted it. He walked up and said "could you go any faster?" I said sorry officer I was trying to get home because I have a terrible headache...He said again " could you go any faster? You ran that stop sign.." I'm thinking to myself "Damn is that all he got me for..."...I apologized again and he said for the third time " could you go any faster? ( a bit more agitated). Finally I said "well you want the truth or a lie?" He said "of course I want the truth." So I responded " I have had it pegged out" He leaned in and looked at the speed-o and said "that thing says 160"..I said "yes sir, it does" ...Then came back with "Can I see your drivers license and proof of insurance..?" Response...Open up wallet and convienently have to reach behind badge to get to insurance card...He looked at my drivers license..Rolled his eyes and said please slow down, dont roll through stop signs and put on your seat belt...I mailed him his thank you card for his professional courtesy this afternoon. WHEW...[&o]
MangoInTX
08-30-2006, 11:17 PM
You dog! [sm=teetertooter.gif]
I know people in low places ;) therefore the officer would have written me up in a heart beat.
Lateral-G
08-30-2006, 11:31 PM
Truly amazing.......getting clocked at 92mph and blowing off a stop sign and only getting a warning............a-freaking-a-ma-zing........
You are extremely lucky you didn't get a ticket for reckless and imprudent driving or worse yet getting arrested and having your vehicle impounded.
I think you've used up all your lives...........
-G-
mnboy
08-31-2006, 12:26 AM
Dodgegirl,
A pretty girl in a nice car... especially a pretty girl in a fast nice car, even better!
Professional courtesy works wonders, but you did probably burn up a couple of the seven on that one.
YOUR attitude would have been the measure here... and you passed...
:)
MN
topbanna3767
08-31-2006, 03:48 AM
if you think thats funny ,i was riding out at 3 in the morning ,so no one else is on the road(except for 5-0 of course)i was running on a local straight away.in nyc they are few and far between.so the story goes im doing about 130 ,know at the insistance of my fellow co workers in the car.(never bring over zeolous frineds in a new muscle car bad things happen all the time)so its dark and at those speeds all your concentrating on is the road and tail lights.well one set of tail lights belonged to highway patrol[>:] ....so my friends are saying hey you just buzzed highway patrol,of course im saying no way looking out the rear view mirror very quickly (still doing 130) so by now highway is about 1/2 mile behind me.....so at those speeds you just dont hit the brakes unless you want a date with the guard rail so i start slowing down now im about 3/4 of a mile finally stoped about a mile and sat there waiting .he finally caught up and as they exited the vehicle me and my fellow coworkers,are laughing and and the highway patrol asks me you know how fast you where going of course i answer depends when you saw me :D....so he replyed when your car rocked my cruiser i said oh about 130 thats about right he replyed.:)....it was at that point we all identified ourselves as cops and the funnier part was my side seat driver and back seat driver knew the 2 guys so shortly there after where all laugh admiring the new car .with off course the smell of fresh brakes in the air :D:D.......look before i get read the riot act i know speed kills blah blah blah, we have all done things wit these kinds of cars that well maybe was a little crazy.it was the only time i did it ...(that fast anyways) so just enjoy the story for what it is and no riot act reading [sm=bustedsign.gif]
Daytona RT
08-31-2006, 05:22 AM
Lady & Gent,
I have to admire the "Professional courtesy," ok admittedly I envy the opportunity for the inequitable treatment shown one officer to another. Inequitable, in that had either of you pulled me over in my Daytona, doing 92 let alone 130, the chances are exceptionally good that the following would have occured.
Field Sobriety review.... Close vehicle inspection, including search... exceptionally strongly worded condemnation for the risk placed on the general public and reckless disrespect for the officer in his patrol area.. certainly would have been given a document of summons to the local traffic jurisdiction.. and possibly a set of cuffs and a ride to the local station.. all this followed by extensive cost to gain the release of the vehicle, reinstatement of insurance, payment of judgement, payment to bondsmen, time lost from work, or more likely the cost of a job search due in part to my loss of the job for reckless driving... risk to my family domestic security.. and the lasting memories for eveyone involved.
Professional courtesy.. Serve and protect.. rule of law.. seems unequitable to me..
Just the obvious unsolicited viewpoint, of one not so fortunate to be able to rely on Professional Courtesy
IXLR8
08-31-2006, 12:25 PM
Granted I was only going 47 in a 30 near my office, but I was let off. Since all other paperwork was in order and courtesy was shown to the officer, he let me off with a warning. BTW he did like the car and was waiting for his department to get a few.
