DarkHamlet
05-30-2004, 01:42 PM
where did it go, or did it change name?
it was a sporty car.
it was a sporty car.
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View Full Version : What happen to the Dodge Stealth DarkHamlet 05-30-2004, 01:42 PM where did it go, or did it change name? it was a sporty car. moparturd 05-31-2004, 12:01 AM Not real sure what happened to them. I know they had a fair amount of trouble with them though. Mistubishi kept making the 3000 gt after Dodge said they were no longer selling them. DarkHamlet 05-31-2004, 01:25 AM it was a very nice car, never drove it but it look goooood!. Thanks for you info;) Mopartodd 71RoadRunner 05-31-2004, 07:18 AM They were a hard seller for their price and limited functionality. They made the Stealth up through '96. The Mitsu 3000GT only went 2 years beyond that, through '98. rambo97 06-03-2004, 08:42 PM I was thinkin of that exact question the other week... then I got an idea... instead of the new Magnum Dodge just made ( which I believe wont see too well due to, in my opinon, an ugly body).. Dodge Should have re-invented the stealth, or brought back the Charger... complete with a HEMI.... think about it! would that be SICK? new charger with new HEMI.. it would KICK the new GTO's ass! plus the retro thing is big right now... just a thought..... SRT_YA 06-09-2004, 03:57 PM after seeing a new Magnum in a sharp dark color (I.E. black) and sportin' some stylish rims... I think it looks a lot better in person than it does on TV or in Magazines!!! as for the stealth... there was a nasty rumor that to change the plugs on one side of the engine, you had to take off the intake... doing so caused you to have to buy new gaskets, that were only sold in a set, and were very expensive... I have no proof of this, so, take it with a grain of salt... I have never seen the engine setup myself, so... again, I could be WAY off on this one... if so, I would expect someone to correct this! either way, the Stealth and 3k GT were sharp looking cars to me... with the right package, I think they were pretty quick too?? right?? twin turbo all wheel drive (VR4 or something package for the Mitsu..) rambo97 06-09-2004, 10:18 PM I cant say that its not true, but I heard something similar... just that it was expensive to maintain the engines... I also heard a lot of stealths had Big time Paint problems ( theyd peel, fade, etc) but again, not 100% sure... I do know this: If I had the money.. Id love to buy an old stealth, junk the engine and throw in a 5.7 Hemi ( crate, from the factory).. I think that would ROCK, plus it would absolutely FLY! but..... thats not gonna happen cause the $$ just arent there! LOL thestealth 06-10-2004, 04:23 PM Correct on the spark plug issue. The plenum needs removed on the DOHC and TT motors. First time I did it, it took about an hour, you know, making sure I knew where everything plugged in and bolted to. I can do it in about 20 minutes now. The gasket in question is about $50 from a stealership, but does not need replaced every time. It is a thick rubber gasket. High prices for even the lower models is what killed the Stealth's and ultimately the 3000gt which ran through the 99 model year(along with Supra's and RX-7). The SOHC and DOHC motors are actually quite reliable as long as the 60k services are performed, preventive maintenance goes along way on any car. The TT's are prone to spinning bearings, but I think any "sports car" or any car that gets the piss ran out of it will eventually suffer from bearing problems. I think the biggest boon between the two cars is all the electronic gadgetry that they have. While some of it has a cool bling factor, it really ends up being more crap to break. Stock they ran 13.2 or so depending on what publication you choose to believe. 71RoadRunner 06-12-2004, 05:52 AM The '03 and up Hyundai V6 in the Tiburons are the same way, you have to remove the intake manifold to replace the spark plugs. [sm=smiley36.gif] scatpackmopar 06-13-2004, 10:56 PM To tell the truth Dodge really doesn't like the fact that they have cars made by Mitsubishi and they have tried to kill those type of cars in the past. That is one of the reasons the Avenger changed names to Stratus R/T and the Stealth [along with the Eagle Talon] cease to exist! Chrysler/Dodge want to have to make all of their vehicles so they can have thier own identity. There may be some parts sharing and platform sharing but the sheet metal and look will be destinctive. 71RoadRunner 06-14-2004, 10:50 AM Have you ever checked under the hood of a newer Stratus coupe (Avenger replacements)? The Stratus coupes, including the R/T's, are made by Mitsubishi, and so are the Sebring coupes. The next Neon coming in 2006 will use a Mitsubishi Lancer frame as well as a Hyundai motor. Unfortunately, Mitsubishi is alive and well in DCX.