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RE: Startup noise? - 12/1/2006 3:12:19 PM   
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ETX lets show some respect for the moderators. and theres no reason you and graythang need to be at each others throats, we are all more or less in the same boat. CALM DOWN. no need to aim comments at one person...your both good guys, it just seems like you two need separated sometimes. anyways, now that im done being mother hen, rattle those dodge people until they check out your truck for free. and dont give up when they send u on wild goose chases and as some one so plainly put it 'dance around' you

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RE: Startup noise? - 12/2/2006 9:10:08 AM   
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Hi guys,

just wondering if there are any 3.7's out there that have the same problem? They are technically identical just with two cylinders less. I also wanted to add my 2 cents regarding oil. Some motors can't handle synthetic oil well. While it is supposed to flow better and reach parts faster due to the flow characteristics it is tow thin for some motors or better oil pumps and instead of improving oil flow, you starving you engine at startup.

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RE: Startup noise? - 2/20/2007 3:35:33 PM   
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I have an 03 Ram with a 4.7 and I am having the same problem. My truck is at the dealer right now and you just described my situation.  They are claiming it is normal, but we all agree it is not.  I took the service guy out and he agreed it was pinging and then told Dodge that he could not replicate the "situation" . What ended up being the problem? / "situation" on yours? How do those hemi's run ??  Thank You for the help.

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RE: Startup noise? - 3/26/2007 4:22:30 PM   
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Well... finally got around to taking my Dakota in- now that it's warmer outside, the ticking is back.

The guy at the dealership says what's causing my noise is the purge solenoid; apparently they click pretty loudly sometimes.

Does this sound reasonable?

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RE: Startup noise? - 3/26/2007 6:21:16 PM   
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I have a '05 3.7 v6  going past two years now and have never had this "ticking" in either warm weather or cold. Does not sound like something normal to me. I don't buy this "purge solenoid" explanation. Is this something that is happening with the 4.7?

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RE: Startup noise? - 3/27/2007 6:21:01 AM   
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I will say this once again! It’s the valve lash adjusters on the right side. There are no lifters or push rods. It’s an overhead cam engine. Both the 4.7 & 3.7 are the same with two less cylinders. I have been through this mess for a year. It was much of what cost DCX a buyback of Gray I. They can't seem to correct the situation at all no mater what they do in the shop to the engines. It might be a milling problem or something not designed or built right from the get go. The 08s are said to have redesigned valve lash adjuster. Hummm. That may be their fix for this problem. By the way Gray I is still parked at the dealer in the back very lonely looking. It is said its going to auction. Make my dealer an offer for her. I bet they will let it go in the teens. 06 4.7 HO TRX4 loaded with 15k in like new condition with a bunch of crap wrong with it.



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RE: Startup noise? - 3/27/2007 5:48:18 PM   
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I just read through this thread.  My '06 Dakota with the 3.7L engine has the exact problem.  I took it in to the dealership this morning for the second time.  The first time it was in, I got the "It's normal" and "It's the purge solenoid" comments.  This time, I told them that I didn't want to hear that any long, and I want it fixed.  In addition, I told them that if it is the solenoid then replace it.  With only 6500 miles on the odo. and dealer oil changes every three months, I shouldn't be hearing anything.  I doubt this will get resolved, and I will probably end up buying a new or newer vehicle.  After being a life long GM owner, I finally tried a different brand, and I am completely dissatisfied.  Oh well, live and learn.

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RE: Startup noise? - 3/27/2007 11:05:08 PM   
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Well...  this was a fun little read.  I am actually kinda afraid to start my truck up...  it has run fine for almost a year.  Actually I am going to go past fine and say great.  I havent had any major problems with it.  (besides teh tranny filter TSB)  I am fairly active on teh forum,  and it seems like we will be all good for a couple weeks,  then a new rush of problems show up, then leave again.  I can understand why people would be pissed about  stuff going "wrong" with their new trucks. (pardon my french, but its needed for effect) I get it...  but do we as a community need to know how a dealer treats a customer?  I feel that we as a forum can use the problem as information, the solution as information, and the rusults of the solution as information.  I have been to crappy dealers...  I have also been to good dealers.   I have taken my brand new truck (my older chev) from a crappy local dealer who gave me the run around,  to a good dealer who took care of the problem.  Thats the great thing about a warranty,  the place you buy from doesnt need to be the place that always fixes it.  I always get a second opinion if they say its "normal" for my vehicle to be "broken"...  thats just how I am.  I suggest that every one do the same if its possible...


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RE: Startup noise? - 3/28/2007 7:16:14 PM   
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Well my truck just started doing this two mornings in a row now. I suppose I should remove my modifications before I go scream for warranty work.

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RE: Startup noise? - 3/28/2007 8:02:07 PM   
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They won’t be able to fix it. I have not read one success story on a repair for the start up chatter. Some guys in other forums had their engines torn apart several time with the noise gone for a shot time than its back. I has to be a design and build defect with no resolve. I guy I use to work with had a 04 Silverado V8 (don't know the size) and it would do the same thing and of course he was told by Chevy it is normal. It’s a role of the dice playing with your hard-earned money on what you receive after the deal. I waiting for my replacement Dak to start making the noise. It took about two months on the first Dak.

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RE: Startup noise? - 3/28/2007 9:37:02 PM   
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Well tomorrow will be "strike 3" then I'll be taking it in. I'll just demand a new motor, maybe offer to pay the difference for the HO.  The ticking doesn't bother me too much, neons have been doing it for hundreds of thousands of miles. But they'll throw some new parts at it, fresh new parts are ok with me. If they pull cams out, I'll have them put HO cams back in.

I'll bring the digicam out tomorrow and record it too, its the same noise as your's.

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RE: Startup noise? - 3/28/2007 9:57:40 PM   
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I can just barely hear it in my 4.7 HO. Hope it doent get louder over time.

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RE: Startup noise? - 3/31/2007 12:38:07 PM   
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Follow Up:  I picked up my Dakota on Wednesday.  Their "Lead Technician" listened to it.  Of course, he didn't any noise.  Then the Service Manager went out and they both listened to it.  The response was that it is normal.  I got so mad I couldn't speak.  Just asked for my truck back and left.  I can't afford to lose anymore work over this lemon.  I have had transmission problems, the base coat paint bubbled up under the clear coat on the hood and had to be repainted, the parking brake doesn't work properly, and of course I have the startup noise.  So like I said in my original post, I'm shopping for a new or newer vehicle.  I'm upside down on this thing, but I just don't want to pay for a POS any longer.  If you guys on this forum keep yours, then I wish all the luck in the world.

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RE: Startup noise? - 3/31/2007 12:54:56 PM   
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I took the truck out and made a couple 1/4 passes and a top end run and I haven't had a noise since.

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