SRT4 VS COBALT SS
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SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/2/2006 11:38:43 PM
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wpgdakota
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The Winnipeg Free Press is moding a cobalt SS...they dyno'd it before doing anything and got 262hp from it? anyone dyno a srt4 lately???
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/3/2006 12:04:06 AM
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clean_sx
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i saw that too. I have to call BS on this. simply b/c the cobalt SS is a 2.0L. And i hear the SRT4 gets somewheres of 250Hp as a stage 1.
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/3/2006 6:05:48 AM
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HemiMan4451
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Uh, thats complete and utter BS. A stock Cobalt SS S/C makes 205hp at the flywheel, how is it going to make 262 at the wheels?
And if it makes 262hp at the wheels stock (which it doesnt), the SRT-4 must make 310hp 
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/3/2006 3:51:55 PM
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shiltz
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The same way a stock SRT-4 dyno's at the wheels higher than it's rated HP at the flywheel, i've heard of stock SRT-4's dynoing at 250+ at the wheels, because they were underated from the manufacturer. The size of the engine doesn't really mean much, a honda S2000 makes 240hp with a N/A 2.0L, and a mitsubishi lancer evo makes 286hp with a 2.0 turbo.
Given that i've seen stock cobalt SS S/C run 1/4 mile times right around where a stock SRT-4 would and acording to chevy's specs it weighs more than an SRT-4 does those numbers seem belivable to me.
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/4/2006 12:16:34 AM
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clean_sx
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"262HP" Cobalt
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/4/2006 1:07:09 PM
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HemiMan4451
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Thats complete BS, a Cobalt SS cant come close to SRT-4 times, and theyre saying it makes 262hp at the wheels?
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/4/2006 2:35:10 PM
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shiltz
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Well the shootout Motor Trend did shows otherwise. They showed both to have almost the same performance under the same conditions.
SRT-4
0-60: 6.0 sec
1/4 mile: 14.4 @ 100.8mph
Cobalt SS
0-60: 6.1 sec
1/4 mile: 14.4 @ 99.3mph
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/4/2006 10:17:27 PM
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wpgdakota
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262 was flywheel much less at the wheels...SRT would be higher im sure
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/5/2006 12:00:11 AM
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Dakota_24
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I actually got to rent a cobalt ss and it is a quick lil car; I wouldnt mind having one. But that doesnt mean that if I had a chance to buy a SRT-4 and a Cobalt ss ; I would definetly choose the srt-4 because Im DODGE THROUGH AND THROUGH!
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/5/2006 9:14:11 AM
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For starters, the article is accurate. The Cobalt SS Supercharged is actually almost spot on with the SRT-4 in terms of speeds/power stock vs. stock. It's crap on a road course, and would get its butt handed to it by an SRT-4. That being said, in terms of the 1/4 mile....for price....the Cobalt SS/C is actually the closest stock competitor to the SRT-4.
Read the article.....
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At the factory-stated horsepower peak of 5,600 rpm, all three passes came in at or very close to an engine flywheel output of 235 horsepower, 30 more than stated by GM. Horsepower at the wheels ranged between 187 to 194. In third gear, the 6,450 rpm peak returned a peak horsepower output of 262.1 for the engine and 213.8 at the wheels. Maximum speed peak for third gear was about 160 km/h. In fourth gear, the rpm limit returned 245.8 horses for the mill, and 197.7 at the wheels.
The rev limiter kicks in at that point...meaning its above warrantied specs and is basically red-lining the motor so to be speak...the numbers are completely possible. The SRT-4 put out numbers JUST like this.....so why would you believe it cant be done? Stop thinking the SRT-4 is the only car capable of it. It's NOT. The Honda S2000 puts out 240hp N/A.....in a 2.0L motor.....are they b.sing too? I think not.
Something else I want you to think about...is that the Cobalt SS/C actually only weighs about 50lbs less then the SRT-4....despite being a 2dr coupe. These cars could provide good competition for the SRT-4....in both the Neon and in the Caliber. The biggest difference is that Chevy simply wont match Dodge in performance. They have no profit in it.....and quite frankly....they dont have to....as Dodge has once again shot itself in the foot over not providing a niche car like the Cobalt/Scion tC/Civic/Accord/Solara etc etc....basically a 2dr coupe that is under 25k...
Edit: Just one additional add....not every car dyno's the exact same number or runs the exact same 1/4 mile time. Some run a bit faster...some run a bit slower..
< Message edited by DevilsReject -- 6/5/2006 9:21:32 AM >
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/5/2006 2:34:51 PM
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HemiMan4451
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ORIGINAL: shiltz
Well the shootout Motor Trend did shows otherwise. They showed both to have almost the same performance under the same conditions.
SRT-4
0-60: 6.0 sec
1/4 mile: 14.4 @ 100.8mph
Cobalt SS
0-60: 6.1 sec
1/4 mile: 14.4 @ 99.3mph
Tell that to the SRT-4 guys who get 13's stock.
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RE: SRT4 VS COBALT SS - 6/5/2006 2:58:22 PM
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The stock times for a SRT-4 are between 13.9-14.1......and the stock times for the Cobalt SS/C is like 14.2-14.4....
Truth of the matter is....not everyone gets 13.9.....there are guys who are running 14.5.....just because you have a fast car doesnt mean you can DRIVE IT that fast.....you have to realize....the reaction time of one person is always different then another....other factors added in are sea level, wind resistance, weather, etc...
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