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Need help deciding on accessories - 2/23/2006 11:27:18 PM   
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At some point, probably after I get my tax return, I'll be shopping for some truck stuff. I can't seem to make up my mind on what would be most useful for me.

Right now some times I want a bed cover, a back rack headache rack and a truck box. I will be using the truck to tow my Neon to the dragway, and will be carrying a canoe from time to time (sometimes up to 250 miles).

I think the truck box is out just because it'd eat up too much bed space and it'd make the hooks on the bottom of the bed pretty much useless. I really like the headache rack (especially the back rack brand) because of the ability to rest the canoe up there and it gives me a higher tie down point for bigger stuff (coulda used it when moving some taller pieces of furniture).

Anyone know if you can use a bed cover with the headache rack? I'm thinking that is my best route right now.

Yeah, so anyone got any input?

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RE: Need help deciding on accessories - 2/23/2006 11:37:35 PM   
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I know its not on ur list but I think a brush guard would be nice.......look at my sig, they look quite nice.




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RE: Need help deciding on accessories - 2/24/2006 12:37:02 AM   
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quote:

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I know its not on ur list but I think a brush guard would be nice.......look at my sig, they look quite nice


Eh. They aren't my cup of tea. Personally, I do not like the way they look. Also, I'm only thinking about the other stuff because it would be useful to me.

In regards to my bumper, I could see my self painting it some day since I have the lame plastic SXT front bumper.

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RE: Need help deciding on accessories - 3/2/2006 4:14:53 PM   
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Have a tool box in mine and it doesn't hinder my use of the bed tie downs. Just depends on the type of box. Mine is a in bed box, not rail to rail. At the same time though, you can even mount new tie downs on the toolbox to replace the ones in the bed. You're talking of carrying a canoe, have you thought of getting something like a ladder rack to put on it. Here is a link I found that has a variety of them.

Ladder Racks

Here is another link to one that I think you'd really be interested in.

The Rack Warehouse

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off topic reply - 3/3/2006 11:10:31 AM   
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I see your profile pic has the IBEW decal im assuming your in the biz what do ya do? I only ask cause I am a sorta first year apprentice in the wireman position. I would be a second going on third year but got deployed with the Nat. Guard for 16 mo.

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RE: off topic reply - 3/3/2006 12:32:25 PM   
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quote:

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Have a tool box in mine and it doesn't hinder my use of the bed tie downs. Just depends on the type of box. Mine is a in bed box, not rail to rail. At the same time though, you can even mount new tie downs on the toolbox to replace the ones in the bed. You're talking of carrying a canoe, have you thought of getting something like a ladder rack to put on it. Here is a link I found that has a variety of them.


Thanks for the links. I don't want a full ladder rack (I'm being very picky, I know). I did find a neat little thing that plugged into the receiver so you can rest the canoe / ladder on that and the rest on a headache rack by the cab. I think that may be the way I go.


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I see your profile pic has the IBEW decal im assuming your in the biz what do ya do? I only ask cause I am a sorta first year apprentice in the wireman position. I would be a second going on third year but got deployed with the Nat. Guard for 16 mo.


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RE: off topic reply - 3/3/2006 1:10:30 PM   
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I was trying to find one I know of you'r probably like, but the company that I know was selling them isn't selling them anymore. It's called a Rail-N-Rack. It folds up to become a ladder rack and folds down into bed rails when not in use. Here is the link where they use to be. They still have a pic of it, just don't carry it.

www.pickupspecialties.com/railnrack.htm

Have to do a copy/paste. Couldn't get the link button to work. Good idea and I've seen what you are talking about. There is another one that goes in the anchor holes on the bed like that. (Just one side and slightly angled) I was thinking of that one, that way you'd be able to tow at the same time if you needed, but couldn't find one to show you. Only thing I'd watch with your idea is you might have to add a second rail across the top of your headache rack so your canoe doesn't scratch your roof. Most headache racks just go flush with roof line.

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RE: off topic reply - 3/3/2006 5:05:07 PM   
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I hadn't thought of the fact that the headache that I'm looking is flush with the roofline. I'm sure I could bolt a couple of lengths of 2x4's to the top though. I don't haul the canoe around enough to warrant that folding ladder rack thing.

To shift the topic a little, I noticed you have a CB radio as well. I was looking into getting one since I travel to NJ ALOT (my gf lives down there). Any suggestions there?

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RE: off topic reply - 3/5/2006 7:23:08 AM   
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As for a CB radio, yes, I can definatly point you in the right direction. What exactly are your intentions with it. Depending on how far you want to get out with it and things like this will determine wich set up would work best for you.

Right from the start though, I will only recommend one brand of antenna to use. It is Wilson. The have different versions for mounting and power applications.

CB radio's are a lot like stereo's in your truck. They have to be set up right for them to work right. A lot of people think they can just throw an antenna on the roof and plug a radio into the cigarette lighter and have a talking CB. WRONG. It can get just as expensive to put a good CB system in your truck as it costs to put a stereo in depending on how serious of a talker you want to be on it.

