is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins powered power wagon?
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is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins powere... - 12/20/2005 8:29:29 AM
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cjwr
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I'm looking into getting a power wagon, but i don't like the mpg they get all that much. i figure that if it had a cummins it would get better mpg. i've heard that dodge is working on one, and was going to wait if it is true. thanks for any info you can give me.
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RE: is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins po... - 12/20/2005 9:27:21 AM
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lowcountry
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That would be a heavy beast, a beautiful but heavy beast. I am also curious about this.
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RE: is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins po... - 12/20/2005 9:43:55 AM
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Drew
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VERY doubtfull one will ever come out.
the 4.56 final gear is WAY to high for the cummins. infact the 4.10's I have run a bit high for my likeing. 70mph = 2300rpm. 4.56 would mean about 27-2900rpm. just too high and runs into the upper end of the engine since it defuels(governs) at 3200rpm.
the front frame where the winch sits would mean the intercooler and the radiator would either have to be shortened, or the mount moved more forward to house the winch.
the Cummins tips the scale at nearly 1000 pounds. the hemi is only about 570pounds. if I was going hard core mudding I would choose the hemi. even I have problems with the front end of my truck sinking like an anchor and I am no where near the soft stuff.
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RE: is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins po... - 12/21/2005 7:39:28 AM
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cjwr
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VERY doubtfull one will ever come out.
the 4.56 final gear is WAY to high for the cummins. infact the 4.10's I have run a bit high for my likeing. 70mph = 2300rpm. 4.56 would mean about 27-2900rpm. just too high and runs into the upper end of the engine since it defuels(governs) at 3200rpm.
the front frame where the winch sits would mean the intercooler and the radiator would either have to be shortened, or the mount moved more forward to house the winch.
the Cummins tips the scale at nearly 1000 pounds. the hemi is only about 570pounds. if I was going hard core mudding I would choose the hemi. even I have problems with the front end of my truck sinking like an anchor and I am no where near the soft stuff.
wow, i didn't know all of that, guess i'll have to get the hemi, thanks.
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RE: is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins po... - 1/16/2008 9:09:11 AM
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Ours has a 6-speed manual and at 70mph it is turning 2700rpm with a hemi. At 55 it is 2100rpm. First tank 6-8 mpg. @ 1300 miles-10-12 mpg. At 3000miles will switch to Royal Purple full synt. 5-20 and hopefully get a few more mpg. It came with synt. oil in f&r diff, trans,&trans. case from factory.
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RE: is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins po... - 1/16/2008 11:44:35 PM
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Kev_n_AZ
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why is this thread HERE and not in the CUMMINS section????
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RE: is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins po... - 1/17/2008 4:29:15 AM
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Drew
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Kevin. . .youre just barking at the end of your chain right now
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RE: is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins po... - 1/17/2008 7:36:20 AM
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this is three gens up from you there buddy!! but the powerwagon is made to be an off road rig a cummins is made to be a work horse... If it werent for the weight and stuff the cummins would be great off road....
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RE: is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins po... - 1/19/2008 8:32:44 PM
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ORIGINAL: cjwr
I'm looking into getting a power wagon, but i don't like the mpg they get all that much. i figure that if it had a cummins it would get better mpg. i've heard that dodge is working on one, and was going to wait if it is true. thanks for any info you can give me.
Booth trucks empty, hemi and ctd are pretty close in mileage, one real down fall of a diesel 4x4 is they have too much torque, when a diesel truck is stuck, they dig thier own grave unless you get traction, and that extra whieght makes a stuck diesel harder to pull out + assending desending, driving side ways is harder due to the extra lbs
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RE: is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins po... - 1/26/2008 11:56:55 AM
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Abqhemi
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i heard that dodge will never but cummins in a power wagon b/c its just WAY to might weight and WAYYY to much power. They said that the drive train and everything just could not hold up. You would just twist, snap, bin, sink.
How is a powerwagons drivetrain different from a regular 2500 drivetrain? I don't see anything different between the two?
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RE: is it true that dodge is going to make a cummins po... - 1/26/2008 3:42:57 PM
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Lets see: It has a softer riding , long travel suspension. It sits about 2" higher than a reg 2500. It has the larger diameter 1 ton axelshafts.Bilstein long travel shocks. An electronic disconnecting swaybar that increases articulation by 9". The axel tubes are thicker.The pumpkins have more steel and are reinforced. The axels have electric lockers. The transfer case in low range causes the gas pedal to be less sensitive for rough terrain. That does not count the 12,000lb warn winch-full skid plating underneath-one piece Alcoa forged rims w/inernal beadlock. Hope this helps.
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