[:@] stealthify 06-15-2004, 11:56 AM There's a lot of false rumors here. The reason the Stealth ended in 1996 wasn't because the car was 'difficult to work on.' The truth was financial reasons. When dealing with the increasing value of the Japanese Yen, Dodge simply did not feel they were profiting enough from these cars and had to end it there. In reality, the Stealth was priced extremely low for a sports car with as many features as it did and it was in Dodge's best interest to terminate the Stealth line if they were going to focus on making higher profiting vehicles. 71RoadRunner- They made the Stealth up through '96. The Mitsu 3000GT only went 2 years beyond that, through '98. Almost - Mitsu made them up until '99. rambo97- just that it was expensive to maintain the engines... I also heard a lot of stealths had Big time Paint problems ( theyd peel, fade, etc) Expensive to maintain the engines... well, not really. In comparison to a Honda, perhaps. However this can be expected with any sports car, which a Honda is not. Paint wise I have to point out that this is definitely not the case. In fact, our factory paint has held up better then just about any other vehicle from the same year. My Stealth is a 91, with a factory Pearl White paint job. I've been asked everything from 'did you recently paint your car?' all the way to 'is this the 2004 model?' It seems as though a TON of people know nothing about these cars, and when a person sees it for the first time they can't believe that the car is pretty much 13 years old. Unlike the few other sports cars from 1991, the Stealth styling remains timeless and still looks modern even today. I will give you this, however: Red painted Stealths are prone to fading. Not peeling, but fading - yes. Believe it or not, but the factory red paint jobs actually did NOT have a clear coat to protect them. Hence the reason your sponge will turn red if you ever try to wash one (seriously, try it). It isn't uncommon for a 91-93 red Stealth spoiler to oxidize or fade with time, but besides that the paint is actually one of the Stealth's best exterior qualities (besides the beautiful curves, of course). thestealth is correct. 60k maintenance is very important with these cars. Our timing belts, unfortunately, are our Achilles Heal. If they break on our cars, we can generally consider our engine nothing more than a paperweight. If maintained properly, this is one thing you shouldn't have to worry about. :) scatpackmopar- To tell the truth Dodge really doesn't like the fact that they have cars made by Mitsubishi and they have tried to kill those type of cars in the past. 71roadrunner's response is an accurate one. Dodge doesn't hate Mitsubishi and they've worked together on many projects. Since Mitsubishi is actually in a lot of financial trouble right now (the only non-profiting car manufacturer in Japan), Dodge/Chrysler may be the only company that could save them. One way or another the Stealth/3000GT are unbelievable cars. I've had mine for quite some time now and there's no other car I rather have right now. thestealth 06-15-2004, 04:00 PM My stock green paint has held up great for being 12 years old. It still shines up great when I wax and wash it. ORIGINAL: stealthify One way or another the Stealth/3000GT are unbelievable cars. I've had mine for quite some time now and there's no other car I rather have right now. Agreed, there are few cars made that are as cool as the Stealth/3kgt. alan92rttt 06-16-2004, 05:56 PM Their is a simple truth to what happend to the Stealth, it can be summed up in one word. VIPER. The stealth has almost the same performance(year per year), was priced lower, lower profit margin. And the topper the viper sells basically on word of mouth the Stealth needed advertising to support it. there was a nasty rumor that to change the plugs on one side of the engine, you had to take off the intake Having to pull the plenum to change the plugs is not a huge deal. The use platinum plugs and they only have to be changed every 60k miles(on a stock car ;)) The '03 and up Hyundai V6 in the Tiburons are the same way,Not suprising its a varriant of the same engine from the 3S's 93tt 08-02-2004, 11:27 AM Here is a little tid bit..... I asked a general manager about 6 months ago why all the turbo charged cars were so small and economical looking and why they were not making any more of the big boys? The answer is that in the mid 1990's the US apparrently banned Japanese manufacturers from bringing in any more turbo cars that were larger than a 4cyl starting in the late 90's. In addition every car that had a turbo had to have 4doors and a back seat! Hence the demise of the rx7tt, stealth tt, 3000gt vr4, Supra tt, and nissan 300zx TT. That is why the rx8, the 350z, and the new eclipses to name a few are not turbo and why the evoVIII and the WRX STI are what they are!! Interesting huh???? alan92rttt 08-02-2004, 12:36 PM Interesting. Wrong. But, Interesting. Proof that its wrong. The 3000 GT VR-4 was sold until the 1999 model year. We won't mentions the v12 6.0L TT Bently or the Porshe 911 TURBO. The turbo v6 cars died becasue everyone wanted SUV's. New sports cars are coming with 4 doors because with they sell better. It makes them "more pratical". 