See even fat old guys get break every once in a while, although I would have flashed a little man-boob to seal the deal if I had to....
mnboy
08-31-2006, 01:01 PM
Professional Courtesy is variable. It isn't written in stone. Our lucky lady here, in this case, got lucky.
No one condones blowing stop signs, speeding, or not wearing a seat belt.
I wasn't there, the stop sign was maybe a slow roll through, and the speed was when it was a quieter time on the road -- all factors in the officer's judgement. Maybe if it were different, he would have started writing.
She wasn't being questioned about her sobriety -- however, now a days, the courtesy ride home is very rare indeed, brought on by the drunks themselves who couldn't STAY home.
We all have probably been given breaks. I have. And I have felt bad about it -- I felt as a law enforcement representative you should practice what you preach -- no, I am not perfect. There are times even when a fellow officer is pulled over, they do not identify themselves professionally. Several reasons, but one is embarrasment. Also, some agencies tell your agency.
I frankly feel why not extend the courtesy in minor cases. When I go home at night, and hear sirens, I'm very glad I'm home and not flying down a dark road at 130 running code 3 to a situation that might be my last...
:)
MN
Marty, this should have been a general post. I didn't mean to look like I was going after you...
topbanna3767
08-31-2006, 02:27 PM
well daytona rt sorry about the whole bail bonds thing that would suck [>:]......but hey we all have jobs and when you have that job certain perks :D come with them for a vacumm sales man free vacums ,for a car parts person discount auto parts (free im sure as well) ,etc etc etc ......le get professional courtesy:D heck its about the only thing we can get without loosing our jobs for........heck depending on what part of the country your in guys write each other in there own depts (sad really)....a highway guy here in nyc pulled over a las angles sheriff and was going to say take care and have a nice day,this idiot was brain washed by serve and protect was insulted he didnt get a ticket and told him had the situation been reversed he would have written him, so he happly helped to not 1 but 2 :D:D:D.....my philosophy is simply ,criminals dont see dept or jurisdiction and nether do i all le get a break ,including a ride home if neccesary.heck he may have had 1 to many because he lost a partner or some other god awful reason like seeing a little kid burn to death in a fire,dont ever be quick to judge.besides i have written a ticket now in close too 4 years ,my last shooting has kept me grounded in house didnt do anything wrong just shall we say sometimes things are better off not said [>:] real bummer......
Lateral-G
08-31-2006, 02:37 PM
Now for the other side of the coin................
I was pulled over for not having a front plate and given a ticket.
I wasn't speeding, driving erratically or anything else. I was courtesous and polite and acknowledged I didn't have a plate on the front and that it was in my trunk if the officer wanted to see it. No matter to him, he was upholding the law and told me so in no uncertain terms. He and his partner both approached my car with weapons drawn, and this was in the parking lot of the office complex where I worked (I was on my way back from getting lunch at the local Quizno's). A real high crime area...NOT!
Now I can see getting a ticket for speeding or blowing off a stop sign or improper lane usage, but a front plate not being displayed????
My brother-in-law is a cop in a local municipality and he laughed his ass off when I told him. He knew I'd get pulled over one day in what he calls my "Pull me over! I'm yellow!" car. In all his years he's NEVER given a ticket for a front plate not being displayed. The only time he said they would ever consider it is if they pulled someone over for speeding or other violation and the guy was being excessivle rude or abusive. He took the ticket, contacted the local DA and they quietly got rid of it. He said the guy doing the stop was a part time employee that worked one a month or less for FREE. The other officer with him was a full time patrolman just riding along to keep an eye on him. I guess certain departments have these "freebie" officers. (perhaps our other law enforcement officials on this forum can comment) Anyway this guy was just looking for ANYTHING and I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
BTW I have vanity plates and there's no way, now how I'm going to drill holes in the front bumper of my TB Daytona. So I guess I live with the consequences.
-G-
Daytona RT
08-31-2006, 03:39 PM
Before we digress into , "this happened to me" or "You don't know me until you walk a mile in my shoes"
My post was not to feed indignation or disrespect to anyone, officer or civilian. Truthfully my point was that if we make an unfortunate choice, behave in an unacceptable manner, recklessly endanger another or fail to meet our civic responsibilities to the laws laid down, we're just going to have to accept the reprecussions. Whether we choose to get into the full potential of our Charger or we disregard any law, a citizen; any citizen, is expected to stand responsible for their own actions. No one is exempt.
