RE: I could get a free 87 Shelby Z.... but...
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RE: I could get a free 87 Shelby Z.... but... - 12/21/2005 4:15:43 PM
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Sanguinius
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Yep I'd be willing to bet that's why you're bro never got full boost.
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RE: I could get a free 87 Shelby Z.... but... - 2/27/2006 9:17:55 AM
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sorny
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Ok, it's been a while but I finally had time to go check the car out some more. Took the battery out of my truck and cranked and cranked and it wouldn't start so I pulled the plugs and cleaned them (sooty black) and it fired right up. Ran awful though. From idle to 2000 rpm it was pouring black smoke worse than a diesel and was kind of backfiring. After 2000-2500rpm's and up it smoothed out and spun up perfect and purred. I wasn't able to drive it because it didn't have the wheels on it yet. I looked at the vacuum hoses and everything and couldn't find anything obviously wrong. I have a Hayne's repair manual but it doesn't help much at ALL and doesn't even have a vacuum hose diagram in it. Anyone know where I can start checking for the poor idle? I played with the timing from one extreme to the other and it didn't help much at all, but that was just changing it on the distributor. I have been trying to think of something that could cause it to run so extremely rich at idle but possibly great at 2500+ RPM's. Of course it didn't build boost because of that tore up turbo hose, but the motor spun up great. I appreciate the help guys.
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RE: I could get a free 87 Shelby Z.... but... - 2/27/2006 7:55:22 PM
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87Indy500
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ORIGINAL: sorny Ok, it's been a while but I finally had time to go check the car out some more. Took the battery out of my truck and cranked and cranked and it wouldn't start so I pulled the plugs and cleaned them (sooty black) and it fired right up. Ran awful though. From idle to 2000 rpm it was pouring black smoke worse than a diesel and was kind of backfiring. After 2000-2500rpm's and up it smoothed out and spun up perfect and purred. I wasn't able to drive it because it didn't have the wheels on it yet. I looked at the vacuum hoses and everything and couldn't find anything obviously wrong. I have a Hayne's repair manual but it doesn't help much at ALL and doesn't even have a vacuum hose diagram in it. Anyone know where I can start checking for the poor idle? I played with the timing from one extreme to the other and it didn't help much at all, but that was just changing it on the distributor. I have been trying to think of something that could cause it to run so extremely rich at idle but possibly great at 2500+ RPM's. Of course it didn't build boost because of that tore up turbo hose, but the motor spun up great. I appreciate the help guys. This may be the carbon monoxide fumes talking, but I would check out your fuel pressure regulator. Sounds to me like it has stopped doing its job causing it to run pig rich. You can test it by disconnecting the return line (smaller dia line) from the regulator and replacing it with a longer hose and run it into a gas container. Have someone start the car and see if there's any fuel going into the container. If not, the regulator is junk and needs replaced. If this is the problem it's probably causing the poor idle characteristics as well..... Good luck!
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RE: I could get a free 87 Shelby Z.... but... - 2/28/2006 9:07:42 AM
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sorny
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Thanks for the tip! Is the regulator on top of the motor, near the injectors? I saw something near the injectors/intake and thought it might be the regulator but wasn't sure and wasn't sure how to test it until now.
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RE: I could get a free 87 Shelby Z.... but... - 2/28/2006 6:53:12 PM
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87Indy500
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ORIGINAL: sorny Thanks for the tip! Is the regulator on top of the motor, near the injectors? I saw something near the injectors/intake and thought it might be the regulator but wasn't sure and wasn't sure how to test it until now. Yes. It's located on the passenger side of the fuel rail. The return line/hose connects directly to it. See HERE
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