RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram?
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 2/9/2007 1:39:52 PM
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Dakota_24
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This again comes to the point that all automobile publications are in bed with the Asian auto market. That is why I dont follow ratings one bit. I make my own judgements on products and never let anyone or thing sway me. I have never had any major problem with Chrysler products whatsoever. No one can tell me that any Asian made vehicle is made any better than any of the domestic brands; I know better. My aunt bought a brand new Honda Civic a couple of years ago and has had the tranny worked on several times, but she still swears its the best car she's ever driven. The thing is before the Civic she owned a Dodge Neon; she nit-picked every damn thing that was wrong with it. Every little squeel, thud, or bump; she complained. Thats what bugs me; people who've had probs with any domestic car are quick to go Asian, but when they have the same or as many probs with their "better" Asian car; they still swear on the product. Why can't people do the same with the Domestics?
I assume you have proof that "all automobile publications are in bed with the Asian auto market"? If Carlos Mencia read this post you would get a Dee Dee Dee Award. If the car magazines are in bed with the Asian auto market, then why did the Siverado win Truck of the Year? Ohhh...wait...I got it...is it because the Silverado is more Asian than the Tundra? I mean, the Tundra was designed here, is built here and contains more American made parts than any other half ton truck on the market (fact...look it up). Interesting...the Silverado wins because it is potentially more Asian than the Toyota. I see your point now! It's all a conspiracy. The Asians must have auto mechanics in their pockets too, because I don't know a mechanic that won't recommend a Honda or Toyota over a domestic vehicle for reliability.
First off; the proof is in the pudding! When you go to the news stand and pick up C&D, MW, MT or read it on the internet, about 80% of that publication is some sort of praise of most of the new Asian cars in the market..Boy; you don't read much do you?
The Chevy Silverado is "Truck of The Year" simply because its the new design, and the first newly designed truck announced. The Tundra hadnt been announced yet. This happens every year with every redesigned car, or truck. Gawd; I guess the Asians have brainwashed ya, because you are blind to everything around ya!
And lastly; You'd get the "Dee, Dee, Dee" award; because its as night, and day. The proof is right in front of your face and you are numb too it!
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 2/9/2007 1:42:02 PM
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A lot of those automotive publications, like Dakota_24 said, are in bed with Asian automotive makers.
They over-emphasise the falsely high Asian reliability ratings, and than state the American made products are pieces of crap.
Toyota covered up lots of recalls. If it would have been an American auto company, we would have heard about this for years. Since it was Toyota, it was a "we'll right an article on this, and than forget about it tommorow" thing.
Toyota and Nissian build a crappy truck, and nothing gets talked about. An American truck has a few problems, and it haunts the model for the next few years.
A problem pops up in Jap crap cars, and the problem is "small, probably doesn't effect your car" (even if it is, really, wide spread). A small problem pops up in American cars, and they tell you, "should have bought Asian."
Also, I agree with Dakota_24. People probably aren't as knit-picky with Asian cars as with American cars, because they are so convinced that Asian cars are better.
I've stopped listening to those supposed reliability ratings a long time ago and went along with instinct: American vehicles rule.
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 2/9/2007 3:21:57 PM
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A lot of those automotive publications, like Dakota_24 said, are in bed with Asian automotive makers.
They over-emphasise the falsely high Asian reliability ratings, and than state the American made products are pieces of crap.
Toyota covered up lots of recalls. If it would have been an American auto company, we would have heard about this for years. Since it was Toyota, it was a "we'll right an article on this, and than forget about it tommorow" thing.
Toyota and Nissian build a crappy truck, and nothing gets talked about. An American truck has a few problems, and it haunts the model for the next few years.
A problem pops up in Jap crap cars, and the problem is "small, probably doesn't effect your car" (even if it is, really, wide spread). A small problem pops up in American cars, and they tell you, "should have bought Asian."
Also, I agree with Dakota_24. People probably aren't as knit-picky with Asian cars as with American cars, because they are so convinced that Asian cars are better.
I've stopped listening to those supposed reliability ratings a long time ago and went along with instinct: American vehicles rule.
...and the UFO that crashed in Roswell was made by Honda...shhh...the government doesn't want us to know about this! It's a conspiracy!
If the auto magazines are biased towards Japanese cars, as you say...why would that be? Are the magazine editors a bunch of anti-American communists who are trying to destroy our economy?
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 2/9/2007 4:10:59 PM
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Dakota_24
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A lot of those automotive publications, like Dakota_24 said, are in bed with Asian automotive makers.
They over-emphasise the falsely high Asian reliability ratings, and than state the American made products are pieces of crap.
Toyota covered up lots of recalls. If it would have been an American auto company, we would have heard about this for years. Since it was Toyota, it was a "we'll right an article on this, and than forget about it tommorow" thing.