My last verse on this over used soap box, would go something like this:
So many have fought and earned for us the freedoms and prosperity that comes with responsible citizenship. The legal system; as nieve as this will sound, has a responsibility to provide "Equal protection under the law" So when any member of law enforcement misuses the authority and trust given them by, we the citizens and our representatives, a fundimental violation of ethics and frankly speaking, a reason for forfiture of their authority should be attached.
Accepting the authority of law enforcement is the cost of a moral society, ethical & equitable behavior on the part of that authority is the very least we must expect of them. I am a huge proponent of our law enforcement official local, state & federal. I simply will not quietly abide misuse of the trust and obedience their office demands. "Equal Protection Under The Law" is what I expect and will condone and accept nothing less.
Thank you for your attention, and now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
topbanna3767
08-31-2006, 03:55 PM
hi there listen rent a cops are the worse although i dont know why you would hire them ? they only work part time ,here in nyc we have rent a cops there called auxillaries ,they work for free (if thats not an oxy moronic statement i dont know what is work for free) ,they get no respect and are actually mocked and laughed at.......renters are kinda like women always with something to prove..any ways im not nocking anyone le or not ,respect for the law should be given at all times and to all ....badge or not (except in ghettos) .....for the exception of the occasional indiscretion of speeding (with care given to time place surroundings)...an attempt to minimize the potential for bad things to go wrong..we all know that guy named who said things that can go wrong will go wrong:D......besides it the rule of law that seperates us from the savages of the 3rd world countries.(arabs included reguardsless of how western they claim to be)
BigBananna3796of4000
08-31-2006, 04:32 PM
Cool story you should have brake standed as he walked up to your ride.
I wouldnt suggest driving w/o your seat belt. God forbit if you are phyically harmed in a wreck and and you have to sue the other guy/gal your insurance company will lower your claim due to not wearing a seat belt. Seat belts have proven to prevent injury in accidents and insurace companies will pay out less if they find you not wearing one. Even though they look gay they work.
Not trying to be a negative nellie.
dodgegirl67
08-31-2006, 05:22 PM
Ok I posted to see what kind of responses to close calls you guys have been involved with and now you guys are taken it tooo far..Let me clarify a few things. First of all yes EVERY job has some kind of professional courtesy...I made several stops as a police officer and it was the original contact that might have led to a warrant arrest. If I was quilty as a citizen for speeding or running a stop sign I would let the person go with a warning. Now that is not to say I didnt run their DL for possible warrants. I firmly disagree with Driving while intoxicated so those would usually go to jail.
I left police work for a better paying job at a chemical plant. Now topbananna3767, I dont know how other states are with their peace officer license but in Texas you have to have an agency carry your license to keep it active. Now, in this capacity you are not a full time employee and YOU CAN NOT BE PAID, by the state of Texas guidelines. You are considered a Reserve Officer. You are not paid but you do get to keep your peace officer license. You have to provide a minimum number of hours per month with that agency for them to carry your license. Why would you want to maintain your license? Just like having a motorcycle endorsement on your drivers license. You may not own a motorcycle at the time but its easier to pay the yearly fee to keep the endorsement in case you ever want to get another motorcycle. You dont have to challenge the test. Once you have gone through an academy and take the Peace Officer test you dont ever want to try and challenge it again. It is a son of a bitch to pass the first time.. wanna see what its like then try it..Here is a link to practice test..http://52ndbpoc.tripod.com/test.htm....Good luck.
Yes I was wrong and the officer was nice. I have been preached to by husband countless times for not wearing a seat belt but that goes back to police work and bad habits. I usually got my ass chewed out by my field training officer when I put it on. In the event I needed to exit the patrol car in a hurry to back a fellow officer up, I didnt need to be caught by the seat belt. I got in the bad habit of tucking it under my left thigh giving the appearance it was buckled.
I know, slow my ass down, buckle up and dont ROLL through stop signs...
topbanna3767
08-31-2006, 05:28 PM
do you know what i find most troubling in your story [>:]...you said husband ,if you ever need a new one drop me a line:D.......