Let me know your interests in the matters mentioned above and I'll recommend a good system for you.

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RE: off topic reply - 3/5/2006 11:30:41 AM   
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I certainly don't want anything hardcore. In my sometimes childish mind I just think it would be nice to be able to mostly listen to the truckers chatter and maybe now and then ask one if I can tuck in behind him. Just general chatter really, road conditions, if there's any police, etc, etc.

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RE: off topic reply - 3/5/2006 3:21:07 PM   
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Well that does narrow the type of radio down. I would look at getting a radio like a Uniden pc76 or pc 78, a cobra 29 (lt, classic, etc) the smaller ones like the Cobra 19 DX, and silmilar radios in size you wouldn't like, for there capabilities are very low.

As for the antenna, obviously a Wilson. I can specify better if I know how you want to mount it, i.e. on the roof, in the bed, from the hood, off a mirror, and if you want magnetic or hard mounted etc... Depending on the vehicle accessories, some applications will not work.

On the average, you could get one of these set ups above for around $160-$180. This would not include some mounts for the antenna (depending on mount style) and coax for the radio. Some additional 14 or 16 guage wire could also be needed to wire in the radio, All of this is fairly in expensive though. i.e. coax, $10 or $15 bucks.

I can also help you tune the radio you get for maximum DX/RX.

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Leather
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RE: off topic reply - 3/5/2006 7:28:55 PM   
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Well that does narrow the type of radio down. I would look at getting a radio like a Uniden pc76 or pc 78, a cobra 29 (lt, classic, etc) the smaller ones like the Cobra 19 DX, and silmilar radios in size you wouldn't like, for there capabilities are very low.

As for the antenna, obviously a Wilson. I can specify better if I know how you want to mount it, i.e. on the roof, in the bed, from the hood, off a mirror, and if you want magnetic or hard mounted etc... Depending on the vehicle accessories, some applications will not work.

On the average, you could get one of these set ups above for around $160-$180. This would not include some mounts for the antenna (depending on mount style) and coax for the radio. Some additional 14 or 16 guage wire could also be needed to wire in the radio, All of this is fairly in expensive though. i.e. coax, $10 or $15 bucks.

I can also help you tune the radio you get for maximum DX/RX.


I will look into those models you listed. For the antenna, I'd either want a magnet mount or if I hard mounted it I'd probably do it to whatever headache rack I get. I really don't want to hard mount anything to the truck itself. The coax won't be a problem, I can get that for nothing.

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1988 Dodge Grand Caravan - 17.6 @76
1995 Dodge Neon sedan - gutted and loud
2003 Dodge Dakota club cab - global warmer
1998 Dodge Neon sedan - sister's car

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RE: off topic reply - 3/5/2006 11:17:02 PM   
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For the antenna you want to run, remember the most important thing will be to make sure the center load is above the highest point of your vehicle. If you do go with the magnetic mount, do NOT put cloth under it to protect your paint. The magnet is how the antenna makes its ground. Usually they come with a protector on the bootom of the mount for that.

If this is still the way you want to go, I would purchase a Wilson 1000 magnetic mount. It will already come with the coaxial hooked up to it. It comes with 18' of it. Do not cut it. If you have excess, tuck it away somewhere. Use either big circles or zig zags. Any other way will effect the swr's. The first link below will take you directly to Wilson and tell you in more detail about the antenna.

Wilson

The next link takes you where you can buy one. Most sell around $65+ in stores. Here is one a little cheaper.

Wilson Roof Antenna

This third link is also at Kollman Radio. Like the first 8 items should be Cobra radios that would work good for you. If you have any ?'s about any of them let me know. If the link doesn't work, use the one above and on the left side of the screen click cb radios. The cobra's I'm talking about should pop up first.

Cobra Radios

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Infinity Sound System
Leather
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RE: off topic reply - 3/6/2006 11:39:55 AM   
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Wow, I must say, this is more involved than I thought it would be. I figured a CB install would be similar to a cd deck. It doesn't sound impossible, just very tedious.

Thanks for the info thus far. As far as specific features are there certain things to look for? Or certain standards? I honestly don't really know what most of the abbreviations stand for.

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1988 Dodge Grand Caravan - 17.6 @76
1995 Dodge Neon sedan - gutted and loud
2003 Dodge Dakota club cab - global warmer
1998 Dodge Neon sedan - sister's car

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RE: off topic reply - 3/6/2006 12:49:09 PM   
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If you're just looking to listen in to the local traffic, you can get away with a relatively inexpensive setup. Back when I was in high school I had a marine CB with a Radio Shack magnet mount antenna and my buddies had similar setups that worked fine for a game of CB tag. None of us knew anything about tuning the antenna and yet it still worked. I'm quite sure that if we had optimized our stuff it would have worked better, but we were still able to pick up traffic in foreign languages anyway. Right now I'm sort of searching for a bracket that will work well with the Dakota and not require a big hole to be cut into the sheet metal. I'm probably going to end up mounting it on my Yakima rack and figuring out what to do with the ground.

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