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RE: Startup noise? - 9/10/2006 11:24:45 AM   
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I only got this startup noise after my first oil change. I did the change myself with Mobil 1 EP and a Ford Motorcraft oil filter. I know that alot of people had bad problems with lots of cars with some fram oil filters with back bypass valves. Also the mobil 1 runs on the thin side. Ive been using that stuff for years and years though. Im going to try thicker oil and a mopar filter next change. Who knows right? We had a ford escort that used to tick like crazy with a FRAM oil filter on it. Google search fram and dry startup.

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/10/2006 12:48:11 PM   
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The DH factory Regional Rep said that even though the OM and filler cap both states 5W30 DH is indeed recommending 5W20 for dealer oil changes. He told me this during the problem review process. I told him I was concerned that the dealer installed lighter oil than the OM and cap recommended. I myself feel better with 10W40 but he said that’s wasting money in oil and poorer gas mileage. Like you said "who knows"

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/12/2006 4:24:28 PM   
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UPDATE: It's at the dealer now so far they have taken off the drivers side valve cover, which meant dismantling most other accessories on the drivers side too, like the power brake booster, battery, etc. Now I am a little worried, read below to see why...............

"noise coming from the passenger side of the motor"

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/12/2006 6:32:40 PM   
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You already know pretty much what you're dealing with as far as the shop thing. Like the hospital operating on the wrong leg. It's just real scary that they are removing the top off your brad new engine and removing accessories and disconnecting a bunch of stuff etc. To believe that all will go back together just like the factory may be a stretch.

Good luck and keep us posted. Are you driving a 6.1 Hemi Rental? Hmmmm

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/12/2006 8:51:38 PM   
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nope, sure aren't. First it was a 2007 Trailblazer, not a bad truck at all. But since it's been past 5 days (DC warranty authorization for rentals) I am now driving one of the dealer loaners, an 05 Dodge Shadow. What a POS it is, my Craftsman lawn tractor runs smoother.........

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/13/2006 3:12:21 PM   
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That's all the info they have on your truck and how many day's have they had it and just because the noise sound's like it's coming from the passenger side, that dont mean it is the passenger side, sound travel's in mysterious way's, i thought i had noise coming from the back and it was really in the front of the truck, so keep us updated cause a lot of us probably want to know what that dang sound is.

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/13/2006 7:39:39 PM   
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UPDATE: Both valve covers and cams are off/out.(besides all the other accessories they had to remove in order to do that) Now for the regional manager to come back and "look" at it again.......

Yes, everything I am updating you on is exactly as I know it that day

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/14/2006 11:12:36 AM   
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I know you have to get manager's involved, but can't a mechanic look at your engine and the part's and tell if something is wrong and if you have bad parts, dunno just a thought.

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/14/2006 3:04:55 PM   
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you would think, unless they are planning on mybe replacing the motor?

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/15/2006 1:21:33 PM   
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UPDATE: Stopped by Thursday afternoon. The regional manager came back and took a look at it torn apart. Apparantly all he was looking for was abnormal wear on the cam lobes, there was none. The RM has thrown it into the lap of the engine plant that builds these engines.

Everything is only happening one step at a time under the direct action of this RM as the dealer is trying to make sure all of their time is covered/paid for.

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/15/2006 1:24:11 PM   
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and I found out from the mechanic on Thursday that the hydraulic lash adjusters are not adjustable but rather self adjusting to accomodate for wear over time. I say this as I asked if they tried to adjust them.

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/21/2006 2:12:41 PM   
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FINAL UPDATE: (for now)

OK, a little bumbed. Dealer got word from Dodge that Dodge is claiming all the clanking/rattling noise is "normal" and thus warrants no repair. I'll pick it up tomorrow.

I'm not done with this yet, just have to re-group and figure out how to get someone with authority from the engine plant to come and listen to it, which won't be a small task....

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/23/2006 4:43:08 AM   
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That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard from an automotive manufacture. THAT IS CRAP! Does that mean that every Dak makes that engine noise? NO of course not. Does that mean that yours is Normal and all the rest are not normal? This is an outrage! DH is at a new low. Daimler will dump the Chrysler group. Mark my words. It’s is coming. If you bought a Mercedes Benz do you think they would jack you around like you just did? I think not. Have this situation reevaluated by an independent garage. You mean to tell me they ripped apart your engine and than fixed nothing and sent you on your way?
Sorry but I'm getting to where I can’t stand to see that S… any longer.


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RE: Startup noise? - 9/23/2006 4:49:39 AM   
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Now that would be cool a Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren pickup with like 600HP and flip up doors hehe

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RE: Startup noise? - 9/23/2006 12:19:59 PM   
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my diesel sounding ticking went right away now thats its colder here in NY State. I'm simply going to switch to a heavier oil next time I need an oil change. Guess mine wasnt the same thing.

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