whats wrong with the stock tires?
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whats wrong with the stock tires? - 7/30/2005 9:22:11 PM
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srt4 kid
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I was just wondering whats the big deal with the stock tires. Everyone seems to think they suck. I see ads all the time for them and they are supposed to be pretty good. Could you guys point out whats wrong with these tires. Also, could anyone recommend a good, performance oriented set of tires? Thanks
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RE: whats wrong with the stock tires? - 7/31/2005 2:16:15 AM
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American__Muscle
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they are definetely good tires, but they are 205s, while we can run 225s. Every SRT-4 owner knows about the traction problems that we have launching, so wider tires is the way to solve it. G-force sports are good. 225s
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RE: whats wrong with the stock tires? - 8/1/2005 12:46:46 AM
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Yes too small. I have 225/40ZR18 G-Force Sports and love them. But those KDW's.....at 40-45mph my god do they SING! The humming can get annoying without the aid of a radio. But they are good tires, dont get me wrong.
And you cannot run a 225 on a stock wheel, the stock wheels are 6" wide, and running a 225 on them isnt neccessarily recommended by any tire manufacturer. Not that it can't be done, but it isnt smart.
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RE: whats wrong with the stock tires? - 8/1/2005 5:36:47 PM
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i own a 03 srt4 and i have went through two sets of tires already. my biggest prob is the launching off the line. what are any suggestions on fixing that and keeping the stock rim?
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RE: whats wrong with the stock tires? - 8/1/2005 6:24:03 PM
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I like my stck tires.. but, like pressure said it suks for SNOW
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ORIGINAL: srt4 kid
I was just wondering whats the big deal with the stock tires. Everyone seems to think they suck. I see ads all the time for them and they are supposed to be pretty good. Could you guys point out whats wrong with these tires. Also, could anyone recommend a good, performance oriented set of tires? Thanks
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RE: whats wrong with the stock tires? - 8/2/2005 1:28:51 AM
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American__Muscle
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you could...
a) get LSD
b) get 215s
c) FEATHER THE CLUTCH IN FIRST
d) get a dual stage BC and tone down the 1st gear boost
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RE: whats wrong with the stock tires? - 8/2/2005 9:05:31 AM
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Ive had no problems with the stock '03 Pilot sports or the KDW's I bought w/ rims for 400 bucks. I dont notice much noise diffrence between the two and I dont drive my car at all in the winter.
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RE: whats wrong with the stock tires? - 8/2/2005 10:18:42 AM
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The stock tires are great, one of the best made and they grab like crazy sticking through curves as if it were on rails. They only suck for drag launches because they are too narrow, it would be far better with 245's, but it only has 205's which are far from enough to put their power to the ground effectively.
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RE: whats wrong with the stock tires? - 8/2/2005 11:40:30 AM
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I would say that the tires are good for stock tires.
If you push the performance envelope, though, like any car, you need to compensate.
That is when the real problem arises. The guys at dodge were a little lame in choosing to go with a 17x6 rim. Even with the 205's, cornering is much improved with a 7" wide rim.
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RE: whats wrong with the stock tires? - 8/2/2005 12:50:15 PM
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I personally think the KDW's are the best handling tire iv'e ever had...........EXCEPT for the 205/50's that they put on the SRT.......the car simply overpowers them lil wheelbarrel tire's when accelerating, in turn causing a nasty "wheel hop" condition..........i just switched to 225/45/17's & i can now let out the clutch in first & put my foot right to the floor, w/ out ANY wheelspin...........it feel's GREAT!, can't wait to got to the track again & run some new times!(14.0@102 is my best on the **** 205's)________5TOEZ__________
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RE: whats wrong with the stock tires? - 8/2/2005 3:49:53 PM
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Yup. the stock 205's are just too skinny. And the wheels are only 6" wide, which means putting anything wider than 215's and you *should* also look at wheels.
I'm running BFG KDW's (NT) in a 245/40R17 on 17x8" wheels (w/ a 35mm offset). With the stock suspension, I had no issues unless I REALLY pushed the car hard in a corner (usually left turn for some reason) then I'd get a little rubbing. I put Hotchkis springs on (1" drop Front, 2" drop rear) and now every once in awhile will catch a bump just right or turn fairly agressively and it will rub, but not bad. I'm having the front fenders rolled to clear the slicks I'll be using and that'll probably take care of all rubbing.
The 245's hook pretty good. On some streets I can actually run WOT in 1st (~12psi boost w/ the big turbo = ~315whp), however on most streets a little over 1/2 throttle will cook the tires pretty good. In 2nd I run about 15psi (~360whp) and it hooks up and takes off unless the street is wet or greasy. In 3rd, 4th & 5th I run 18psi (~400whp) and have no issues w/ wheelspin (unless the street is soaked, i.e. rainstorm).
When I was on the stock turbo pushing right at 300whp, it'd break the tires loose in 1st only, but I would get a few dog barks shifting hard into 2nd... the way the stock turbo spools up had something to do with that... the big turbo doesn't come on all at once, so I actually get better traction w/ more hp.
Here's a pic with the wheel turned so you can see how wide the tires are:
http://www.azchatfield.net/pics/View.asp?ID=291&A=45&S=250
< Message edited by MChat -- 8/2/2005 3:51:03 PM >
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