RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed!
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RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed! - 6/3/2005 1:44:56 PM
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BadStratRT
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but remember joe...the dakotas are selling just fine!
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RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed! - 6/3/2005 2:51:29 PM
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SHAPman
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You know actually I tried to buy a new ram last week but nobody had what I wanted. Of course those dirt cheap leases could have been the reason! The daks were doing well I heard because of the buy one get three free promotion!
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RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed! - 7/6/2005 8:52:50 PM
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mackave1
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we aren't losing jobs, because of the people on the top of the corporation, we are losing jobs, because UNIONS make American workers OVERPRICED. why pay extra for the same product...think about it with a business sense.
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What do you think the top brass at Toyota , Honda etc make in a year? Not even close to what the American auto executives make. When Dieter and Shremp took over they had to have a major pay raise just to be competitive with our upper management pay rates. 95 pay grades getting 100% of their pay in the profit sharing , we union over payed workers got 2.38% 92 pay grades received I think 8% or close to it. We union workers are trying to hold on to our pensions we don't have golden parachutes that give us milloins in stock options lifetime use of cars or corporate jets , so yes it is at the top and if they want to be like Toyota and the rest of the so called cheap makers of the same product they can get what their people on top make! If it was not for the unions you would not get paid vacations or health care or many other benifits that you seem to take for granit. If you work for Daimler Chrysler QUIT so you can save the company some money then go to work for a non union supplier and bust your a#% for $7.00 an hr and live on that. If the union were to disband what do you think that the Toyotas of the world would do? I have a clue they would cut their peoples pay and benefits so fast because they would not have to worry about the unions coming into their plants that is the only reason they make as much as they do. So do the unionized workers make a good living yes why because we have been working to enrich the lives of all workers not just auto for many decades. Question do you think NAFTA CAFTA is helping America my guess is YES.
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RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed! - 7/6/2005 11:13:59 PM
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a990dna
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Interesting concept. Not a bad idea.... send the Ford's, Chebby's and Toyota's to the back row.
From my viewpoint, and coming from an entirely different non-union manufacturing industry.... I can see why managment and or the union would apply pressure to those employees to be more brand loyal. As an ops manager, I don't see this as harassment, I view this more as a policy to improve morale. It may be more an issue for new-hires than senior employees.
If you have 20 loyal employees working in a team, and 2 mavericks that would rather buy a competitors product, wheather it be stock or vehicles.... especially since you receive discounted prices, then I can see where it would create conflict. It's like participating in stock options, 401K or stock purchase plans.... do you think it would be appropriate for management to offer a competitor's stock as an option in your plan?
I think this would send the wrong message, not to mention it would fuel the competitors R&D efforts.
I'm guessing that a typical $40K vehicle enjoys a 50%-60% gross margin. If that's the case, for each competitors vehicle you buy puts an additional $20K into the competitors pocket... as opposed to your own pocket. Make sense?
I think its best practice to buy and drive the brand you make, and make it better by providing immediate feedback to engineering. If the employees don't show interest with brand loyalty, why in hell would a customer want what you don't want.
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RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed! - 7/6/2005 11:21:59 PM
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SHAPman
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I agree with you 100 %!
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RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed! - 7/7/2005 11:42:38 PM
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SHAPman
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They tried that back in the early 60's in Newark Del.. We had so many cars and trucks out on the shoulder of the road that Chrysler had to supply buses to pick us up. Made the shifts run four hours late. That lasted three days. Then they tried to get us to buy the French Simca for $1600.00 , what junk. They lost on that deal too.
Sounds like they should have found new employees, not buses!
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RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed! - 7/9/2005 12:55:53 PM
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This is the United States. Freedom of choice 'n all that. As noted, D-C vehicles are a conglomerate of parts and assemblys from all over the world... as is everything in this world market. Perhaps some employees have nice D-C products at home 'n drive some ricer beater to work. So what? This is asinine corporate politics at it's worst. What's next... gather in the parkin' lot each morning to sing the Company Song? The Japs do that. This is decidedly odious to me... It's a 'control thing. Any of you who are in agreement with this policy are 'sheeple'... easily led. I drive a modifed R/T by choice. I drove modified Mustangs by choice. I served 20 years in the Navy by choice to ensure (in part) that the people of the United States could continue to have their freedom of choice. Imposing hardships on your employees for their personal choice of transportation is sheer arrogance.
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RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed! - 7/10/2005 12:57:33 PM
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First of all unions get paid by you!!! They take your money to make you money...THe thought of Union negotiation vs. Independant workers not able to stand up for themselves whereas the union butts in to negotiate employment rates, benefits, and such is just ridiculous. I work in a non-union plant and we deal w/ those issues all the time but how we do it is w/ Focus groups and present it to The big wigs and by fairness talks and all that we always get something done that satisfies our work group. We didnt have to pay anyone for it our plant paid us for the overtime set in for the meetings and we got our pay raises, eyeglass upgrades, 401k profit shares, and more. YouDONT NEED A UNION TO TELL YOUR BOSS YOU NEED A RAISE. We are one of the highest paid facilities and we work hard for it. Unions arent a bad Idea but to be honest they are built on your money.(the workers) FAIR?!!
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RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed! - 7/10/2005 4:35:25 PM
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Megashifter
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Unions = Collective Socialism.
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RE: Non-Chrysler Vehicles Will Be Towed! - 7/12/2005 11:03:11 PM
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Natedogg625
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I would Park right up front every day just to piss them off.
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