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RE: Nissan Titan - 9/29/2005 11:04:29 PM   
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RE: Nissan Titan - 9/30/2005 5:00:52 PM   
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Coming from a Dodge and now owning a Titan, I will say my Dodge was a good vehicle and never let me down, it had the 5.9 engine. I did have to spend a lot of money to keep it running after the 60,000 mile mark. The Titan is bigger inside and has a more refined drivetrain with a 32 valve engine and 5 speed tranny. The dodge Hemi and Titan are about equall power wise but it ends their. I bought the Titan because it was differant and becuase it was consistantly rated at the top for the full size truck class. I . I always buy what is the best and the Titan beats or meets the big three in all the major catagories. As far as people saying it drives like a car they are just in denial that the Titan is a truck that is acutually fun to drive but at the same time can tow 9500lbs and is availiable with a rearend locker for the ultimate offroading. Go over to TitanTalk.com and find out how many former Dodge, Chevy, and Ford full size truck owners say they could never go back to their old trucks after owning the Titan. That said Dodge and Ford both make good decent trucks but the Nissan is just an awsone, badass truck that ranks even higher. Most Titan owners are well educated and review all the facts when making a vehicle purchase.

Dodge Hemi Nissan Titan

0-30 MPH 2.8, 2.6

0-60 MPH 8.0, 7.6




Look at the facts here is the gear ratios that the Titan has verses the Ram

Ram Titan
1st 3.00 3.83

2nd 1.67/1.50 2.37

3rd 1.00 1.52

4th .75 1.00

5th .67 .83

final drive-ratio

3.92:1 3.36:1

The transmission in the Titan is set up for acceleration purposes and if I remember correctly, the transmission in the Nissan was said to be harsher than the one in the Ram which means that it shifts faster. The only way to guarantee that the engine is indeed "faster" is to switch engines in both vehicles, with the opposites' transmission (although they probably wouldn't mount up anyways).

Also look at how superior the HEMI really is when you consider all the things Nissan had to do in order to so much as compete with it. The ENDURANCE (Titan) engine has twice the number of valves, four times the number of cams DOHC vs. OHV, it has a higher compression ration 9.8 vs. 9.6, and the only disadvantage the ENDURANCE has is the fact that it is 6 cubic inches smaller. Also doesn't the ENDURANCE have variable-valve timing? That helps both fuel economy and power throughout the power and torque band. Technically the Titan should have the advantage since they had the chance to see what Dodge had first so then they could make a few last second tweeks to give themselves an advantage.

Just wait under the MDS HEMI comes out. Any so called the "advantage" the Titan might have is going to disappear. 350 hp and 385 ft-lbs of torque is what I have heard. Another thing the fastest 0-60 time I have ever seen with the Titan is 7.0 seconds the fastest for the HEMI Ram I have seen is 6.8 seconds before any of the "sport" (Rumble Bee, Daytona) models came out.

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The only HEMI powered Ram that I have ever heard doing 0-60 in the 8 second range or less was with the 2500 model, in 8.1 seconds and I would believe in the 3500 model would be slower.

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RE: Nissan Titan - 10/11/2005 6:01:28 PM   
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I read in an update in Motor Trend that the Titan has a 0-60 acceleration time of 7.4 seconds for a 2WD model. Under their comparasion of similar trucks. The HEMI powered Ram was listed at 0-60 acceleration time of 7.1 seconds for a 2WD model. That is why I say that it depends on which source you look at. I think the HEMI is superior.

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RE: Nissan Titan - 10/27/2005 12:50:59 AM   
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you cant compare the titan to the srt-10. titan to the hemi is a fair comparison . as for the 0-60 times, to many variables. i have raced 2 titans, beat them, raced 2 hemis, beat them, race a lightning, beat him off the line, then by 60 mph, he was gone. there all good vehicles, its simply a matter of preference.

as for the issue of american made, well, i believe most of the hemi parts are made in mexico.

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RE: Nissan Titan - 10/31/2005 10:18:36 AM   
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You're all gettin' nervous.


Nervous about what? The only thing to like about a Titan..

is the first three letters..

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RE: Nissan Titan - 10/31/2005 10:31:34 PM   
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Basically, you have a proven vehicle here. The Dodge Ram. How long has the Nissan been on the road. Exactly.
Secondly, these are trucks, not sports cars or fine tuned pickups. They are met to haul, go over hills, through mud, snow, you name it. Who cares about 0-60. I know I don't sit at the light and think...hmm...who can i race next with my big old truck. Geesh.
Point of the matter, Dodge is an American vehicle, been in the game for a long time, and has PROVEN its worth.



Ho hum. Both of my Dodge's were made in the USA (of parts sourced who knows where). Many of the Rams are made in Mexico. ALL Titans are made in the USA. All of them. The profits go to France, by way of Japan. Dodge's profits go to Germany, by way of Detroit.

So however you want to look at it, the profits aren't sticking around in the USA, but one manufacturer actually has sent jobs to another country. Buy a Titan and you're putting food on an American dinner plate. Buy a Ram and you may be feeding a Mexican instead.