Toyota and Nissian build a crappy truck, and nothing gets talked about. An American truck has a few problems, and it haunts the model for the next few years.
A problem pops up in Jap crap cars, and the problem is "small, probably doesn't effect your car" (even if it is, really, wide spread). A small problem pops up in American cars, and they tell you, "should have bought Asian."
Also, I agree with Dakota_24. People probably aren't as knit-picky with Asian cars as with American cars, because they are so convinced that Asian cars are better.
I've stopped listening to those supposed reliability ratings a long time ago and went along with instinct: American vehicles rule.
...and the UFO that crashed in Roswell was made by Honda...shhh...the government doesn't want us to know about this! It's a conspiracy!
If the auto magazines are biased towards Japanese cars, as you say...why would that be? Are the magazine editors a bunch of anti-American communists who are trying to destroy our economy?
First off....WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING??? Second...BECAUSE THEY ARE IDIOTS AND ARE PAID TOO!! and Third... DING, DING, DING, DING!!! What do we have for this contestant? How about a copy of the favorite song from the classic movie The Wizard of Oz: "If I Only Had A Brain"; Sung by the Scare Crow!!!!
What do you think Dodgerules86??
< Message edited by Dakota_24 -- 2/9/2007 4:36:28 PM >
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 2/9/2007 6:55:00 PM
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Lmurray
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A lot of those automotive publications, like Dakota_24 said, are in bed with Asian automotive makers.
They over-emphasise the falsely high Asian reliability ratings, and than state the American made products are pieces of crap.
Toyota covered up lots of recalls. If it would have been an American auto company, we would have heard about this for years. Since it was Toyota, it was a "we'll right an article on this, and than forget about it tommorow" thing.
Toyota and Nissian build a crappy truck, and nothing gets talked about. An American truck has a few problems, and it haunts the model for the next few years.
A problem pops up in Jap crap cars, and the problem is "small, probably doesn't effect your car" (even if it is, really, wide spread). A small problem pops up in American cars, and they tell you, "should have bought Asian."
Also, I agree with Dakota_24. People probably aren't as knit-picky with Asian cars as with American cars, because they are so convinced that Asian cars are better.
I've stopped listening to those supposed reliability ratings a long time ago and went along with instinct: American vehicles rule.
...and the UFO that crashed in Roswell was made by Honda...shhh...the government doesn't want us to know about this! It's a conspiracy!
If the auto magazines are biased towards Japanese cars, as you say...why would that be? Are the magazine editors a bunch of anti-American communists who are trying to destroy our economy?
First off....WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING??? Second...BECAUSE THEY ARE IDIOTS AND ARE PAID TOO!! and Third... DING, DING, DING, DING!!! What do we have for this contestant? How about a copy of the favorite song from the classic movie The Wizard of Oz: "If I Only Had A Brain"; Sung by the Scare Crow!!!!
What do you think Dodgerules86??
Wow...brilliant post. So, again...what proof do have that they are "paid"?
Anyway, I'm sure that you can get Dodgerules86 to team up with you. I mean, if two idiots make the same groundless statement then it must be true, right?
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 2/9/2007 7:41:24 PM
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...and the UFO that crashed in Roswell was made by Honda...shhh...the government doesn't want us to know about this! It's a conspiracy!
Interesting theory...but seeing as how the UFO broke down and crashed, it was more then likely made by Ford. No seriously, your very funny, I've found great humor from your previous posts so please continue.
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 2/9/2007 9:58:55 PM
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Lmurray
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...and the UFO that crashed in Roswell was made by Honda...shhh...the government doesn't want us to know about this! It's a conspiracy!
Interesting theory...but seeing as how the UFO broke down and crashed, it was more then likely made by Ford. No seriously, your very funny, I've found great humor from your previous posts so please continue.
Dude, I am not trying to be funny. I'm trying to make a point that if domestic auto makers can't make a product that is as well built as the competition, I am not going to buy one...and judging by Toyota's sales numbers, I'm not alone.
By the way, when I buy a 2007 Tundra I am buying a truck that is more American than any other half ton on the market. And while the parent company may be Japanese, I don't see how that's much different than German. I mean, they were both sworn enemies in WWII... :o)
I've been driving Chrysler SUV's for years, and I am sick of giving my money to them simply because they are AMERICAN. Not anymore...they're GERMAN.
F that.
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 2/12/2007 7:58:55 AM
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ACHTUNG!!!
Oh, sorry, as a DCX emp., I figured I would show all I know about being German. Lol.
Hey, have fun with your toy, I hope it fits under your bridge, gotta go ... trip, trop, trip, trop, trip, trop.
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