I have received word of a supercharged 3.8L V6 ( (aparently 350hp) for grand caravan ) and a 3.2L supercharged V6 ( (330hp) caravan ) And even more kick A$$ is that the Caravan, and GC SRT6 are rwd. Now i dont kno if this is happening soon ( 2007 M.Y ) or when the C/GC get a major face lift due for 09 or 10. Thoughts?

A SRT Minivan....what a waste. Spend your money elsewhere.

250hp would have been great, but I think 350hp is a bit retarded. Does Dodge really need an SRT Minivan? Why not just SRT the Durango, Dakota, Stratus, and Sprinter while you’re at it Dodge.


-Matt-

Check this out. Back in 2002.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/02images/02sema/apc_dodge_grand_caravan.jpg

APC Dodge Grand Caravan Extreme

The APC Dodge Grand Caravan Extreme is a Viper-inspired minivan that combines the performance of a 3.8-liter Vortech supercharged engine with the cargo carrying capability of the original minivan. The APC Minivan Extreme features Viper Red paint with silver Viper-style racing stripes from front to back, vented and louvered hood with functional ram air intake, Viper-style splitter on the lower front fascia and Viper seats on the custom trimmed interior. A profile view highlights unique 19-inch RO-JA wheels and performance tires, PTP dual side exit stainless exhaust and lowered height due to reduced springs and side skirts with integrated side exit exhaust.

That would be one hell of a sleeper, I say why not.

I think it may be a great idea. I know it's odd, but then again, Dodge is always the first to come out with these kinds of things! haha. Dodge was the first to build a minivan, now they can build a high performance minivan! Start a new high performance minivan craze!

Kinds reminds ya back in teh 70's and 80's when they gave those short wheelbase vans a sports appearance and the engines were easily upgradable in performance.

I have seen alot of the import minivans are beefing up their V6's. Like Nissan Quest's 3.5 engine offering 245 HP. I drove one from hertz and am impressed with the performance of that minivan.

When I heard this , it made me want to buy it. It would be a great move. And it would start muscle van wars! I would buy one, practical, powerful , and its a dodge!

That's some major [sm=bs.gif]

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Muscle van wars? Please...

now i WILL have to talk my dad into that one

this would be The only Minivan I would drive

Yeah, it starts out very lame, but when the trend catches on and everyone is accepting it, then it becomes awesome! Look at the 4 door muscle sedans? Muscle wagons? Muscle trucks? Why not Muscle vans?

I think a performance van is great! It has been around for a while with the short wheelbase chevy's and Ford's small block v8 vans back in the 70's and 80's. I still remember those little bubble windows.

ORIGINAL: Kensai

Check this out. Back in 2002.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/02images/02sema/apc_dodge_grand_caravan.jpg

APC Dodge Grand Caravan Extreme

The APC Dodge Grand Caravan Extreme is a Viper-inspired minivan that combines the performance of a 3.8-liter Vortech supercharged engine with the cargo carrying capability of the original minivan. The APC Minivan Extreme features Viper Red paint with silver Viper-style racing stripes from front to back, vented and louvered hood with functional ram air intake, Viper-style splitter on the lower front fascia and Viper seats on the custom trimmed interior. A profile view highlights unique 19-inch RO-JA wheels and performance tires, PTP dual side exit stainless exhaust and lowered height due to reduced springs and side skirts with integrated side exit exhaust.



Ahem. Vortech? A GM motor?

Vortech could be a proposed type of supercharger to be used for Dodge's 3.8 liter engine I presume.

ORIGINAL: Big Ed


ORIGINAL: Kensai

Check this out. Back in 2002.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/02images/02sema/apc_dodge_grand_caravan.jpg

APC Dodge Grand Caravan Extreme

The APC Dodge Grand Caravan Extreme is a Viper-inspired minivan that combines the performance of a 3.8-liter Vortech supercharged engine with the cargo carrying capability of the original minivan. The APC Minivan Extreme features Viper Red paint with silver Viper-style racing stripes from front to back, vented and louvered hood with functional ram air intake, Viper-style splitter on the lower front fascia and Viper seats on the custom trimmed interior. A profile view highlights unique 19-inch RO-JA wheels and performance tires, PTP dual side exit stainless exhaust and lowered height due to reduced springs and side skirts with integrated side exit exhaust.



Ahem. Vortech? A GM motor?


