RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram?
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 8/28/2006 4:16:52 AM
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dodgerules86
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ORIGINAL: Lmurray Besides, everyone is saying that the Tundra is just a copy of the Ram, thus the title of this thread "2008 Toyota Ram", so calling the Tundra ugly sort of works against your argument, doesn't it? We say the Tundra stole the looks of the Ram, but made it ugly. quote:
ORIGINAL: deranged Steal a design and make it ugly! That takes some real talent there! They took the Ram and f&%^ed it up! quote:
ORIGINAL: jdcovert Ya, that's pretty pathetic. It's looks like a Laramie Ram (a hideous one). It's got the same front bumper style. Stinkin Japs!!
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 8/29/2006 2:24:16 AM
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Midnight
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Freightliner/Dodge Ram = same company.... DaimlerChrysler.... Toyota did not just take the fist look from the ram... Give it up... They tried to make their own Ram and it didn't work out...
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 8/29/2006 1:56:41 PM
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Kensai
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I think it all balances out in the long run as far as cost is concerned. You pay more for for a toyota brand, and it will run longer before problems arise. But when the problem does arise, it will cost you two arms, two legs, your wife, and kids to get it fixed in some cases. When you buy domestic brand, sure, it is cheaper, things do go wrong, but it is way cheaper to fix and you get to keep your arms, legs, wife and kids to get it fixed in some cases. All in all, all auto manufacturers have at least a 3-5 year bumper to bumper warranty that will cover most of these could be mortage payment repairs. It's looking long term if you want to keep your ride after the warranty period that you can actually compare cost. Imports can cost as much as 2-3 times or more to fix than domestics for a single repair job, no doubt about it. Who cares about recalls and such, it's free, just cost you a little of your time to get it into the shop to get it fixed. No single maker is perfect. Everyone has its flaws. The big 3 has more recalls because of its overall total vehicles it builds is problaby 10 times more than the imports. So if you compare total vehicles built vs recalls ratios, the domestics and imports are problaby on par with each other. All in all, when it comes to full size trucks, the big 3 has been in the game since the birth of autos. You still see the big 3 trucks out on the road that are 30 or more years old and and still running! Mainly the truck buyers are farmers and and construction workers. When they buy trucks, its for the long haul way after the warranty expires. They know what trucks will last and last and last. Import makers are just getting their tires wet and trying to force their way in and overtake the big 3 by using their known reputations for reliability. They haven't proved "Reliability" yet as Toyota and Nissan are still new to this market. Granted, their compact trucks are well known but we will wait and see how their big brother trucks stand out in the long term like 15 to 20 years from now. Also, most full size trucks people buy for longevity are the heavy duty 2500-3500 class. Toyota nor Nissan or any import has touched this segment yet.
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 8/29/2006 3:34:26 PM
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shadowviper
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what is the HP for the 5.7 in the new tundra............we know its going be more then 345..or mabey not
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 8/29/2006 7:32:30 PM
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Midnight
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ORIGINAL: Lmurray Hino/Toyota = same company...not many people know that Toyota makes these trucks, and the resemblance to the new Tundra is obvious. Hino Trucks made by Toyota Thumbnail Image
Only thing I see is the fist shape and the headlights... Like I said, they took more than that from the Ram...
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RE: The 2008 Toyota Ram? - 8/29/2006 8:03:53 PM
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Lmurray
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Well, the looks of any truck is totally subjective. I read on another board that people thought that the Ram was ugly. I don't agree, but there's no question that there's an ass for every seat. Some people actually buy the Pontiac Aztec and Honda Element! Yuk! Even though I am likely going to buy a Tundra (pending a test drive) I still think the Ram is the best looking truck on the road. I don't care for the tail lights on the new Tundra, and the rear window is too small. However, unlike a few of those that have posted in this thread, I have had great luck with Toyotas over the years. I am looking forward to a Toyota truck that can accomodate my job, my family and my weekend boating. Even my 5.9l Durango struggles towing the boat up hills, and that gets old quick. Kensai's post is right on, and Midnight...I do not argue your point that the Tundra has definitely borrowed some styling cues from the Ram. But, as I said, I think that's a compliment to the Ram. What better looking truck to resemble? However, both trucks are designed to look like a big ol' badass semi rig because people associate big rigs with mostrous power and longevity.
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