RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota!
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/4/2005 11:13:06 AM
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TeeWJay426
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It still does have the hemispherical shaped combustion chambers (85cc I believe is the volume) with the intake valves on the intake side of the engine and the exhaust valves on the exhaust side of the engine, so technically speaking it still is a 'hemi'. It does not have the domed pistons anymore, and the chambers are much smaller than previous incarnations, but it is still a 'hemi' in that sense. It tends not to burn as clean as other head configurations, hence the twin plugs per cylinder in the current production version, to enable more complete combustion to occur, and lower the emissions in the process. Not sure if this answers your question or not.
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/4/2005 11:20:19 AM
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i didnt mean you..i am familiar with the hemi head...even though i am some how "anti-american"... 
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/4/2005 11:52:14 AM
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TeeWJay426
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i didnt mean you..i am familiar with the hemi head...even though i am some how "anti-american"...
I KNEW ya didn't mean me.... I was trying to answer Danko's question! And how is it that you're anti-American? Did I miss something (and as you know, that doesn't happen too often! )
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/4/2005 11:57:00 AM
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there was a post, seemingly aimed at my cars...about me being anti-american...it has been deleted...but evidently the mirada and ramcharger werent made in this country...
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/4/2005 12:25:10 PM
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Kicking ass with what, a couple of station wagons, a mid size suv that can't sell unless its heavily discounted? Please, the only thing saving the sales numbers is the 300. The new dakota is tanking, pacificas are only selling because of the heavy rebates, and the neons and stratus still blow. If we didn't have the ram, 300, and minivans we'd be screwed! I think we are going in the wrong direction if you ask me.
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Thats right kicking ass, take your head out of the sand and pay attention, DC is having there biggest sales hike in their companies history and is growing faster than even Toyota. Its common sense, you liking the products or not has nothing to do with it. They are selling and thats all that matters.
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/4/2005 12:40:56 PM
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mine is an 84
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/4/2005 1:44:13 PM
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Well DaimlerChrysler's Chrysler Group posted the numbers the other day, and it doesn't look like America hates the Dakota at all!
Chrysler Group Reports January 2005 U.S. Sales Increase 9 Percent
Dodge Brand Sales Increase 7 Percent, Led by Dodge Durango and Dodge Dakota
Dodge brand sales increased 7 percent to 78,841 units compared to sales of 79,789 units last year. Dodge Durango posted sales of 8,993 units, improving 10 percent compared to January 2004 sales when 8,888 units were sold. Dodge Dakota sales increased 14 percent to 6,089 units as the all-new Dodge Dakota continues arriving at dealerships.
Looks like we could have been wrong!
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/4/2005 1:54:38 PM
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thats ok...i still hate it...
i got in trouble today at work...a guy was complaining that he had been over charged for his oil change, and i made the comment, "he should be charged extra for buying that ugly new dakota"...
evidently he heard me and took offense to it...
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/4/2005 2:09:33 PM
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Looks like we could have been wrong!
redriderbob
Either that, or the effects of the rebates & incentives is finally being felt!
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/4/2005 9:11:55 PM
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i just hope it sells well and people start realizing how much of a huge improvment chrysler is making on all of there vehicles in ecery aspect- interior, exterior- everything. there kicking ford and gm's ass when it comes to raising the quality of there cars. hopefully people start realizing that and start buying them regardless of what they look like and buy them because they know their getting a high quality well built vehicle. thats the almost the only reason people in the U.S. buy asian and other foreign cars-because of their reputation of being very high quality. how many people buy a camry because they look sweet or have a sweet engine?? i dont think anyone does, but its like the number 1 selling car in the country!! i think chrysler is heading in a good direction for sure. there quality is blowing through the roof, and there styling(which they are known for being the best at) is maybe hitting a speed bump, depending on who you ask, but thats gonna happen every once in a while. my biggest problem with there direction is their fear of coupes, they could do so well with one but they dont realize it i guess. im still hoping for one to kick the mustangs ass, but we'll have to see!!
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/6/2005 1:07:19 AM
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Take my head out of the sand? I'm the one that got laid off due to lack off sales! And as many of you know I work where all the dakotas and most of the rams are built. Those Jan dakota sales numbers are a little skewed by the fact there were still some 04's floating around. The sad reality is right now there is over 10 grand in incentives for the durango and close to the same on the dakotas. Thats not a good sign for a brand new model.
Yes I should have excluded the magnum in my rant, its not doing bad. And it is a nice car.
Bob, unless my math is flawed your numbers don't make sense we sold 78,841 this year but last year we sold 79,789? Thats less last time I checked. Also 8993-8888=103. Thats about one percent , not ten.
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/7/2005 4:47:46 AM
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I'm so sick of people rantin' and ravin' about new designs. Back to what this thread was for.....The new Dakotas look good. The Rams look good. The Durango's look good. And even the Charger looks good. Yeah that's right I said it. Every one is so fiaxated on their box looking F-150's and boring a$$ Explorers. Get with it. Change is good. And styles will always change. I think the style of all of the new Dodge's are awesome. Except for the sketch of the future Neon I saw, I like everything about all the new designs. And what's wrong with the Charger? The 300C looks good doesn't it? It won Car Of The Year didn't it? The Charger replaced the Intrepid (which was stupid), but it makes sense!
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/7/2005 6:53:20 AM
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So you go on a rant about other people ranting and raving?  
There are VERY few vehicles I'd buy that are currently being produced. This year's Ram isn't bad, and the GMC's. That's it for the trucks. I hate the styling of every thing else out there, including the F150, the Superduty, the Explorer, the Silverado, the Dakota, the Durango, everything. I just hope Chevy shapes up with the new Silverados that are coming out in '06.
I like the 300C, don't like the Magnum. I hate what they're doing to the Charger. Can't stand pretty much every other domestically built car on the market. I absolutely hate the slanty-eyed look that everyone is doing these days. And I think your neon is fugly.
Guess what? This is a subjective topic! Not everyone is going to agree on everything! We are voicing opinions here. Your rant was an opinion, and gets the same priority as this post or any other. We can choose to ignore it or not. And it doesn't matter! Some of us choose to have our own opinions, others choose to follow the crowd and to believe the BS figures that DCX released trying to cover their own asses.
You want to get back to the point of the post? The fact is that people are losing their jobs because this fugly crap that the Germans are putting out thru DCX flat out isn't selling. I took a drive thru the local chrysler dealer this weekend. They have 10 Durangos, and 6 of them are 2004 model year. They can't give the bastards away! I was at the Chrysler plant in Brampton, Ontario a few months ago. They've got a parking lot with 8,000 Caravans in it, ALL 2004 model year, and they can't get rid of them because NOTHING is selling. It's all about mismanagement of the company as a whole, and the Dakota and Durango is all about mismanagement of an entire platform.
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RE: Its official America hates the new Dakota! - 2/7/2005 7:13:15 AM
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LOL, I know that it's an opininion.. I didn't say everyone had to agree with me. LOL Did I say "I'm right, listen or shut up". No. I said "I think and I like". LOL So you think that Neons and SRT-4's are fugly. I "think" they are hot and the sketch that I saw looked terrible.
And............. You say people can choose to ignore it. Then ignore it.
Once again I "think" the new designs are awesome! Yes the Chager could look better, but, "I" like it.
I don't see your point on telling me things I already know. No offense but stop being a smart a**.
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