It could be my imagination, but the raider looks to be a Dakota Twin...

Now, why would someone buy a Mitsu over a Dodge.

Kinda like the Isuzu Assender and the Chevy Trailblazer....

It would probably be for the name of Mitsubishi. Since they've been around for so long and most of their vehicles have been pretty reliable.

I agree though, it is a twin of the Dakota.

Its another Dodge-Mitsu joint venture. The new Raider is a rebodied Dakota. Thats why they look alike.

Hmmm..

I don't know about quality.

I have owned 2 Mitsu's. One was very good (galant) and other was a real POS (Montero Sport).

Last I heard, Mitsu USA was on the borderline of going belly up...

The "Mitsubishi" Raider is to the Dakota, like the "Dodge" Stealth was to the Mitsubishi 3000GT. The Raider has the exact same powertrain as the Dakota (3.7 liter base, 4.7 optional; 42RLE for the 3.7, 545RFE for the 4.7-I don't know the names for the manuals-)minus the H.O. version of the 4.7 and a manual for the low-output version of the 4.7 V8. I think the main appeal for the Raider is having the more arrowdynamic styling over the retro-styling of the Dakota, for those who prefer smooth-style over boxier-style.

They are the same electricaly as well.

Mitsubishi is like a joint partner with Dodge, aka leach sucking off profit and Dodge's ideas. It's not a horrible looking truck, but the Dakota is better. Anyone know if the Mitsubishi offers a 4.7 V8?

The Raider has the exact same powertrain as the Dakota (3.7 liter base, 4.7 optional
Nevermind, that answered it.

-Matt-

It's not a leach sucking profit of of dodge's sales, it's actually putting money into DCX's pockets. There are a lot of people who won't buy an american vehicle, so they look at the foreign brands. Now dodge gets a slice of that sale, instead of losing out completely. They're probably lower priced as well, which means people who want a dodge, but can't quite afford it, can pick up the truck, again, putting money into DCX's pockets.

When GM decided to take a WRX wagon and call it a Saab, they were expanding upward. Snobs who wouldn't touch a Subaru were suddenly buying them because they had the Snaab name on them, and paying more for it.

DCX actually owns 50% of Mitsubishi....

There are several Brand idiots in the world, especially in the US. People who wouldnt touch a Chrysler product but would buy a Benz....or people who wouldnt buy a Jetta but would buy a Porsche...

Too many people in the world are concerned with Image rather then results....I'll take a proven vehicle over a hyped one anyday....

I still like the way the dak looks over the Mitsu.

That being said however, I do like the way the interior door panels look in the Mitsu. If all that is different is the "skin" there should be no trouble switching out the door panels, heh?

I have grown to like the newer design of the 'Kota, but you know what's wierd is I am usually slamming on the Jap Mitsu's, but I think I do like the styling of the Raider better than the 'Kota!

Lets put it on record though I still aint jumpin' the boat!

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Mitsubishi is like a joint partner with Dodge, aka leach sucking off profit and Dodge's ideas. It's not a horrible looking truck, but the Dakota is better. Anyone know if the Mitsubishi offers a 4.7 V8?

The Raider has the exact same powertrain as the Dakota (3.7 liter base, 4.7 optional
Nevermind, that answered it.

-Matt-


The 230 hp version is offered, just not the 250 hp H.O. version.

I don't know if it is fair to accuse Mitsubishi of being a "leach" for this. Dodge (and Chrysler divisions) has used some of Mitsubishi's ideas in the past. As I listed earlier, the Stealth was just a reskined 3000GT, the Talon was a reskinned Eclipse (although the second generation had more Chrysler technology and influence to make things more balanced), Ram D50 was a rebadged Raider (the original), the Stratus coupe is a slightly larger version of the 2000-05 Eclipse, etc. I actually prefer to see things this way. I believe Chrysler is capable of making better cars and trucks with better powertrains than Mitsubishi. Which way would you rather have it? Mitsubishi having a truck built for them that is a good, proven truck, or having Dodge get stuck with a rebadged vehicle which is not quite as good (at least in my opinion).

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The 230 hp version is offered, just not the 250 hp H.O. version.

I don't know if it is fair to accuse Mitsubishi of being a "leach" for this. Dodge (and Chrysler divisions) has used some of Mitsubishi's ideas in the past. As I listed earlier, the Stealth was just a reskined 3000GT, the Talon was a reskinned Eclipse (although the second generation had more Chrysler technology and influence to make things more balanced), Ram D50 was a rebadged Raider (the original), the Stratus coupe is a slightly larger version of the 2000-05 Eclipse, etc.



Exactly. Its not like Chrysle hasnt "leeched" off others as you said. The Chrysler Crossfire is nothing more than a rebodied Benz SLK also.

Both Dakota a Raider are built on the Warren Truck Assembly line in Detroit. Both trucks will have the same build quality. But DCX just dumped all the Mitsubishi stock they controlled about a month ago. So who knows what is going to happen to all the shaired vehicles and parts now? Mitsubishi is on its own again...

didnt feel like reading most but im gonna point out that (sorry if someone already said this ) but raider is a dodge name also remember that funky lookin (dont get me wrong it was ok) compact suv thing from the 80 and this wouldnt be the first time remember the d-50 it was either originally dodge or mitsu its hard to tell



as i said sorry if someone already pointed this out

wammy wazzle
kscheffer

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DCX actually owns 50% of Mitsubishi....


This is a nitpick, but no, they don't.

First I have to say that if you step into the "Brand News, Concepts and Rumors" section of this forum, you'd know this already...

This is a joint project between DaimlerChrysler and Mitsubishi, as was the Stealth/3000GT, Stratus/Eclipse, Caliber/Lancer, Galant/Sebring/Avenger and soon will be Caravan/New Mitsu mini-van...

Secondly, DaimlerChrysler doesn't own 50% of Mitsubishi... They own about 14%, including all of the commercial truck division, Fuso. Also, they are actually in the process of selling the 14% back...

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didnt feel like reading most but im gonna point out that (sorry if someone already said this ) but raider is a dodge name also remember that funky lookin (dont get me wrong it was ok) compact suv thing from the 80 and this wouldnt be the first time remember the d-50 it was either originally dodge or mitsu its hard to tell



It was originally a Mitsu product, but Dodge used it.

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DCX actually owns 50% of Mitsubishi....


This is a nitpick, but no, they don't.


Umm it is a nitpick, and yes they did. Once upon a time Dodge did own that much stock in Mitsu. They have since sold most of it. They have a lot of history with Mitsu. My Stratus coupe is practially 90% Mitsubishi.

But currently, as of now, DaimlerChrysler owns 14%, in cluding all of the commercial division Fuso...

I think it's pretty sad that Mitsu has to use a name for a vehicle that has already been used. The Dodge Raider was first, which was a pretty nice suv for the time. Now Mitsu has to go and use it's name cause they can't think of there own names.

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DCX actually owns 50% of Mitsubishi....


This is a nitpick, but no, they don't.


Umm it is a nitpick, and yes they did. Once upon a time Dodge did own that much stock in Mitsu. They have since sold most of it. They have a lot of history with Mitsu. My Stratus coupe is practially 90% Mitsubishi.


Buuuuuut...

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But currently, as of now, DaimlerChrysler owns 14%, in cluding all of the commercial division Fuso...


Exactly. They USED to own alot more before Mitsubishi started sucking HARD.

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Exactly. They USED to own alot more before Mitsubishi started sucking HARD.


You commented on a post from almost 5 months ago.....alot can change...

My bad dude, I didn't notice the date. I'm still not sure if DCx ever owned as much as 50% though... but it really doesn't bother me one way or another.