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Got out on the road today with my new Titanand hit a couple of consecutive stoplights with a new Hemi. I smoked him 3 out of 3 times with my Titan.</P>


Seems like they should slow down with the multitude of dollar in advertising the Hemi and throw it back into R&amp;D.</P>

Did he know you were racing ?<IMG src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0"></P>

Just a little follow up on my last post. According to Motor Trend Online the Nissan Titan v-8 does 0-60 in 8.0 seconds and the Hemi Powered Ram does it in 6.8 seconds. Hard to argue with an unbiased organization !!!!

You werent racing a parked Hemi were you?<IMG src=smileys/smiley36.gif border="0">I mean seriously, unless your titan was modded alot,it <U>could not</U> take on a hemi.</P>


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Now that i think of it, could you possibly be dodgeforums first troll? The person who starts junk and talks smack? (just a thought<IMG src=smileys/smiley11.gif border="0">)</P>


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A Nissan Truck that is actually fast? Get real there will never be such a thing.</P>


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Got out on the road today with my new Titanand hit a couple of consecutive stoplights with a new Hemi. I smoked him 3 out of 3 times with my Titan.</P>


Seems like they should slow down with the multitude of dollar in advertising the Hemi and throw it back into R&amp;D.</P>


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Got out on the road today with my new Titanand hit a couple of consecutive stoplights with a new Hemi. I smoked him 3 out of 3 times with my Titan. Seems like they should slow down with the multitude of dollar in advertising the Hemi and throw it back into R&amp;D.

Again, I'm going to say, no one here with sympthasize with you. Why don't you go brag to the other Nissan Boys at http://www.nissanforums.com/ because no one here cares. You don't like the Hemi... fine, but this is a DODGE FORUM. We like it, welove itand we don't want you around bashing it. Go where you are welcome, and that's not here.

Didn't your mother ever teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all? It applies to you.

Take it where your opinion's count... at NissanForums.

~Amanda

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You sure are smoking something. Enjoy Nissan Service.</P>

Now that i think of it, could you possibly be dodgeforums first troll? The person who starts junk and talks smack? (just a thought<IMG src=smileys/smiley11.gif border="0">)</P>


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Well, if I would be if I was talking smack and starting junk. So far I thought this was just a regular conversation.</P>


But if you guys want this forum to be people who only agree with each other, right or wrong, then I can leave.</P>

It's not that at all...you act superior to Dodges and those who love themon a Dodge Forum. Act civil, not superior. LOL!

~Amanda

What was your reasoning for exposingsuch information to us? What was your point? Whatdid you expect?Is there something that weshould be understanding from a nissan owner on a Dodge forums site? As far as agreeing goes?We have are our share of "crying Foul" here because if there is BSit isdealt with ..........thats what family is all about (Dodge Family)as you can already see........Im sure you do not represent all nissan owners and they are just as proud of there vehiclesas well. Nissan Im sure makes great vehicles.... of courseI had a nissan stanza4 door I hadpurchased new in87 it got the family around for a long time running thefamily around in. kids softball practiceetc..........so I share your nissan enthusiasm, and to be honest i just do not see very many of them Titons around..???? But i believe you knew what you were doing when youbarged onto this dodge forum!!! Thanks for your interest in ourvehicles......<edited><editID>lawntycoon</editID><editDate>38018.5027314815</editDate></edited>

I'm inclined to believe he doesn't own a Titan at all, but more likely an '87 Hardbody!!<IMG src=smileys/smiley4.gif border="0">


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What's a Titan? oohhhhh right, isn't that Kia's new truck?</P>

Now that i think of it, could you possibly be dodgeforums first troll? The person who starts junk and talks smack? (just a thought<IMG src=smileys/smiley11.gif border="0">)</P>


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Well, if I would be if I was talking smack and starting junk. So far I thought this was just a regular conversation.</P>


But if you guys want this forum to be people who only agree with each other, right or wrong, then I can leave.</P> Sorry DD but you can't feed people full of "BS" and expect them to agree with it for the sake of agreeing.<IMG src=smileys/smiley19.gif border="0">

Well all the mags have it down that the Titan is slightly faster in the quarter than the HEMI... however, I heard Dodge is uping the HEMI's power by 5 horsepower and 10 ft-lbs of torque for the refresh.</P>