No. Vortech is a separate company from GM that makes superchargers and other things. I'm actually surprised that they were allowed to use that name for their engine line.

ORIGINAL: minichargersx

I have received word of a supercharged 3.8L V6 ( (aparently 350hp) for grand caravan ) and a 3.2L supercharged V6 ( (330hp) caravan ) And even more kick A$$ is that the Caravan, and GC SRT6 are rwd. Now i dont kno if this is happening soon ( 2007 M.Y ) or when the C/GC get a major face lift due for 09 or 10. Thoughts?


This is interesting about 350 hp out of the 3.8L V6 and 330 out of the 3.2 V6 (I assume this is refering to the Mercedes 3.2 in the Crossfire SRT-6). The 3.8 only currently puts out 207 hp (though it previously produced 215) and the 3.2 produces 215 without the supercharger. It must be do to a larger boost from a supercharger or this is a supercharged verson of the Mitsubishi 3.8. I heard back in the early 90s they tried to turbo the 3.8 and put it into the Dodge Dynasty as a cop package and it blew the engine apart. They must have beefed up the engine or something.

For the critics of this idea, think about this principle. When minivans were first made, they had barely 100 hp in them. I'm sure 245 horsepower would have sounded rediculous back then when most preformance minded cars (Camero/Firebird, Corvette, Mustang, etc.)didn't produce that much horsepower or even close. This is called augmented product. When it first comes out, it is not considered expected when you buy the product. As time goes on and people experience it, it becomes expected. Like having having a choice of different colors for your car other than just black. This is a good idea. Just a couple of years ago, no one would have expected a domestic, non-luxury full-sized car to offer 340 hp, let alone 425 hp. Now it will be. Just watch.

This might lead to the Stratus getting one of these two engines, which it is going to need to compete (or hopefully blow away the competition) with the G6, Altima, Mazda 6, and other mid-sized cars that offer more hp. I would prefer to see the 3.8L being installed in the Status. That would even blow the Grand Prix GXP.

think of this logically. they are not going to make a caravan srt-6. come on.

Like HemiMan says, think about it... really......



ORIGINAL: Kensai

Check this out. Back in 2002.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/02images/02sema/apc_dodge_grand_caravan.jpg

APC Dodge Grand Caravan Extreme

The APC Dodge Grand Caravan Extreme is a Viper-inspired minivan that combines the performance of a 3.8-liter Vortech supercharged engine with the cargo carrying capability of the original minivan. The APC Minivan Extreme features Viper Red paint with silver Viper-style racing stripes from front to back, vented and louvered hood with functional ram air intake, Viper-style splitter on the lower front fascia and Viper seats on the custom trimmed interior. A profile view highlights unique 19-inch RO-JA wheels and performance tires, PTP dual side exit stainless exhaust and lowered height due to reduced springs and side skirts with integrated side exit exhaust.



That was done individually by the crappy company APC and had no connections with Dodge...

really come on. if they made an srt-6 caravan, why not make an srt sprinter? they wont do it lol.

I could see them doing a very limited production run....say no more then 5000 models.....

There is a slight demand for them, despite what you think... I mean, most men wouldnt be caught dead in a minvan.....but give them the option to outrun a stock mustang in a minivan and I think many of us would take one if we had to....

That said, there's a 95% chance they wont do it....but hey...they did an SRT-8 model wagon.....so a minivan isnt that MUCH of a stretch....not to mention an SRT-4 motored PT Cruiser....

ORIGINAL: DevilsReject

I could see them doing a very limited production run....say no more then 5000 models.....

There is a slight demand for them, despite what you think... I mean, most men wouldnt be caught dead in a minvan.....but give them the option to outrun a stock mustang in a minivan and I think many of us would take one if we had to....

That said, there's a 95% chance they wont do it....but hey...they did an SRT-8 model wagon.....so a minivan isnt that MUCH of a stretch....not to mention an SRT-4 motored PT Cruiser....


Key words there are "if we HAD to". Which is another reason why I think this rumor is false.

HEMI powered wagon = awesome. SRT-4 powered PT = awesome.

SRT-6 minivan = stupid.

Big difference there...

I see no difference here between an srt minivan, and an srt magnum. They are both just station wagons people. Nobody is asking for this, so dc just might put one out. They keep answering questions nobody is asking lately!

Joe

ORIGINAL: MidnightBlueNeon


ORIGINAL: DevilsReject

I could see them doing a very limited production run....say no more then 5000 models.....