I've got no problems with this, it's just I get sick and tired of the rah rah buy American BS when it's a GLOBAL economy and there isn't really an American company in question here.


That said, if I was looking at getting a 1/2ton for a play truck I'd probably go with the Titan due to the neat features unavailable on the Ram. If I wanted a work truck, I'd get a 3/4ton Ram.


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RE: Nissan Titan - 10/31/2005 10:37:32 PM   
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All the talk about the Titan is how it's faster. Bottom line, trucks are not made for speed. They are made for pay load, towing, power and the occasional muddin'. The Titan is SUPER light and I for one, would not like to drive a truck that weighs as much as a Neon. I would want my truck to be big, heavy, tough and beefy.




Um, the Titan weighs around 5000 pounds, give or take.
How much does a Quad cab Ram 1500 4x4 weigh? About 5200. That's a HUGE difference.


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RE: Nissan Titan - 11/1/2005 12:44:30 AM   
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yeah, i thought the gears were good enough and the hemi was strong about the hp and torque but with chevy, ford, and toyota???....F them, i feel bad alreadybtw, my dad is a toyota person with econmy in mind like always

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RE: Nissan Titan - 11/1/2005 7:15:40 PM   
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the titans 3.36 gears equate to 4.10 gears on a hemi. put 4.10's on a hemi and then see what happens.

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RE: Nissan Titan - 11/1/2005 9:17:26 PM   
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im not going to get into a argument over all this dodge Vs Nissan thing.

What i will say is the comment about Nissan taking toyotas spot light, to ****ing right they should, the tundra looks gash!

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RE: Nissan Titan - 11/10/2005 5:41:00 PM   
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Actually, the Titan has more torque than the Hemi-the Hemi has more HP. Although, I'm not so sure. I've seen Hemi's that dyno in the 250 to 260 range, with less than 300 ft lbs' of torque. The Titan's on the other hand, STOCk dyno (between) 260 and 278, depending on the dyno, and OVER 300 ft. lbs' of torque.

And Titan's aren't light-my CC 4X4 with me and just over half a tank of gas weighs 5300 lbs. And the Titan has a larger payload and tow capacity than the Ram QC.

As for speed, I've raced QC Hemi's and they are SLOW! Stock, they can't get out of their own way-sorry to say it. RC's, are a deifferent story, which leads to my next question-how is it the Ram loses so much power going from a RC to a QC-not enough torque.

And as for the 0-60 times, I'd really not take what C&D says-they're quicker than a 7.2 for a 2WD.

So, when all things considered, Titan is the best 1/2 ton truck on the market. That's why they've been winning all the awards.

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RE: Nissan Titan - 11/10/2005 5:49:24 PM   
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If you ask me. I really think they should have put more thought into the new ram 1500,2500,3500. i know we are talking 05-down, but the truck is pretty well the same, just different shell. The engine could use more power and torque. Both the hemi and 4.7L. See, i just think it is wrong that a Japanise truck is the best in N.A.

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RE: Nissan Titan - 11/10/2005 5:53:18 PM   
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Well, I'm sure it gets expensive for car makers to keep making changes. Dodge is working on changes for the future.

But I like to think Dodge has been motivated by Nissan. I could be wrong, but I don't think so...

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RE: Nissan Titan - 11/10/2005 7:31:00 PM   
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You guys are forgetting the most important aspect of a truck. You can play with those numbers all you want, but when i'm looking for a truck i'm looking for something with a sturdy suspension and frame. I dont want something that will fall apart in 5 years. Seeing as dodge has dealt in full size light trucks for years and the jap companies are fairly new in the market, i'm not even 2nd guessing my decision to buy my 2nd dodge truck in a row. Its also amusing that the one guy believes all the hp and torque #s, but when it comes to a published 0-60 time he doesnt. 0-60 times in car and driver are actually corrected values for elevation. If anything they probably list them a little faster than they typically are. And then again you have to look carefully at what zdive65 said. He beat some dodge hemis, he beat some titans.......when you're talking about a 10 hp difference in the two, you're only talking about a 3 or 4% difference. I can go get 15 titan motors and 15 hemi and i guarantee you that some of the hemis are gonna dyno stronger than the titans.

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RE: Nissan Titan - 11/10/2005 7:59:05 PM   
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That's what I love about Dodge Ram owners, as soon as one weakness is exposed, they jump to something else.

The motor of the Ram might dyno higher, but it's gotta be hooked to something, and the trannyand drivetrain is what's killing the Ram.
Jap companies,or Nissan, has been making trucks since 1959-not full size ones, but trucks. And as for reliability, we won't talk about Dodge b/c they don't have the most stellar record-transmissions...

And the HP difference between the two is more than 10, Titan has 305hp and the Hemi Ram has 345hp. That's more than 10. And as for the 0-60 times, they're off. Everyone knows that.

Just remember, the Titan may be a Nissan product, but it's made here in America. The Ram on the other hand, is made in Mexico, on top of that, it's parent company, is in Germany-so much for American made!!

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