93tt 08-02-2004, 02:02 PM No I am not wrong..it just seems you just didn't have the time or energy to read everything in my post.... 1st I said late 90's which I believe encompasses 1999????? 2nd I guess you didn't realize that Bentley and Porsche are not Japanese imports...glad I could help. 3rd NOBODY makes strictly a 4 door 4cyl turbo car for practicality......and could you explain why they are making the RX8, Eclipse, 350z, the new Supra coming out in a V8, and all the others in non turbo only as of lets say... the LATE 90's???:eek: alan92rttt 08-02-2004, 02:25 PM And of course this "ban" caused all of the Jap automakes to completly stop making their tt V6's and selling them to the rest of the world.:eek: I mean if you can't sell a car in the US why make it. :eek: Its common knowledge that the Jap import super cars were not selling in the late 90's and that is why they stopped making the cars. in 98 they only imported 50 3000GT vr4 to the US. In 1999 they made a totally new body for the car in an attempt to boost the sales. Why would they redesign the body of the car if they could not sell the car any longer. Go do some research on the sales and real reasons, don't take the word of a dealership sales person that probably made it up in the 1st place. 93tt 08-02-2004, 02:44 PM ok, so they were not selling well in the late 90's and thats the reason they stopped importing them (but kept making them in Japan for the next few years) and the skylines aren't imported because they just look too nice I guess, and with the turbo craze the way it is here in the states and knowing that everyone wants the lightest car possible (not being a four door which = more weight) .............dude whatever makes you feel better. I guess the guys in Japan just have not been smart enough to figure out that a two door TURBO V6 right now would sell like hot cakes. Oh, and yes, the fact that we are one if not the biggest importer of Japanese vehicles in the world would be enough to stop making them as a whole. It is called cost management and assembly lines. [:'(] alan92rttt 08-02-2004, 02:58 PM Like the average import tuner kiddie could buy a bran new car in this class? the 99vr4 was $44k the supra and the rest of the jap super cars were in that same price class. And just to poke a few more holes in your theroy: 1) If Stealth sales were stopped for any reason other that slow sales, why did kill it in 96 and not 99 like the vr4? 2) Why put turbos on the 350z when its making almost 300 hp with out turbos. The 96 300z was making 300hp with turbos. They did not add turbos becasue the car did not need them. If I feel the need to make you look even dumber I'll post mroe after I get back from lunch. Oh, and was this GM your quoting the GM of an american auto dealer? 93tt 08-02-2004, 03:36 PM OK here goes..... The "average import tuner kiddie" as you put it, can obviously afford a $30k Evo or STI in your world.(they are selling great by the way) I never said I was speaking directly about the Stealth, but the "big boys" in general. Let me READ.....yep those were my words. And the Stealth was probably stopped earlier because it was less popular than the rest.....it still is! The biggest complaint about the 350z is that no one can run a good turbo kit on it without blowing the engine. The biggest complaint in the tuner community about the rx8 is that it is underpowered. And any tuner or enthusiast would rather have an older GSX, GST, or TSI than a new Mitsu Eclipse V6 for performance! Oh and I guess the new Supra that will have a starting sticker price of between $60- 80K is using a Lexus V8 to keep costs down for the average tuner. Dude thanks for all the info and feel free to make me feel dumber when you get back...I guess they say everyone needs a good cry once in a while[X(] Seriously though thanks for the debate:D alan92rttt 08-02-2004, 04:59 PM Debate, its like talking to a brick wall. Your argument makes no sense and is totally illogical, why say no Turbo'd cars and yet allow v8's with 2-3 times the HP? Why only limit the JAP makers to not having Turbo'd cars? Why only have the Jap car makers abide by the 4 door+rear seat for a turbo rule? How is it that you and this mystery GM are the only people on the face of the earth that believe this? Why is it that there is not a single mention of this anywhere on the internet? Your argument is flawed. 