CHARGER R/T
08-31-2006, 09:55 PM
That must have sucked, I know the reasone why he checked your trunk. Cops check to see if anybody is hiding in the trunk waiting to ambush them, and if anything should happen to the officer he left his fingerprints on your trunk.
Zedd
09-01-2006, 03:51 AM
Not that this is going to make me very popular in this thread, but this is a big indication of one of the reasons peace officers get a bad name. Off duty officers of any type are citizens like the rest of us. NOBODY should be let off doing 92 or 130 no matter what piece of metal is in your pocket. Nobody will ever catch me doing either of those speeds anywhere but on the track. If they do however I fully expect to be punished because I am not above the law and neither is anyone else. If any of you 'officers' think you are, you should seriously rethink your vocation. I really wish your Lieutenants, Seargents, Watch Commanders or whatever your direct superior was could read this and see whom they are emplying with my tax dollars.
Just so you know, I am not jealous because you seem to be able to get away with it. I just have a very big problem with paid public enforcers that don't feel they need to enforce themselves. Lead by example if you want to be effective.
topbanna3767
09-01-2006, 05:07 AM
WELL IM GLAD YOU THINK SO Z BECAUSE WE ARENT LIKE ANY ONE ELSE ........WHILE WE WORK YOU GET TO CHILL AND RELAX WHILE THE REST OF PROTECT YOU REAR SO TO QUOTE JACK NICHOLSON FROM A FEW GOOD MEN ,ID APPRECIATE IT IF YOU JUST SAID THANKS AND MOVED ALONG YOUR OPNION DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING TO ME ,BECAUSE UNTILL YOU WALKED A MILE IN MY SHOES OR ANY LE PERSONS SHOES YOU TOO WOULD KNOW WE ARENT THE SAME AS SOME RETARDED CLERK AT SOME PARTS COUNTER OR A VACUM CLEANER SALES MAN NOW DONT GET ME WRONG I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ANYONES PROFESSION EXCEPT THE STREET PHARMACIST...SO IF I GET A BAD VIB OR I GET SOME SLACK FROM AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE YOU Z MAN WHO WALKS AROUND UNDER BLANKET OF THE VERY FREEDOM I PROVIDE DOESNT BOTHER ME 1 BIT..SO WHEN I HEAR YOU SAY WE ARE NO DIFFERENT I HIGHLY DISAGREE AS A MATTER OF FACT I STRONGLY PROTEST,WE ARE NOTHING ALIKE.AND THIS WILL BE THE LAST POST I WILL BLOG ON THIS SUBJECT.AS A MATTER OF FACT WHEN I SAW PEOPLE WHERE LOOKING FOR THAT PROGRAM ON TV I WENT LOOKING TO HELP PEOPLE OUT,BECAUSE THATS THE KIND OF GUY I AM THE SAME IF SOME RETARD WAS BEATRING YOU WITHIN AN INCH OF YOUR LIFE EVEN WITH YOUR SMUG COMMENTS (WELL MAYBE ID STOP TO GET A DONUT FIRST ;)....
Zedd
09-01-2006, 05:24 AM
LOL Dude, if you really were a Peace officer I think you might be able to spell. Beyond that you would not be this excitable. If you are, again I suggest you find another line of work. I would hate for anyone to meet you on the street with your hair trigger. Have you considered seeing the department phsychologist?
For your information, I was a deputy Sheriff for two years before I decided that between the minor corruption I witnessed, and the lack of pay and benefits, I was better off in the private sector.
To be honest, as dangerous as my job was as a Sheriff, I am now an electrical contractor who spends every day with the possibility of killing myself with 1/2" of movement in the wrong direction in a 480v panel.
I fully respect all Peace officers who don't think they are the next coming. Do your damn job and don't think you are better then anyone else. You will do a far better job when you realize you are a servant of society and not some illiterate bringer of justice.