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What's a Titan? oohhhhh right, isn't that Kia's new truck?</P>


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One other important factor was not mentioned, which version of the Hemi Ram was it? The Rams weight varies by which version and what options, it could be from 4,700+ LBS. to 6,900+ LBS. whereas your titan at it's possible heaviest is only 5,400 LBS. You could have easily beaten some Hemi Rams while other versions will clean your clock. <img border="0" src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">

By the way, the titan is nissans top performing truck, the Hemi Ram is not Dodges top performing truck. If you want to run your top of the line nissan truck against Dodges top of the line truck, it's called the Ram SRT-10. <img border="0" src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0"> Good luck! <img border="0" src=smileys/smiley36.gif border="0">

I will gladly race the Titan's lightest version. I have the HEMI's lightest version. One important thing though,they might want to go race a 2003 Harley Davidson F-150 or a 2003 Silverado SS, if the Titan beats those two, then I will race it. Find a way to take my horsepower from 360 back to a stock 345 and my torque from 400 to a stock 375, and I will still bet money that I beat the Titan. The lightest version of the 4.7 could still hang with the Titan (which I own and have been looking for a Titan). Titan owners shouldn't even think about the SRT Ram, but then again, it beats cars such as the BMW M3, Subaru WRX 2.5 STi, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, and most importantly, the Ford Lightning, it even beats the Ford Lightning with 650lbs of weight in the bet, but the SRT is intended for racing, the Titan and HEMI aren't. </P>


Before anything gets out of hand, I don't like putting people down, I do like the Titan, but not for speed, I think it's a good hauler and I will admit - can out haul a HEMI. I think it's neat looking, especially the interior. In fact, the only reason I am on here running my mouth is because I own a HEMI Ram. dd564, you shouldn't leave the forum just because of this, stay and talk. Instead of talking down the HEMI, how about posting a discussion in the off-topic about your Titan, what you like about it and what you don't like about it. Just a thought. </P>

dd: You don't give up I see.</P>


I guess you didn'tbother to break in the engine in your NEW pissan.</P>


What a steaming load ofhttp://dtw.truckmoxie.com/forums/images/poop.gif width=16 border= (javascript emoticon':poop';)</P>

I was driving past the Nissain't dealer Sunday, which is right next to the Pontiac dealer. There was a whole row of Titans and Armadas that ran up to the next lot which had a row of Azteks. The whole batch of ugly bastards looked they were designed by the same drunk!<IMG src=smileys/smiley5.gif border="0"><IMG src=smileys/smiley11.gif border="0">

if i couldnt afford a hemi, i wouldnt punish myself by buying a titan

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You definitely smoked something, but it wasn't a HEMI.<IMG src=smileys/smiley19.gif border="0"> You might want to stop smoking that stuff.</P>


This is a "DODGE FORUM". Which means that we all agree on this one thing, that we are all pro-Dodge.</P>


If you feel the need to express you're fantasy, maybe you should go find a "NISSAN FORUM". Hope you speak Japanese.<IMG src=smileys/smiley17.gif border="0"></P>


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Wow,</P>


What a brutal post! This guy really must like punishment! Anyone can say they smoked something or other. If you want to brag, take em both to a drag strip and run them off of a pro tree! Match your driving skills along with the truck'sperformance. Let your time slip do your talking,not yourpride! Doing the nod and pointing at the next green light is best left to the street racers.Yeah the ones who kill people with thier lame tests of manhood!</P>

Oooooo.. OMG.. I'm calling my local Nissan dealer today... I just HAVE to have a new Titan..</P>


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The only 'Titan' I'll have is the grin when I pass the Nissan ;)</P>


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Yea Nissaoff.http://dtw.truckmoxie.com/forums/images/whip.gif width=50 border= (javascript emoticon':whip';)<FONT size=5>HEMI</FONT>

I understand where the guy is coming from. Those RAM HEMI comercials do give an air of arrogance like it is the best thing on the road. So I guess when he out ran the HEMI he ws forced to let it be known because RAM is kinda asking for it for big talking.<IMG src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">

I understand where the guy is coming from. Those RAM HEMI
comercials do give an air of arrogance like it is the best thing on the
road. So I guess when he out ran the HEMI he ws forced to let it be
known because RAM is kinda asking for it for big talking.<img src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">