There is a slight demand for them, despite what you think... I mean, most men wouldnt be caught dead in a minvan.....but give them the option to outrun a stock mustang in a minivan and I think many of us would take one if we had to....

That said, there's a 95% chance they wont do it....but hey...they did an SRT-8 model wagon.....so a minivan isnt that MUCH of a stretch....not to mention an SRT-4 motored PT Cruiser....


Key words there are "if we HAD to". Which is another reason why I think this rumor is false.

HEMI powered wagon = awesome. SRT-4 powered PT = awesome.

SRT-6 minivan = stupid.

Big difference there...

exactly. this guy is coming up with rumors from nowhere and has no credible information to back it up.

What would be his motive then for sharing false information? I don't think he would waste the time to do it.

SRT-4 powered PT = awesome.

The 'loser cruiser' doesn’t deserve an SRT version. The PT has seen its days however, if there is any large competition between the HHR and the PT then go for it.


-Matt-

The PT Cruiser already got the SRT version, albeit not in the traditional sense.

They offered the turbo'd SRT-4 motor in the PT Cruiser in both the 4dr and 2dr convertible. I actually test drove the convertible turbo model.....it's got some serious pep in it....

ORIGINAL: ViperGTS

What would be his motive then for sharing false information? I don't think he would waste the time to do it.

SRT-4 powered PT = awesome.

The 'loser cruiser' doesn’t deserve an SRT version. The PT has seen its days however, if there is any large competition between the HHR and the PT then go for it.


-Matt-


my point is, where is any proof of these rumors at all? this guy also said dodge is coming out with a "7.2 hemi" to put in the cars that has 4 valves per cylinder. i dunno where he is getting this from, but it sounds like its not true. show me some credible info and then ill believe.

i wanna see some proof to all these claims


i can say i "heard" DC is puttin this engine in this and that engine in that but wheres the proof?

Man! Those vans would receive my endorsement. Somehow I doubt they would be produced, but who knows? lol

I think there would actually be a good market for factory performance minivans. Unlesss I'm mistaken, turbo minivans have quite a cult following down in California. This could be the next big craze! A few years back (before Fast and the Furious), sport compact tuning was the farthest thing from mainstream. Now, there's more sport compact than muscle car magazines. It could happen guys and gals...

i can say i "heard" DC is puttin this engine in this and that engine in that but wheres the proof?

That's where the rumor part of the forum comes in, but I get your point. A little background on this guy. He has a cousin who aparently works at some Dodge plant in Michigan.

http://chryslerforum.com/m_2345/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2468


-Matt-

the vortech thingy, ok, it's not connected to dodge by any means, apc customized it not dodge, i'm just interested in the SRT6 minivan idea

Another point of view, at today's rising gas prices, I'd bet if this Minivan ever get produced, the performance figures would be very comparable to the Magnum but problaby get way better mileage? Plus it can haul more stuff. I'd trade in my Durango R/T for this one in terms of keeping a family hauler and problaby get way better MPG's.

I know for a fact my wife would want one of those.

hummm a van with a more powerful engine.. that is kind of a cool idea. i can see my freinds now HEY MOM>> CAN I TAKE THE VAN? the freinds all like the mini van dude.. yeah look wht its got under the hood.. dude sweet! lol that be so cool..

ORIGINAL: MidnightBlueNeon


ORIGINAL: DevilsReject

I could see them doing a very limited production run....say no more then 5000 models.....

There is a slight demand for them, despite what you think... I mean, most men wouldnt be caught dead in a minvan.....but give them the option to outrun a stock mustang in a minivan and I think many of us would take one if we had to....

That said, there's a 95% chance they wont do it....but hey...they did an SRT-8 model wagon.....so a minivan isnt that MUCH of a stretch....not to mention an SRT-4 motored PT Cruiser....


Key words there are "if we HAD to". Which is another reason why I think this rumor is false.

HEMI powered wagon = awesome. SRT-4 powered PT = awesome.

SRT-6 minivan = stupid.

Big difference there...


We don't know for sure what the next generation Caravan will look like for sure. You never know, it might look cool. Think about it. Not that long ago station wagons were considered to be the most "girly-mobile" by wagons like the Taurus wagon instead of minivans. If Ford some how was able to fit the same exact powertrain that is under the Magnum into the Taurus, it would still be a disgusting vehicle. The thing is station wagons have evolved into cool wagons like the Magnum, and the same company (DC) could do it again with minivans.