topbanna3767
09-01-2006, 05:43 AM
well zed which im sure is no relation to the gay pawn shop owner in pulp fiction because im sure you not thats why you quite .what did i forget a c in vaccum big deal .i quess maybe when your done quiting be an electrical contract(ps all flunkers of le turn to construction) you can become a grammer teacher ,well maybe not because you happen to have a gramatical error in your first sentence z man.minor corruption please what did you witness a donut sale 2 for the price of one ,then let me guess you saw serpico and wanted to make a difference and got fired and turned to construction .Maybe since your such a literary genious you should have gone back to college and published a book.you could have tittled it "electrician" im sure it would be an awesome page turner..cant wait to read the chapter on transformers.......[sm=closed.gif][sm=deadhorse.gif][sm=shootshoot.gif] yes i like that deliverer of illiterate ..oh by the way since your so into spelling you spelled phsychologist wrong its spelled psychologist,just for your info.hey i have a fine trigger finger at least im not a half a man like the quiter you are former sheriff a small town in the middle of no where ,oh on a side not dept doc said i was fine ......:D
Zedd
09-01-2006, 05:57 AM
Actually you have it a bit backwards unfortunately. Out here at least on the West Coast, those that don't have the inate intelligence to get an education sometimes turn to law enforcement. It is a terrible situation. Even though I have a degree in EE I wanted to go into law enforcement. I spent the time to get an AA in criminal justice thinking I could make a difference. After the academy I was assigned and was unfortunately disenchanted. This is no small town as you assumed but it is full of people who are more interested what they could gain than what they could solve. I left without pointing any fingers but I was far from a washout and am making well into 6 figures now with my own business. I don't work construction as you say all LE washouts do I am the contractor that pays those washouts.
topbanna3767
09-01-2006, 06:06 AM
dude your a loser save the world [sm=alcoholic.gif][sm=happybounce.gif] funny.im done with you ....
Zedd
09-01-2006, 06:22 AM
Thank you Sir for making my point in no uncertain terms.
topbanna3767
09-01-2006, 06:46 AM
[sm=deadhorse.gif]
Daytona RT
09-01-2006, 07:59 AM
I think from beginning to end 'Naner, you've proven your little more than a poser, and unless I'm terribly wrong, the days when the value of your view meaning anything to anyone, have just passed.
The problem with a habitual liar.. is they don't know when to stop.. Your too crude, inarticulate, pompus & self servicing to be of any value to any reputable LE agency.. If in the wildest possiblility you are a member of some hamfisted, lowbrow, backwater inbred community.. Your still simply no one to which I can give any value to in any regard.
I'm honored to be apart of this community of enthusiast, but as I might with any rogue mutt, tipping over trash cans and making more noise than sense, your days are numbered pal.. You may wander through our community, but your views and values have proven your no value to it as a permanant member.
mnboy
09-01-2006, 01:34 PM
Zedd,
In 1975, when I was hired as a young 22 year old deputy upstart, the sheriff said this to me: "you might work here for 8 hours, but you are a deputy for 24". I never forgot those words.
Another sergeant in CA told us young bucks once this: "take your badges off... put them in your hands... how much do they weigh?" (3-4 ounces). "Just remember that."
I am NOT perfect. Nor was I. But I did remember that I WAS a representative of government and acted that way.
Respect is earned.
Your point about "lead by example if you want to be effective" should be tatoo'ed in the mind of every officer out there. Many do. Some don't. It's the some that make it rough on the most.
I left proud, I am proud, and I believe I made a difference. I have former criminals to this day, smile and talk to me -- I treated them as human beings with poor judgements, not as scum. We are all people, we just make different choices...
:)
MN
mnboy
09-01-2006, 01:54 PM
3767,
I have no rant with you, but just wanted to say, I AM a former deputy of a small town sheriff in the middle of nowhere, and it's amazing how Andy and Barney live in the spirit of those areas -- certainly, not in day to day function, but the ideals are the easy going, clean air, clean fishing holes, knowing most people, thoughtful, people we all should be.
I don't want a rant with you, nor did I post this to make you fell I wanted one. I was just letting you know that all small town sheriff's are not as little minded as you think... ;)
:)
MN
BigBananna3796of4000
09-01-2006, 04:43 PM
Why dont you try hanging out at the Blue Oyster Bar sounds like your cup of tea.
topbanna3767
09-01-2006, 05:07 PM
lol blue ouster club:D......first let me start this blog by saying i am in no way insulting any le anywhere and at any time small town big town small city or big city ....just hearing some idiot (zedd) who thinks he was a cop for 2 years knows it all he isnt what i call a veteran 2 years your still with your feet in 2 worlds reality and police work it isnt untill much later you develop a real cop mentality which zedd (aka idiot) will never know..so let him stick with his degree in ee (what ever that is sounds like a shoe size)where all better of without an idiot like him.sounds like he would be the type that would turn his partner of 20 years in because he got a dollar soda for 99 cents ....[sm=wakeup.gif][sm=violent053.gif] zedd lol
BigBananna3796of4000
09-01-2006, 05:14 PM
AHahhahaa could resist bro!