...because the nissan commercial that shows the titan outhauling the ram is different????

i remember the ram commercial the ram hemi was racing another ram hemi, not some nissan pos, i dont see that as taking shots at another car company at all.<edited><editID>imthe1andonlyD</editID><editDate>38019.8590856481</editDate></edited>

Every truck manufacturer makes thier truck seem the best of the best. It is not just the Dodge line. I was reading an article that stated that the big wigs at Nissan were dissapointed in the first batch of sales figures regarding the Nissan Titan. Of course that will change when they become more popular and they start to give better incentives. </P>

Okay everyone, I'll be honest. I didn't smoke a HEMI. I just got my truck, and as one posted earlier on mentioned, it wouldn't be a good way to break it in. Plus all 180 miles have been on snow packed roads.</P>


By the way, I've only seen that Nissan commercial just once where they race. Other than that, I've only seen the one where the Titan is driving through some desert or something.</P>


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Thanks for the truth dd564... your right about it needing time to break in... is it everything you hoped for?

~Amanda

Okay everyone, I'll be honest. I didn't smoke a HEMI. I just got my truck, and as one posted earlier on mentioned, it wouldn't be a good way to break it in. Plus all 180 miles have been on snow packed roads.</P>


By the way, I've only seen that Nissan commercial just once where they race. Other than that, I've only seen the one where the Titan is driving through some desert or something.</P>


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</P> The truth will set you free.....<IMG src=smileys/smiley1.gif border="0"> MS

Good job dd564, i know you wern't as bad as you made us to believe. you just love getting a rise out us Dodge owners. I hope you enjoy your truck. What are your Nissan brothers saying about them ?

Yeah right dd. What you smoked was a set of $13.00 hemi badges stuck on the front of a 4.7. You know it, I know it and we all know it. Stay around long enough to fill us in on all the electrical problems ya have with that truck, eh?

One other important factor was not mentioned, which version of the Hemi Ram was it? The Rams weight varies by which version and what options, it could be from 4,700+ LBS. to 6,900+ LBS. whereas your titan at it's possible heaviest is only 5,400 LBS. You could have easily beaten some Hemi Rams while other versions will clean your clock. <img border="0" src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">

By the way, the titan is nissans top performing truck, the Hemi Ram is not Dodges top performing truck. If you want to run your top of the line nissan truck against Dodges top of the line truck, it's called the Ram SRT-10. <img border="0" src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0"> Good luck! <img border="0" src=smileys/smiley36.gif border="0">


As I posted before, it is very possible for you to beat a Hemi Ram if it's the right version. But if it's not, then your gonna see nothing but tail lights. <img border="0" src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">

Hi there,

Only 200 miles on the Titan so far, but all is been very good. A lot of cool features like the utility bed which comes with that cubby hole behind the right rear wheel, and the factory sprayed in bed liner.

One thing I noticed is it sits up way high. Looking over minivans and some SUV's with this thing. I think only the Dodge sits higher or as high.

We have a forum where all the Titan guys talk, and mostly all the response has been good, except for one guy who is having an electrical nightmare. Scared me a bit before I bought, but so far, no one else has those problems.

Gas mileage reports are from 11 - 17.

You have had that for a week and you only have 200 miles on it? I had more than that on mine within 4 hours.......however I did pick it up from a dealer that was 300 miles away[sm=lol.gif]. Get in it and drive, that's my motto:D!

ORIGINAL: dd564

Hi there,

Only 200 miles on the Titan so far, but all is been very good. A lot of cool features like the utility bed which comes with that cubby hole behind the right rear wheel, and the factory sprayed in bed liner.

One thing I noticed is it sits up way high. Looking over minivans and some SUV's with this thing. I think only the Dodge sits higher or as high.

We have a forum where all the Titan guys talk, and mostly all the response has been good, except for one guy who is having an electrical nightmare. Scared me a bit before I bought, but so far, no one else has those problems.

Gas mileage reports are from 11 - 17.
Like I said even before ya posted this....keep us informed of all the electrical problems. And that wouldn't be the guy who's seat suddenly starts moving all the way forward while he's driving down the freeway would it?

So dd just wondering, when you buy a jap truck do you have to send the money(and the jobs) to japan, or does the dealer take care of the dirty work?




HEMI an american legend, built in MEXICO. Tell DCX to bring it back home.

