2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3
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2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/15/2005 8:44:33 AM
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js87z
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hi you all it has been awhile i have a project in mind with my daytona when i make it back state side i should have some money saved to start it. but before i get started i need to know a few things how do you actaul make this 2.3 with a 2.2 and 2.5 cuz i think i want to do that as a base and add some goodies like ported head and intake and exhuast manifolds. slightly larger turbo and a mild prformance cam. i kinda want to make it an every day driver with around 300hp would be nice i could use some input on what i should do to get that as my final product any help would be great thanks
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RE: 2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/17/2005 8:11:20 PM
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GTCandGTSturbo
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Whats your budget? To make 300hp everyday reliably, your going to need a commonblock with forged pistons, a S60 or T3/T4 hybrid and a big IC. Then fuel system upgrades and a cal. Then I hope your tranny and axles are up to it. Also need specs on what you are starting with. I dont know what you are talking about with the 2.3l. Even a 2.2 bored out alot wont make it a 2.3 I believe.
< Message edited by GTCandGTSturbo -- 3/17/2005 8:12:31 PM >
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RE: 2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/18/2005 9:42:39 PM
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quote:
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Whats your budget? To make 300hp everyday reliably, your going to need a commonblock with forged pistons, a S60 or T3/T4 hybrid and a big IC. Then fuel system upgrades and a cal. Then I hope your tranny and axles are up to it. Also need specs on what you are starting with. I dont know what you are talking about with the 2.3l. Even a 2.2 bored out alot wont make it a 2.3 I believe.
I think your right about one thing, he has no idea what he's talking about but that's the reason why he's asking the questions.
1. 2.2L bored out will give you more torque but as much as a 2.5L will.
2. raise the Boost pressue.. which brings you to a grainger valve and maybe more mods.. it depends on what you plan on doing with the car.. larger injectors, calibrations... you do need to start with the Common block motor, 89 and newer block.
3. Exhaust system size
4. port the head, intake and exhaust manifolds
don't forget to change the clutch setup to something that can hold the extra power.
so much to do if you want 300HP but for the amount of $$ you can spend, a turbo Dodge is cheaper than a V8 Chevy or Ford.
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RE: 2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/19/2005 1:38:46 PM
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Glad to see that I'm not the only one that was wondering what the 2.3L thing was, I've never heard of combining the two to get that either.
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RE: 2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/20/2005 4:42:52 AM
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js87z
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i read about this 2.3l when i was researching mods for the daytonas and on this one page they talk about taking the crank out of the 2.5 l short block and putting it into a 2.2l if i remember correctly and it makes like a 2.3l. i wasn't sure if any one else had heard of it or have tried it. i will try to find the web page again so i can show it to you guys. i should have a good couple grand saved up by the time i get home and my friend has a his own shop and is will to do the work and get the parts i need at his cost. he also has the abiltiy to port and polish the intake and exhuast manifolds. that should save me a good amount of money. i just wanted to see if any of you knoiw about this 2.3l. they say it creates alot of torque. so i thought it would be worth a shot to check it out.
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RE: 2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/20/2005 7:43:19 PM
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displacement = torque.
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RE: 2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/20/2005 8:26:51 PM
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Turbobearcat
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displacement = torque.
A-Frackin'-men!
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RE: 2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/21/2005 4:34:35 AM
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js87z
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that is why i ask before i went out and tryied it. it sounded kinda odd to me and it didn't really make a hole lot of sence but i thought i would ask any way. i was planning on biuld a motor when i get home so would you say it would be better to biuld a 2.5 l instead of a 2.2 l ? i can get a 2.5 l block with ease but i already have the 2.2l . would there be any real major chance that would have to be done to do that kinda swap?
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RE: 2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/21/2005 5:04:42 AM
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71RoadRunner
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Your almost always better off to use the biggest engine possible to start off with, the old saying, "there's no replacement for displacement" comes to mind here. This is always true, because the larger engines can be turbo and supercharged just like the smaller ones.
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RE: 2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/22/2005 5:11:58 AM
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It all depends on how crazy you wanna get, you could go all custom and put a hemi in there. It all depends on what you wanna do, but the bigger you start with the better your gonna be.
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RE: 2.2 and 2.5 making a 2.3 - 3/23/2005 9:56:22 PM
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Turbobearcat
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that is why i ask before i went out and tryied it. it sounded kinda odd to me and it didn't really make a hole lot of sence but i thought i would ask any way. i was planning on biuld a motor when i get home so would you say it would be better to biuld a 2.5 l instead of a 2.2 l ? i can get a 2.5 l block with ease but i already have the 2.2l . would there be any real major chance that would have to be done to do that kinda swap?
What year 2.2L do you have...
remember what I said about boring out a 2.2L, to me it is the best of both worlds...you get alittle bit more displacement
and you keep your stroke the same...meaning you can still rev high.
you must remember a 2.5L does not rev as high as a 2.2L, if you not out drag racing, 2.5L will be good for you, if your racing then a 2.2L is your motor .
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i not that interested in doing the rear wheel drive coversion with what i want the car for. it just wouldn't be all that pratical to me. i guess what i want is an engine that will rev qiuckly and high or a nice balance between the two. so it kinda sound like a2.2 block might be a little better for my needs if i am understanding what you are all saying. and it has to have torque. torque wins races.
