Does anyone know when the 07 Model Rams are coming out? and will it be true that the new 2500/3500 diesels will have the 6.7L CTD from the start. ?

Early September they should be at dealers

The new 6.7L will start production in early January 2007.

ORIGINAL: HAZZERD1051

Does anyone know when the 07 Model Rams are coming out? and will it be true that the new 2500/3500 diesels will have the 6.7L CTD from the start. ?

Ordering is open on '07 models.
Not sure when they actually go into production.

The new 6.7 isn't released until Jan.

Electric Blue is the new color!!

What's new:
Tip start on all automatic gas engines. (no need to hold key until it starts)
Remote start as a factory option.
ESP, with "Hill Assist" standard on Laramie and optional on Lowline/Highline, includes ABS.
Stain resistant fabric. "YES" fabric.
6.7L Diesel available to order in Jan 2007 will have an option for a 6-speed automatic tranny.
SLT bezel is now silver instead of woodgrain.
Round tail lamps (like Dakota)

This i do not understand....

WHY is dodge coming out with a 6.7l CTD that produces LESS horsepower and EQUAL lbs.-ft. of torque, when we have a 5.9l CTD? The 5.9 is much more economical and more hp per liter. Can someone please explain to me why dodge is just tossing out the legendary 5.9l engine that has had people struck with amazement from the start with a bigger fatter engine that does nothing better? That's like asking me if i want a 4 cylinder with 300hp and 300 lb-ft of torque or a v8 with 285hp and 300 lb-ft of torque. I would be crazy to pick the v8.

Maybe people are telling me wrong... Dodge, I know, will make the 6.7l useful somehow. It has to have more torque in order for them to make it. I'm hoping everyone is wrong

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69077

It's not always about the Hp and TQ numbers the power band has alot to do with how a truck/car preforms.

I can't speak for st louis, but at warren tuck we start 07 models on July 5. But then we are down for the next 3-5 weeks afterward.

ORIGINAL: jgralka

I can't speak for st louis, but at warren tuck we start 07 models on July 5. But then we are down for the next 3-5 weeks afterward.

Warren wouldn't shut down after '07 production started... Warren will shut down at the end of this week and will be down for two weeks (July 3-14). The 17th to 24th will be model changeover days and Job1 for 2007 models is July 24th.

St. Louis shut down on June 16th and will start 07 production July 5th.

Um... I work there and yes we start on the 5th and then we are down for 3-6 weeks. I should know for sure how many at the end of this week. We are still working next week.

ORIGINAL: jgralka

Um... I work there and yes we start on the 5th and then we are down for 3-6 weeks. I should know for sure how many at the end of this week. We are still working next week.

Why would they shut down for so long immediately after '07 production starts? When were you told the down time starts, right after the week of the 5th?

My guess is that because they have a 125 day supply of 06 rams and daks. So we are starting the 07 build on the 5th to fill about 4000 orders for 07's. And yes we go down the weeks of the 10th through the 24th. That is for certain. But the rumor mill says that we will bee down for two to three more weeks as well.

Joe

ORIGINAL: jgralka

My guess is that because they have a 125 day supply of 06 rams and daks. So we are starting the 07 build on the 5th to fill about 4000 orders for 07's. And yes we go down the weeks of the 10th through the 24th. That is for certain. But the rumor mill says that we will bee down for two to three more weeks as well.

Joe

I ordered 1 2007 Ram for our dealership. We currently have over 50 Ram LD and HD's in stock right now. We have sold 2 Rams in June so far. I keep telling our Dodge rep that there needs to be another lease program like in April and May of 2005 to get rid of these trucks. If they don't...expect that your Ram plant will be shut down a lot more this coming model year. Sorry but DCX isn't reacting to the truck sales slowdown at all. I feel even more sorry for the guys that build Durangos.

I have to correct myself a bit. We are ahead of build schedule, as we were building 07 models as of 12 noon today! So for 2 hours 1st shift built 07's and all of second built 07's. The only three colors we built were Inferno red, flame red, and silver.

Only '07 year model Rams are in the parking lots at the St. Louis plant. There's a few Electric Blue Rams out there also...they look similar to the PT Cruiser/Neon Blue except they sort of have a purplish hint to it.

ORIGINAL: shadowzform

This i do not understand....

WHY is dodge coming out with a 6.7l CTD that produces LESS horsepower and EQUAL lbs.-ft. of torque, when we have a 5.9l CTD?

The reason for the increase in displacement without any realized increase in HP and torque is because of stringent new emissions restrictions on 2007 model and later diesels (and this is across the board for all diesel engines). It's bigger engine with more potential that's been detuned to be street legal.

For example: VW will actually be skipping the 2007 model year for their TDI models in the US because they don't have a diesel that can meet the new requirements. Their plan is to build up a huge inventory of 2006 models before the cutoff date, and see them throughout 2007. Then they will bring out a 2008 model late next year that meets the requirements.

Cummins has had to go from 5.9L to 6.7L because under the new pollution regs for NOx gases they have to use a lot of recirculated & cooled exhaust gas that cuts peak power output.

That same extra EGR is going to make Cummins owners have to change their engine lube oil much more often, because the EGR puts a lot of soot into the blowby gases.

MPG is going to be either slightly worse (Cummins press release)
or 15% worse (DCx subsidary Thomas Industries Cummins School Bus testing in North Carolina)