Just kidding. ha!
Remember that bar in Police Academy?
topbanna3767
09-01-2006, 05:35 PM
whta bar i got a diploma looking thing thats been sitting my safe for the last 13 years
dodgegirl67
09-01-2006, 10:41 PM
Dudes what a can of worms I opened up. I am guilty of leaving the Police Department for more money. I had to survive and police work for both my husband I was not going to give us the better things in life. He has continued in the law enforcement field and I chose the money. We are happy. He has been a cop since June 1973. Still at it. I miss it. I cant drive through Beaumont Texas without saying "hey I remember a call I made there and there and there..." It will always be a part of me. You dont hire in and go through the interview with the lame response..."I want to be a cop to help people"...You are really not helping them you are "mediating" their fights. You are not pro-active you are re-active. You are their problem solver...PERIOD! If you go through the job for 8 hours you see so much ****! I changed. I was a quiet, introverted person. HA! NO MORE! I am not going to say I had ROBCOP syndrome but I had to take control or I was going to get hurt. Not too many guys out there are going to take orders from a female officer. I had to back up what I said. I saw my fair share of things...I thank GOD for not getting killed... I feel like I did my dues and YEAH I do feel like I am owed PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. I appologize for starting this thread. ZEDD,mnboy and topbananna you guys all have your views and you all both entitled to them. I respect all of you!! You are my BRO's...You have all helped me out tremendously...I have nothing bad at all to say about any of you...
Jules
topbanna3767
09-01-2006, 10:56 PM
see what you guys did you upset the dodgegirl.my future wife is upset :D...(i can dream cant i),any hoot dont sweat it dodgegirl no one here is mad or anything ,although i do have some angry fingers that cant stop typing[:'(]......zedd though could use an attitude adjustment [sm=loser.gif]........any ways im done on this topic except to say i consider all le coast to coast me brothers and sisters ,and the haters will always keep on hating ,but im used to it by now.as far as im concerned [sm=closed.gif]
Zedd
09-02-2006, 05:04 AM
DaytonaRT, Mnboy, Jules, thank you for your insightful replies on this subject. As I said in the beginning I knew my opinion would not be too popular. I'm not going to take my time to reply to 3767's further comments since his replies turned into personal attacks against me instead of my opinions and ideas. First rule of debate, attack the opinion not the person.
topbanna3767
09-02-2006, 05:36 AM
just had to have the last word ,you couldnt just leave it alone .you and your opinions keep them to yourself i dont care for you or your opinions.just let it go dude and go put your finger an electrical socket to see if it has power and go away.go play in traffic or something go away we have established this topic as closed i was perfectly content ending you had to keep going ,with your opnion [sm=closed.gif][sm=closed.gif][sm=closed.gif][sm=closed.gif][sm=closed.gif] leave it alone........................
mnboy
09-02-2006, 09:25 AM
Dodgegirl,
I was OK with all this until I read about the "pro-active, re-active" part. Bull. What is the difference? Hmm? Whoever started the police are reactive, not pro active rant is full of BS... I know I've heard this on Rush and other "knowledgeable" programs, and I can see what THEY are saying (reacting), however, THAT is a generalization of the job -- of ANY job.
These are "spins" of words -- rhetoric, pure rhetoric.
For every action, there is a equal and opposite reaction, said Sir Issac Newton -- tell me ANY job that isn't reactive...
I see garbage on the corner, I pick it up, I'm a garbage collector; I hear a baby cry, and change it's diaper or feed it, I'm a babysitter; I hear my phone ring, I answer it, I'm a teenager (LOL); I have a report due, I read my assignments to gather information to write it, I'm a college student; I pick up injured people and take them to a hospital, I am an EMT; You show me an empty cup, I pour coffee, I am a waitress; I see a dangerous felon and take him off the streets, I am a police officer... etc, etc
So what's proactive?
Doing your job...
:)
MN
PS -- I see a Mustang, I want to smoke it, I'm a Charger Owner... ;)
dodgedlr
09-02-2006, 01:21 PM
Well heres my expensive ticket story.
I was 18... maybe 19.
Middle of January, a friend and I are out snowmobiling through town after a blizzard.
New cop in a small town - he came from a bigger town and had a huge chip on his shoulder.