93tt 08-02-2004, 06:58 PM ok I was trying to lighten things up, but obviosly your not only incapable of reading entire paragraphs your also pretty damn uptight! (probably the frustration of feeling wrong....I don't know?? Once again here we go... First there are no v8 cars made by a Japanese manufactuer that are 2-3 times the hp of the turbos we are speaking of ie. the supra tt is 320hp factory who makes the 960hp car you are speaking of???????????? Second, the Japanese Manufactured cars competed price wise with the vettes, etc... Porsche and the others are "high end" sports cars that sell for $60k to $200k plus! They are not competition!! You know what your week a#$ arguments aren't worth my time any more have a great one and remember to always read everything before speaking. alan92rttt 08-02-2004, 07:13 PM Gee, so 2-3 times was an exaggeration but ignore that. Your claim that the Turbo'd 6's are banned is silly. Why allow even a 300hp v8 or v6 what's the functional difference? Why only restrict the jap market? Why not restrict any of the European auto makers? Why require 4 doors? Hell don't answer why just provide one bit of proof. Find a page on the internet (that you did not make) that says anything close to this. Hell be brave and go post this to the general forum of www.3si.org or supraforums.com your probably to afraid to do that. I think it would be funny to see how stupid they'd make you look. 93tt 08-02-2004, 08:22 PM Listen , I already adressed the question why not the other countries........once again read..........furthermore I don't know 100% if it's right or not because I have not researched it anymore than you have. I got this information from the manager of a Mitsubishi Dealer which without researching the matter in my opinion knows more that I do. Man I'm right I'm wrong either way I don't care. I own two fast cars, have a great wife, cool dogs, about the only thing I don't have is the time to keep going back and forth with someone like you who takes all this way to seriously!!! Have a good one. thestealth 08-03-2004, 02:34 PM ORIGINAL: 93tt I got this information from the manager of a Mitsubishi Dealer which without researching the matter in my opinion knows more that I do. Well hell, since it is an opinion debate.;) I wouldn't trust a Dealer further than I could throw him..but. Some of what you say sort of passes the B.S. test, as there haven't been any turbos v-6s since 99 from japan. The RX-7 did not have a v6 so how was it banned? I think that the jap sports cars just got to damn expensive for the performance (stock), when a Mustang, Camaro, and Vette all had similar to better performance for equal or less money. That is what killed them. Also they all seemed to get away from the TT motors because all that add is more things to break. With the 350z it has almost as much power NA as the 300z had with TT, why add more stuff to break when the same performance (or near) can be had with an NA motor. Again this is all just my opinion as I have not researched (and won't) this. 93tt 08-03-2004, 04:19 PM I hear you....of course you could always say the rx7 falls under the 2 door issue. thestealth 08-03-2004, 04:26 PM 2 doors, dang it, I knew I forgot something:). I still don't see how the US could specifically stop the Japanese manufactures from bringing over their cars while letting the Europeans bring over whatever they want. It just doesn't make sense. 93tt 08-03-2004, 04:29 PM Again, all I can think of is that the German cars are way to expensive to be considered a threat or competition? mitsustealthcross 08-28-2004, 05:02 AM I want a stealth so bad. My dream is to buy a 91 or 92 stealth and drop a new engine in it. I'm deffinately going with the twin turbo but should I get the mitsu engine or the dodge engine? 93tt 08-28-2004, 11:04 AM That is completely you decision depending on preference, if interested I have my 91 RT/TT AWD for sale..LMK http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/sallad/s3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/sallad/s2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/sallad/s1.jpg thestealth 08-28-2004, 04:33 PM ORIGINAL: mitsustealthcross I want a stealth so bad. My dream is to buy a 91 or 92 stealth and drop a new engine in it. I'm deffinately going with the twin turbo but should I get the mitsu engine or the dodge engine? They are the same engine, 6G72. The Mitsu 3000GT and Dodge Stealth are the same cars other than a few cosmetic changes. So no matter which one you get, you will get a Mitsu engine. |