RE: How bout that Charger???
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/12/2005 12:17:57 PM
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ManMuscle
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You guys sound so ridiculous its unbelievable. How fast do you want this thing to go? Its a street car and its a sedan, not a car made for the track. Do you want it to go back in time also? The old chargers rock, there should be no argument at all. But that was the 1960's, those days are over. This is the new Chrager. Its nice looking very muscular and the performance is great. If you prefer driving a 40 year old car than more power to you. Those cars are great. But they have a tub load of problems and good luck in bad weather. The advantage to a modern car is comfort which is important to pretty much everybody and safety, like better crash test results and esp,traction control, and abs. The new charger has one up on the old for that much. But both cars a really cool and fast and dodge puts out awsome cars so they kick everyones ass end of story.
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/12/2005 1:04:07 PM
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Now consider this, 30 plus years have passed, and the best that they got is the same numbers from 30 years ago. Also remember the 70 chargers weigh a considerable amount more. So with all the technology, electronics, and weight reductions they still can't beat the original. Yes I'm the sure the new one will handle better, and ride better. But in 30 years a 69 charger will still be a much more desired car than the current version.
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Joe,
Read the whole article and the descriptions for each model year and the variations, with times and HP ratings. Also note the production run numbers on the hemi's. The low production numbers are part of the high value of the old Chargers in today's market. I could not find a published weight on the old chargers, but my recollection is that they weighed less than the new ones.
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/dodge-charger/dodge-charger-history.shtml
If you wish to pay 6 figures for old, creaky, uncomfortable, unsafe car, to have two door and a style you like, have at it. The new charger is still a much better car on any technical or quality basis.
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/12/2005 2:04:55 PM
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The power to make your stomach tighten is not the cop car, it is the cop in the car. Cars don't make the arrest and you still can't outrun a radio.
Yeah yeah... there is something more intimidating about the a charger rolling up behind you with lights flashing over the crown vicotria, IMO.
But seriously. If a cop pulled me over in the new Charger, I would be asking him all about it.
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/12/2005 4:09:44 PM
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You guys sound so ridiculous its unbelievable. How fast do you want this thing to go? Its a street car and its a sedan, not a car made for the track. Do you want it to go back in time also? The old chargers rock, there should be no argument at all. But that was the 1960's, those days are over. This is the new Chrager. Its nice looking very muscular and the performance is great. If you prefer driving a 40 year old car than more power to you. Those cars are great. But they have a tub load of problems and good luck in bad weather. The advantage to a modern car is comfort which is important to pretty much everybody and safety, like better crash test results and esp,traction control, and abs. The new charger has one up on the old for that much. But both cars a really cool and fast and dodge puts out awsome cars so they kick everyones ass end of story.
Technically it is on the track. NASCAR uses it, don't they???
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/12/2005 8:41:38 PM
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NASCAR doesnt use the 4 door sedan RT or Daytona Or SRT8 that they sell in the dealship. Common, I know you have more intellegence than that.
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/12/2005 10:14:34 PM
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Technically it is on the track. NASCAR uses it, don't they???
Nascar uses Tauruses also. let see one of those stock do 5 seconds.
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/12/2005 11:35:45 PM
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NASCAR doesnt use the 4 door sedan RT or Daytona Or SRT8 that they sell in the dealship. Common, I know you have more intellegence than that.
The vehicles used in NASCAR only have a slight resemblance to a Ford, Chevy or Dodge. They share NO parts with ones that we can buy in the showroom. The difference between the manufacturer's represenative vehicles are really only front body panel deep, and not very close at that. Otherwise they are custom built by special race shops and can represent any brand with a body panel change. Come on, you should know that :)
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/13/2005 10:44:08 AM
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I dunno if that was intened for me since you were quoting me, but thats what I was saying. That NASCAR DOES NOT use the factory cars.
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/13/2005 8:26:59 PM
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ManMuscle
Just wanted to expand on the good point that you were making.
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/14/2005 1:12:03 AM
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I know there were few hemis built. Just like there will be few srt-8's built. My point here was to show how little they actually accomplished here. How fast do I want it? Can you say mustang? Thats what most of us have been waiting for, a mustang fighter. Not another family-mobile. We have plenty of them already. How about a change for once.
Old and unsafe? Have you ever driven, or at least ridden in a restored mopar? Thats not how I would describe it. Yeah yeah I know new cars are easier to drive than the old ones. But you know what that creates? Morons behind the wheel. If the driver had to put more thought into driving than we would all be a bit safer.
By the way it appears you are correct the new one weights more than the old. How sad. Couldn't even do that right.
If they build it the right way, they wouldn't be able to build enough of them. (see ford mustang)
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/14/2005 2:39:23 AM
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Joe your the best guy on this forum hands down. Everything you have said, I have agreed. Keep up the great posts!!!!
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/14/2005 11:37:01 AM
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Hey Joe,
So you think having a safe car produces bad drivers? Bad drivers will be bad drivers no matter how well the car was built. Its just that today's laws and industry standards are more strict than they were back then. If your reasoning is true, do you want to go back to the first automobiles built w/ no seat belts, airbags, radial tires, etc. Then do you think this will create safer and more intelligent driver?
Also, do you know why the new charger is heavier, it all the new technology used on TODAY'S vehicles. Meaning computers, electronic devices, upgraded chassis...so for you to say that is a worse car b/c of the weight is not a good argument.
And you said most of us have been waiting for, a mustang fighter. I agree with a lot of people, in that this car should have been given another name instead of the the charger name, but the dealers and the current car buying market is demanding more and more performance oriented sedans. Just look at everyone else in the industry, BMW 5-series, MB E-class, Nissan Maxima, Infiniti M45, Toyota/Lexus GS, VW Pheaton....the list goes on. I agree the mustang is a good looking car, but that all Ford has right now to compete in the car segment with their lagging Ford 500, Freestyle, and Montego. Its like seeing it from a Ford guy, "why can't we have something like a crossfire or a PT cruiser". It all business and $$ oriented. And by the way, have you checked out the annual build numbers for the LX line, its doing pretty good. I'm sure DCX will create a cheap performance vehicle like a mustang in the near future, but right now, DCX is doing very well w/ the LX platform.
my 2 cents on the subject.
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RE: How bout that Charger??? - 4/14/2005 11:52:50 AM
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I know there were few hemis built. Just like there will be few srt-8's built. My point here was to show how little they actually accomplished here. How fast do I want it? Can you say mustang? Thats what most of us have been waiting for, a mustang fighter. Not another family-mobile. We have plenty of them already. How about a change for once.
Old and unsafe? Have you ever driven, or at least ridden in a restored mopar? Thats not how I would describe it. Yeah yeah I know new cars are easier to drive than the old ones. But you know what that creates? Morons behind the wheel. If the driver had to put more thought into driving than we would all be a bit safer.
By the way it appears you are correct the new one weights more than the old. How sad. Couldn't even do that right.
If they build it the right way, they wouldn't be able to build enough of them. (see ford mustang)
Joe
I am old enough to have owned and driven 60's and 70's cars when they were new. The good old days were only old. not good.
So the SRT8 is heavier, but still faster, and as a moter vehicle it is superior. Again, style and doors do not make quality.
DC is not having any trouble selling all the LX's they can build. Ford and GM should be so good.
DC is not likely to make a 2 door Charger so get over it and enjoy a fine car of today. There is no reason that you can't like the old ones and the new ones. They are different cars for different times.
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