Did the doors blow off?Did you kill the japanese guys pedaling under the hood?:D

I don't think that was a hemi you were smokin...[8D]

ORIGINAL: jgralka

So dd just wondering, when you buy a jap truck do you have to send the money(and the jobs) to japan, or does the dealer take care of the dirty work?




HEMI an american legend, built in MEXICO. Tell DCX to bring it back home.


95 percent of the Titan truck is built and assembled in Smyrna Tenn. Since the plant is in Tenn , they employ Americans citizens to build the Titan. What is more American than a truck built in the USA, by Americans. Some profit going Back to Japan is not a bad thing. Dodge trucks assembled in Mexico, with the profits going back to Germany (which isn't very pro-American see the war on terror) is no more American than Nissan is today.

Research your facts before making a post about what is American and what is not .


I own two Dodge trucks, 1 GM car, I'm an NRA member, and I vote in every election so questioning my Patriotism is out of the question.

Near where I am in Pasadena , I went to a large car shopping area in Alhambra. There
is a Nissan dealer there who admits that Nissan Titan's can not keep up with the Dodge
Ram HEMI version.....he said, there was a commercial where they briefly showed
a TITAN passing a Dodge Ram, yet this was the ram with a V6 in it!!

Talk about marketing hype.... For those of us in the American Blessed Dodge Hemi Rams,
GOD BLESS....and Its a GOOD Feeling who rules the road.

Nothing againe Ford F150's..sure they are smoother than a RAM...but they should
be ...more grandmas drive those and can't take the speed or most popular look
of the Dodge Ram.

ORIGINAL: sgbofav

ORIGINAL: jgralka



HEMI an american legend, built in MEXICO. Tell DCX to bring it back home.


95 percent of the Titan truck is built and assembled in Smyrna Tenn. Since the plant is in Tenn , they employ Americans citizens to build the Titan. What is more American than a truck built in the USA, by Americans. Some profit going Back to Japan is not a bad thing. Dodge trucks assembled in Mexico, with the profits going back to Germany (which isn't very pro-American see the war on terror) is no more American than Nissan is today.

Research your facts before making a post about what is American and what is not .


I own two Dodge trucks, 1 GM car, I'm an NRA member, and I vote in every election so questioning my Patriotism is out of the question.



Thank you sgbofav! I could not of said it better myself.

I vote in every election as well, and I'm as Patriotic as the next guy. I don't believe buying a car with a Japanese name (built in Mississippi) hurts us anymore than buying gas from the Arab nations to feed a Dodge gas guzzler or a Nissan gas guzzler.

ORIGINAL: nuckingfuts

Like I said even before ya posted this....keep us informed of all the electrical problems. And that wouldn't be the guy who's seat suddenly starts moving all the way forward while he's driving down the freeway would it?


No electrical problems yet. They guy with the nightmare electrical problems was the same guy with the moving seat problem. Same guy, you are correct. So I guess that's better than two guys with electrical problems.

I own two Dodge trucks, 1 GM car, I'm an NRA member, and I vote in every election so questioning my Patriotism is out of the question.

:eek: Ever notice the largest American flags fly over Jap car dealers? You can put a mini skirt on a pig, but she won't be Christy Brinkly! [sm=smiley30.gif]

Randy_W '67 Impala SS LT1/4L60E
'99 Ram 2500 4X4/5.9

My truck was built in the USA.:D

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95 percent of the Titan truck is built and assembled in Smyrna Tenn. Since the plant is in Tenn , they employ Americans citizens to build the Titan. What is more American than a truck built in the USA, by Americans. Some profit going Back to Japan is not a bad thing. Dodge trucks assembled in Mexico, with the profits going back to Germany (which isn't very pro-American see the war on terror) is no more American than Nissan is today.

Research your facts before making a post about what is American and what is not .


I own two Dodge trucks, 1 GM car, I'm an NRA member, and I vote in every election so questioning my Patriotism is out of the question.



Thank you sgbofav! I could not of said it better myself.

I vote in every election as well, and I'm as Patriotic as the next guy. I don't believe buying a car with a Japanese name (built in Mississippi) hurts us anymore than buying gas from the Arab nations to feed a Dodge gas guzzler or a Nissan gas guzzler.



