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RE: Replacement Speaker - 9/11/2007 7:02:51 PM   
Kensai


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I have repaired my OEM speakers using the $26.95 repair kit from http://www.simplyspeakers.com.  I will let the glue dry overnight.  I will swap out my Infinity reference 6012's and put back the OEM's as I have ohm'ed out the OEM's and it is roughly 2 ohms vs the reference 6012's at 4 ohms.  If I do not get louder sound and bass response, I fear the OEM amp is burnt and will have to replace that.  But problem is I have yet to find a aftermarket 4 channel amp that can fit in the same kick panel location as the OEM.  Anyone knows of any 4 channel amp that can fit in that passenger side kick panel?

I wonder how you can upload pictures here directly from your PC?  I took some pictures of the procedure on repairing the OEM's.  If anyone is willing to tackle this to fix their OEM speakers, I seriously recommend you to be very patient.  Apparently the foam material and the glue the factory used is messy.  Takes about an hour or more per speaker to remove the foam and scrap and clean off the glue in preparation to reinstall the new foam.

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RE: Replacement Speaker - 9/12/2007 5:20:41 PM   
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Okay, I am glad I figured out how to upload a file!  You have to reply or create a new post to upload a file!  Quick reply does not allow for file uploads.  Here is the pics I took to repair the OEM's.  As I can only upload 5 pics at a time, this will be multiple posts.  The pics you see is very similar to the illustrated doc that came with the repair kit.

1st pic - Shows you the Rear speaker
2nd pic - Use a flat screwdriver to slowly pryoff the plastic trim
3rd pic - carefully peel back the insulation and use a torx driver to remove screw on each end to remove the tweeter assembly from the plastic trim ring.  Tweeter assembly cannot be removed from speaker so be VERY CAREFUL not to break the wiring connection to the cone.
4th pic - Shows the original surround foam completely ripped and tweeter assembly loosely connected to speaker cone.
5th pic - Use a exacto knife or very sharp razor to trim off the broken foam


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Black 2000 Durango 5.9 R/T
Fastman 52mm ThrottleBody
Fastman custom built Tranny
Castrol Full Syntec
OEM K&N Air filter
Monroe Reflexes
BFG Comp T/A''s
Champion IR Truck Plugs
180 Stat
Hypertech III (87 oct)
Custom Made Ram Air Intake

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RE: Replacement Speaker - 9/12/2007 7:01:39 PM   
Kensai


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1st pic - Speaker cleaned up by removing all the foam on the metal ring and trimmed off bad foam from the cone.  Use rubbing alcohol or fingernail polisher remover to soften and wipe off the factory adhesive glue.
2nd pic - The trim ring.  You will need to use the exacto knife to clean off the foam and adhesive.  Again you can use rubbing alcohol or fingernail polish remover to make removal easier.
3rd pic - trim ring all cleaned up.
4th pic - Install the replacement foam.  Follow the easy instructions.  It says to glue the inner foam to the cone first, let it dry for an hour, then glue to the outter foam to the metal ring.  Let dry for another hour


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Black 2000 Durango 5.9 R/T
Fastman 52mm ThrottleBody
Fastman custom built Tranny
Castrol Full Syntec
OEM K&N Air filter
Monroe Reflexes
BFG Comp T/A''s
Champion IR Truck Plugs
180 Stat
Hypertech III (87 oct)
Custom Made Ram Air Intake

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RE: Replacement Speaker - 9/12/2007 7:09:55 PM   
Kensai


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1st pic - carefully remount the tweeter assembly back on trim ring.  Screw the 2 torx screws back in place to hold the tweeter assembly. Careful not to tear the foam trim.  Then glue the plastic trim ring back on speaker.  Turn speaker upside down and set it on a smooth flat surface and let it dry for at least a couple more hours.

2nd pic - I used a ohm meter to measure the resistance of the rear factory speaker and it reads 2.6 ohms so roughly 2 ohms.

Now you are ready to re-install the factor speakers back to your Durango.

All in all, the procedure to repair these speakers is relatively easy.  But you will have to exercise ALOT OF PATIENCE!!  Because of the factory adhesive they use to glue down the foam and the plastic ring, it was very very time consuming to carefully clean off the glue from the metal ring and the plastic trim.  It dirtied and stickied up my tools.  If it was not for the adhesive cleaning, this project would only take me about 15 minutes to clean and remove the foam.  Otherwise, it took me over an hour per speaker.


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Black 2000 Durango 5.9 R/T
Fastman 52mm ThrottleBody
Fastman custom built Tranny
Castrol Full Syntec
OEM K&N Air filter
Monroe Reflexes
BFG Comp T/A''s
Champion IR Truck Plugs
180 Stat
Hypertech III (87 oct)
Custom Made Ram Air Intake

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RE: Replacement Speaker - 9/12/2007 7:21:58 PM   
Kensai


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I re-installed the factory speakers.  It is slightly louder than the reference infinity and the bass is a little better, but the clarity is crap compared to the reference infinity.  But either way, the rear speakers aren't as loud as the fronts OEM 2 ohm or aftermarket 4 ohm.  I would have to assume the rear channel on the OEM amp is weakening or on its way to burn out soon.

Wished someone out there makes a 4 channel aftermarket amp that can nicely fit in the same location as the oem amp that is located on the passenger kick panel.

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Black 2000 Durango 5.9 R/T
Fastman 52mm ThrottleBody
Fastman custom built Tranny
Castrol Full Syntec
OEM K&N Air filter
Monroe Reflexes
BFG Comp T/A''s
Champion IR Truck Plugs
180 Stat
Hypertech III (87 oct)
Custom Made Ram Air Intake

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RE: Replacement Speaker - 9/19/2007 7:39:39 PM   
Kensai


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What do you guys think of this possible OEM amp replacement?

http://www.crutchfieldcanada.com/Sony_XM_4S_50W_x_4_Thin_Car_Amp_p/158xm4s.htm

This amp roughly measures 8 inches by 9 inches.  Smallest and cleanest sounding 4 channel I came across.  I have not looked at the OEM infinity amp to see how big it is but I must assume it should not be any smaller than 8x9?   I like to find a good quality aftermarket amp replacement and can fit in the same location as the OEM amp.

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Black 2000 Durango 5.9 R/T
Fastman 52mm ThrottleBody
Fastman custom built Tranny
Castrol Full Syntec
OEM K&N Air filter
Monroe Reflexes
BFG Comp T/A''s
Champion IR Truck Plugs
180 Stat
Hypertech III (87 oct)
Custom Made Ram Air Intake

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RE: Replacement Speaker - 12/30/2007 4:56:52 PM   
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I have an 03 Durango R/T and left a stereo shop, the guy there told me  each speaker is amplified separately? I know both the front and the back separate tweeters. It sounds good. The guy told me without spending a fortune and replacing the head unit all the speakers it would not be worth  changing the speakers. He told me I could put a separate amp and sub just to boost the bass  but then  that would  not be worth it

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RE: Replacement Speaker - 12/30/2007 5:12:28 PM   
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Dont no if anyone did the reserch or not didnt read all the post but infinity syestm is a 2 ohm and therfore you can not replace factory amp with other and infinity makes replacment 2 ohm speakers try crutchfield.com been down this road repared my stock ones they lasted about a month

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RE: Replacement Speaker - 12/30/2007 5:34:21 PM   
72combo

 

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I figured they were full of crap..........that is why I  am enjoying my stock infinity system. Took a Grand Cherokee SRT8 with the BOSE system  for ride...500 plus watts.......not impressed by the stereo considering there is a sub and several component speakers. Scared by the  power of the engine......and the warranty.

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