Again, it might seem redicilous now but it might be an augmented product. Chrysler might be able to take back the lead in innovation for preformance minivans, like they did with the turbo Caravans.

Back about 1990 or so, they had a turbo version of the Caravan. I knew someone who owned one, but it was just a family van. They had no idea what was under the hood. I know they didn't make very many of them, and it wasn't, despite the "turbo" badge on the front fender, at all fast. The V6 was a better deal, about the same horsepower but a lot more bottom end torque.

But...I'm trying to remember the year...I was out at Chryslers Tech Center in Auburn Hills when it was brand new. We were being ferried about by Bob Lutz hisownself in his personal ride, custom-made of course. It was a Dodge Caravan with the 2.5 four with all the goodies. I'm guessing now that it made about 225 hp or maybe more. Remember, Lutz was the boss, and what the boss wants, the skunkworx boys are happy to gin up. The suspension was fully tweaked as well.

Since he was the boss and a certified jet and helicopter pilot and they were his roads, he flogged that puppy with about five aboard and everyone said, Wow. You gotta build it. But Lutz knew that there was no real market for it. Really, none of us would have bought one, but it would have been fun to play with. No doubt that beastie has long gone to the shredder, but it would have been a lot of fun to drive.

In the near future, you are going to be very surprised what you see the SRT badge on. Just take the Grand Cherokee SRT8 for instance. How much sense does a 425 HP Grand Cherokee make? None at all, but it's bad ass, and that's why Chrysler built it.

The Cherokee SRT-8 makes A LOT of sense....

well, you know what? that still would be great for a V-6 engine

id rather see the 4.0 inline turbocharged like on the skylines...the amount of power they make is just awesome....and id pimp the minivan ;)

i like the turbo minivan's of the late 80's www.turbominivan.com Paul Smith run's 12.65 in the 1/4 in his and Cliff has the record know of 12.56 at 105.67mph :Ddont mess with the minivan lol

The Cherokee SRT-8 makes A LOT of sense....

An offroad vehicle that's lowered, has nice interior, nice rims, a good looking body kit, and no tow hitch. (emphasize offroad vehicle). I get your point though and agree, it makes a lot of sense, but it's how you look at things.


-Matt-

No tow hitch doesn't mean it can't be an off road vehicle. You don't tow things when you're tearing up mud.

Come on... Am I the only one that remembers the old 2.5L turbo Caravans from the late 80's? Swap over a 4-valve head, better turbo, and intercooler, and you have a 12-second soccermommobile... I don't think an SRT-X minivan would be all that bad. It's not like any of the SRT's are built for anything other than straightline numbers anyways. This way, Mommy gets her minivan, and Daddy gets to show off his HP ratings. Not that I'd buy one... :D

ORIGINAL: MidnightBlueNeon

No tow hitch doesn't mean it can't be an off road vehicle. You don't tow things when you're tearing up mud.


A lowered rig ain't gonna make for much of an off roader.

So jack it up...

I'm still waiting for a new category of racing at Daytona...... minivans. Heck, I couldn't believe it when they started doing it with trucks. There's a lot of $$ already invested in racing 4-door luxury sedans (Mercedes and Audi).... I predict minivan racing in the future. You heard it here first. I told my son years ago that I thought this would happen. LOL

You watch.... soccer companies are going to invest tons to have their logos put on the sides of these high performance minivans. Moms are going to line up for miles trying to buy one. Kids will never be late to soccer practices again. Women will swarm the gates of Daytona and Talledega (sp?) to watch their favorite racers (be it women drivers or cute young male drivers). Guys will stop having to argue about justifying the expense of 20" rims. Instead the argument will be which ones to buy... the ones he wants or what the wife wants. Ebay will be bombarded with high performance parts for minivans. Aftermarket parts companies that used to focus on Hondas will convert over to supplying the millions of moms flipping through MiniVan Tuner Magazine which quickly overtakes Sunset Magazine in annual subscription sales.... SEMA will have to expand the buildings to accomodate the new market. Chrysler, Ford and Chevy will make a miraculous comeback, outstripping Toyota and Honda for the first five years. Toyota soon changes the focus of TRD. Mazdaspeed petitions for rule changes to reclassify the Mazda 5 as a minivan......
:D

I think this van looks pretty sharp!

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/14/detroit-2008-dodge-caravan-r-t-concept-spotted/

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