RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go!
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 10/17/2005 9:53:23 PM
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HemiMan4451
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hell im not upset with DC, i just think the nitro is ugly
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 10/17/2005 10:29:00 PM
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hell im not upset with DC, i just think the nitro is ugly
thats one thing, but when you get pissed at the company because you think its ugly or to many doors or no manuals or no 6.1L ram or w/e the bitch of the day is, that is the problem which is very common here.
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 10/18/2005 11:54:03 AM
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hell im not upset with DC, i just think the nitro is ugly
thats one thing, but when you get pissed at the company because you think its ugly or to many doors or no manuals or no 6.1L ram or w/e the bitch of the day is, that is the problem which is very common here.
Blind loyalty is never a good thing...
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 10/18/2005 1:36:32 PM
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I agree with the blind loyality thing. I don't think anyone should just automatically agree with everything a company does just because their a fan. Everyone should be able to have their own opinions. I think that the Dodge Nitro is one of the uglest vehicals I've ever seen in my life. I don't think that Dodge should be making it. Is this going to make me so pissed off to where I'm going to become a GM fan? No. I just don't think that we should be mindless Dodge robots. We all are fans of Dodge, therefore I'm sure we know a lot about Dodge. With all of this knowledge your going to get different opinions, that something we all have to live with.
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 10/19/2005 7:52:09 PM
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I agree with the blind loyality thing. I don't think anyone should just automatically agree with everything a company does just because their a fan. Everyone should be able to have their own opinions. I think that the Dodge Nitro is one of the uglest vehicals I've ever seen in my life. I don't think that Dodge should be making it. Is this going to make me so pissed off to where I'm going to become a GM fan? No. I just don't think that we should be mindless Dodge robots. We all are fans of Dodge, therefore I'm sure we know a lot about Dodge. With all of this knowledge your going to get different opinions, that something we all have to live with.
you cant jost solely love dodges, and just because you disagree with them on one thing doesnt make you not a fan. i agree.
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 1/1/2006 5:48:01 PM
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you are more of fans of certain cars then the company.
That's a good point Nick and I will have to agree with you.
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X2 I really dont know why they made that though. out of everything they could have done. and i thought the darango was consitered a mid size?
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 1/1/2006 6:37:01 PM
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While the Nitro seems like a wasted effort to me, there must be some market share to be gained in the small suv segment or DCX wouldn't be wasting their time with it. There are a lot of people out there willing to plunk down money for this type of vehicle. I for one want a vehicle that is fun to drive and not one that is the latest fashion statement. But it's the success of vehicles like these that enable companies to take on projects like the Ram or LX platform. I would never have been and still will never be caught dead owning a minivan but do you realize that these were the vehicles that brought Chrysler from the brink of extinction? The Nitro, Liberty,PT and others will enable DCX to build the Challengers of tomorrow! I stuck by Chrysler brands through the K-CAR era so I'm not about to give up on them now! Things are just starting to get exciting again!
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 1/2/2006 3:05:55 AM
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Hey Deranged, those K-cars and their longer than the industry at the time warranties are what brought chrysler back from the brink, hideous though they might have been. Big fan of Lee Iacoca, Big Fan of all American made cars, dodge of course being #1, but when it seems as if a company is making mistakes then to not chime in seems wrong to me. I dont care for the concept myself but I am not in the market for a small SUV either. I want American cars to do better, not worse than the imports and any criticism is meant to be constructive. That said if I am buying a new vehicle (Van, Truck, SUV, Coupe) it will be American Made.
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 1/2/2006 3:51:21 AM
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I completely agree with you angelmav. Opinions help develope things. Allows other to know what is wanted and expected. It helps develope more than destroy.
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 1/2/2006 8:14:06 AM
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being a fan or enthusiast simply means support the company and EVERY car they make no matter how good or bad the models are. you cant compare cars to football. football involves human errors. physical errors. dodges are good no matter what, and just because it doesn't appeal to the self proclaimed group of mopar fans doesn't mean it isn't a true mopar car. It DOES deserve our support, like ti or not.
thats one thing, but when you get pissed at the company because you think its ugly or to many doors or no manuals or no 6.1L ram or w/e the bitch of the day is, that is the problem which is very common here.
Blindly following anyone or anything is complete stupidity. Being a fan has absolutely nothing to do with blind stupidity. If everyone were a fan by your definition then there would never be any progress or improvements and they would never draw in any new customers. They would continue to put out whatever they felt like putting out regardless of their fit and finish or wether they last or break down every two seconds. TRUE fans are the most critical people of all, they are the ones that tell the manufacturer what they want (AKA: what sells and will sell) and let them know when they've made something they want and when they've made something they don't want. They also let them know when they've made a good product and when they've made a bad product. This is the whole point behind them making concept cars to begin with, then it's up to them as to what they do with them and the input they get from them. For some reason since Dumler has taken control they go against the grain and decide to only produce that which no one wants and the few that the people/fans do want they decide either not to build them or to change them in such a way that the majority no longer wants them.
You say that you cannot compare cars to football because football involves human error. What do you think designs and builds the cars as well as decides what does and does not get built? Exactly, it's humans. And as you stated humans make errors, every single one of us makes errors at some point including everyone in DCX (especially them).
As far as what is or isn't a true Mopar is debatable and strictly a matter of opinion.
We're pissed at the company because they continually make that which we don't want instead of that which we do want. And this is not a problem here, it is actually a step in the right direction towards the solution by making our points and opinions known to them as well as others.
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 1/2/2006 5:01:49 PM
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A little research would tell you that the Caravan was indeed built on the K platform as is the departing Neon just another variant. Had Chrysler not lead the industry into the minivan era I am not sure that they would still be in business. The Reliant and Aries, the original K's I don't believe would have carried the company very long even with the7/70 warranty. Iacoca realized these were just a stop gap vehicle I think just to convince the feds to hold them afloat long enough to get a viable product to market ie. Caravan. Chrysler was also lucky that all the big 3 at the time were producing crap and the K wasn't considered to be any worse than the others at that time. I'm died in the wool Mopar do not like everything they produce (or put their name on) in some cases but I see the logic in their business plan. IF they are selling vehicles they are making money, if they are making money they are spending some of that on new product development. That's where the Vipers, Prowlers, PT's, Crossfires, 300's, Charger's, Rams, Magnums, Dakotas came from and sales of these, a couple of which I'll wager some of us don't really care for will bring about the development of the Challengers, Firepowers,etc. of the future. And as far as them not making the vehicles we want. I WANT CHRYSLER ME-4-12 PRICED AROUND $14,000. Now that sounds stupid! HOPE YOU GET MY POINT.
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RE: Dodge Nitro Is A Go! - 1/2/2006 6:47:06 PM
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I hear ya. There are sports teams I like and am a fan of, but they always have a few players that are sub par and should be traded. Same goes for any manufacturing business, including cars. I worked for a lighting company that has many different lines (models) of lighting systems (Ardee Lighting in Shelby, NC...they have a large website) and we were constantly trying to second guess what the next hot trend in the industry would be. Sometimes we got it right, other times we fell on our face and had to bite the bullet. It's the same in fashion/clothing, car/trucks, electronics, furniture, appliances, you name it.
Would I buy a Nitro? No, it's not what I'm looking for and I don't like the body style. If someone does, great.
Did DCX make a mistake in the Nitro? Time will tell, but you don't find a "winner" without going thru a few "losers".......
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