Now first of all I will admit I was definately in the wrong here - but it was fun - and makes a good story.
We were riding down Main St. at 10 or 11 pm. No big deal, lots of people do it. But the street was really icey, so we were spinning cookies, and jumping the snow piled up at the corners. Here comes the new deputy... We aim North and pin the throttle. Blow a stop sign, hit triple digit speeds, and leave the deputy far behind.
Well later he finds out who we were. And we volunteer to meet him in his office.... when we get there he starts dealing out traffic tickets like playing cards..I think we each got five...totalling close to $800, and a required court appearance.
A week later we both get letters from the DA... knocked down to 6 months probation (meaning no traffic tickets) and if we broke that we only got a $60 speeding ticket.
mnboy
09-02-2006, 11:22 PM
dodgedlr,
MOST first offenses are deferred, meaning, if you behave yourself for the next six months, your ticket(s) will vaporize.
But it usually only happens if your slate is clean and it is your first offense.
Yeah, it's tough to get away when on the side of your snowmobile are 6" reflective numbers and letters of registration ;).
Good story.
:)
MN
karleysDAD
09-03-2006, 03:15 AM
Just a fellow brother out here in the middle of the ocean, And wanted to say Mahalo (Thank you), for all the great work we do.
Dont let his (Zedd) comments bother you. Smile and enjoy life and Family. life is to short. We know how hard our job is and some night one of us will not make it home. so Please.
Besafe and and take care of each other so we can go home to your family's.
topbanna3767
09-03-2006, 04:21 AM
amen to that
NiceRT
09-03-2006, 06:45 AM
Wow. I am new hear I know. I have read many many posts and pages. I read this one too. I love my RT and have done things to it. I do have a question on this thread though.
I read many thins about cops and stuff but I am wondering why no matter what is said only this Z4edd guy is the one mentioned? Not everybody agreed with the ones who say they are cops. Topbanana3969 or whomever. I like cops. They like me. I thought the Daytonort guy was meaner about cops. If this the way this forum is maybe I'm in the wrtong place.
The last guy. KayleysDad or whatever. How come you have a topless picture of your kid? Isn't that just a little worong?
topbanna3767
09-03-2006, 04:52 PM
hi there and your in the right place dont sweat it .Its like the godfather movies sometime its gotta happen to clean the bad blood out :D....but youll find that the sight is more then a good spot for info and help.even zedd:D
karleysDAD
09-03-2006, 09:13 PM
NiceRT (Fred Johnson):
You have some problems if you think I put my little Honeys picture in here because she has no top. And worse yet why would you even look at such a Happy baby pic. And think about why she has no shirt.
You may want to take your self to your local PD and reg's. your self.
dodgegirl67
09-03-2006, 11:13 PM
Oh come on now mnboy...Work one eight hour shift as a cop in a busy town and you will see you are being reactive not proactive..Going from call to call...They are actually calling you while you are still out on a call to go to another call...That is REACTIVE....Riding around stopping by the park to chit chat with local teens and just be out there to be seen is done on days..some of the time...Work evenings and midnights and you run from call to call...Just like working at a refinery...85% of the work on the equipment is reactive..."Hey we got a bad reading on this valve or signal in the control room, can you look at it before it shuts the unit down?"...Reactive....Not.."Hey can you shut this part of the unit down so I can do a PM (preventative maintenance) on this valve?" Yeah right...I can really see them doing that for me. All I am saying is, it was my experience that MOST of my work for the PD was REACTIVE not proactive...Why dont you do a poll at your local pd and find out if they think they are being REactive or PROactive and get back to me?
Let's end this nonsense. I am sorry I ever started this thread...I guess the next thread I start will be PROACTIVE...Because this one was definitely REACTIVE.;)
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mnboy
09-04-2006, 08:17 PM
KarleysDad,
I left that comment alone from Nice RT, but I think he was the ONLY one to THINK such a thought. I was abit taken back by it, in fact. I think the same as you do Dad, if someone is thinking along that line, they better think of help!
:)
MN
mnboy
09-04-2006, 08:25 PM
Dodgegirl,
The reactive/proactive is moot. I was in for 14 years, and at the same time I was a Nationally Registered EMT, I fully understand the pro/reactive take. We certainly could agrue, but we are coming from the same place but since I'm older, I probably have a different take on it. OK, it's over. No rant from me about you -- won't happen. [sm=deal.gif]
I'm 10-7 on this one. ;)
:)
MN
dodgegirl67
09-04-2006, 08:42 PM
mnboy...
I think its funny you say that since you are older you probably have a different take on police work. I say that because like I mentioned earlier, my husband is 15 years older than me and has been in police work since the early 70's. Our biggest fights were over if one) you chase a guy that ran from you..(of course it really depended on the crime committed) and two) what happened to the guy that ran from you after you caught him. My husband being old school was one) why chase the guy to begin with only to possibly get hurt and be tied up doing paperwork for half the evening? and two) after you caught him he has to go to the hospital first...Me being younger one)chase him for the fun of it and two) if he went to the hospital first then your second stop after the jail was IAD...That got old for me real fast. Old school got away with it and the new way was you were going to get complained on so treat him with respect even after he diesrespected you and ran from you...
So you see I had my fair share of fights with old school police work... I RESPECT all of you except for NiceRT...I have to back everyone up on this one...Its a baby picture for Godness sake!! It's not a bad picture...It's a picture of a sweet little baby girl!!!
mnboy...You the one that owns your own construction business now?? Mostly electrical or both instrument/ electrical?? Tough job also...HOT job right now...Down here in southeast Texas we are short handed on contractor labor in the local plants due to Katrina and Rita hurricanes last year...All the good hands are taking the higher paying jobs and leaving the local refineries in a bind for labor..
mnboy
09-04-2006, 09:11 PM
Dodgegirl,
Nope not me in construction. I still work for the county but in a different job.
I started police work in 1967 as an Explorer Scout, in the identification division. After I got my license in 1968, I went to the EVOC course and learned the left/right, 10-2 steering position and then started diving into jail division, radio division, and patrol (my favorite) division. In 1975 I went full time, but left CA for MN. I was an NR-EMT-A (Nationally Registered EMT Ambulance) from 1975 until 1994. I left law enforcement in 1988 and left the ambulance crew in 1994.
I could tell you things that would make you laugh and cry -- I'm sure you could with me too. All in all, it is a great job in a lousy whiny society. When the cops have to worry about public opinion instead of doing their job, we are soon all doomed. The media has killed trust in our society -- nothing is sacred anymore, especially when they blow open undercover national security work, because "they have the RIGHT to know..." or "the public NEEDS to know".
Why? I would rather be safe and not know.
Rant over.
:)
MN
PS = let's go find a Mustang to blow away... cover THAT channel 4!! :D
Velryba
09-05-2006, 04:14 PM
you girl, you damn lucky and not only once :)
but the rest of the post (OK just 90%) is just bla bla bla rubbish bla bla bla bollocks bla bla bla :eek:
So instead of more bla bla bla, tell me some more laughing stories when you got pulled over or even when you've pulled someone over.
For me one of the funniest moment was when me and my wife went on holiday to Czech Republic (mind you here in England the drivers seat is on the right!), we came to the Czech border and the patrol officer came to my wife’s/passenger side and asked her where we are coming from and where we are going (he was a German officer and very arrogant). Then he asked her for the papers of the car, so she passed it over. Then he asked for the insurance papers, she passed it over. On all those papers figured my name and he was so arrogant and probably trying to impress the others who were looking at our car as it was quite unusual Opel GTE 2.0 (lots of body styling, bigger wheels, loud exhaust and we were about 20, well young looking bastards :D:D:D) and then he asked for the driving licence, of course she passed him mine. With his BAD english he said: "I'm not interested in his but I want to see yours."
At that time she hasn't passed her test yet, so her reply was: "But I don't have any." Then he starts shouting out loud so all can hear: "I can't believe she's driving without a licence through the border check." I could allready see some of the other officers starting to laugh, holding theirs faces not to out loud. To that my wife replied: "But I'm not the driver!!!"
Then the hell broke out. All the officers were laughing out loud and pointing at him, he looked inside the car, realized that the steering wheel is on the other side, red faced by anger he showed us to the vehicle check spot and did a proper car search while we were standing outside and still giggling.
And the steering on the other side helped me on several occasions (in Czech) on turning to the road where you were not allowed or driving through a road where only public transport could, always screaming out loud: "Oh my god he has a steering on the other side."
And letting me go after I told them how bad it is to be on the other side :)
Now those were good times ;)
mnboy
09-05-2006, 09:28 PM
Velryba,
You're right about the bla-bla-bla and I'm guilty too.