Do my research are you kidding I work for DCX. As does my father who strange enough works at warren truck assembly where they build.... you guessed it dodge trucks, rams and dakotas. They are also built in St. Loius and yes in mexico. But mexico builds 12 per hour while I believe St Louis is about 40 per hour and warren builds 65-80 per hour. So I wonder where most of the dodges come from. Also nissan has what one or two plants here, and they are just assy plants, no stamping or powertrain. And ask them where ALL of there suppliers are, you guessed it again JAPAN. No chrysler isn't perfect, they build a few things in mexico that does not make me happy, but you have to pick the lesser of the two evils. Sorry foreign makes don't cut it my book. How would you like it if you knew you were getting put out of work because flag flying Americans were too stupid to relize that if you keep buying foriegn products we lose jobs? Well let me tell you it gets very unnerving. Why do you think they are putting up plants over here? So they can fool us into thinking, well it is made here. But what you are forgetting is that you are not only putting the big 3 worker out of a job, but all the supply chains in between. Nissan just as American as Chrysler? Now that is rich, they have what 5000 or so employees we have 125000 in the states alone. You also seem to forget the Chrysler group is still based out of Auburn Hills Mich. Yes I'm sure some gets back to Germany, but once again its one of those better of two evils.

HEMI an American legend, built in MEXICO. Tell DCX to bring it back home.

Just thought it was about time to change the subject heading.

Dodge Rules the Road [8D]

AMEN Brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's amazing how the troll was able to get 3 pages worth. How many more if he claimed his titan beat a bicycle? I would simply tell him to take to another forum. Who cares what a Nissan owner thinks!

This should have been banned.....it's stupidity...made up stuff...the only good that came out of it was showing
how many RAM loyalists there are.

God Bless Ram...TAKE LIFE BY THE HORNS (Damn, could those be Satan's horns and some how Dodge is hiding
something? hehe)

Did you see my posts? I told him where to go. LOL! But yes, the reason I left this open is because it proves our loyalty, but remember, everyone here is entitled to their opinion... pro Dodge or not. ;) Doesn't mean we won't reply like we did here, but everyone gets to have their say. :):)

~Amanda

Actually I Did see ALL your posts...but if I opened the message and saw all those "Smoke a Hemi" scrolling down the tree, it left a subconsciousness of disgust and ill feeling. I had to change the subject to leave here feeling good Amanda :)

LOL, I don't care about the title. I'm totally on your side!! Down with Nissan... DODGE RULES ALL!!! I was more directing the previous post towards MGK. ;)

~Amanda

Dodgegirl19..........
It seems rather silly for the all the chest pounding for such an obvious "troll challenge". He got what he wanted, he shook the nest and out come the bees. He's laughing all the way. So here we go on to page 4................

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Like I said even before ya posted this....keep us informed of all the electrical problems. And that wouldn't be the guy who's seat suddenly starts moving all the way forward while he's driving down the freeway would it?


No electrical problems yet. They guy with the nightmare electrical problems was the same guy with the moving seat problem. Same guy, you are correct. So I guess that's better than two guys with electrical problems.

Well dd hang in there they will show up...always do....and your assumption that it's only one guy??? Yikes.....honestly though hope you're happy... I tried nissan...once.... She don't love you long time...trust me.

Hey I'll take on your Titan!! I got a little more than a Hemi! By the way how many bags of rice does the Titan burn per mile?

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RFoster,

Nice looking truck you have there. Sharp looking.

To answer your question, I've only splashed gas in her once, and I was at 13.5 MPG.

Not bad for the power. I know, I know. The hemi has power, the Titan has power. We could race and who knows who would win, but I didn't just buy my truck for speed either.

ORIGINAL: nuckingfuts

Well dd hang in there they will show up...always do....and your assumption that it's only one guy??? Yikes.....honestly though hope you're happy... I tried nissan...once.... She don't love you long time...trust me.


Nuckingfuts,

Yes, from the forums I've read it's only been one guy with the electrical problems. Although, keep in mind the Titan's only been out for two months.

Hey,

Just an FYI regarding the guy with the electrical problems on the other website with the Titan's. The guy with the electrical problems was a troll. He didn't even own one.

Confirmed from Dodge. As I know the salesguys at Dodge...two of them worked for Nissan too. They showed me the tech sheets that
reveal the Nissan Titan has had electrical problems and already 2 Engine recalls. Another fact is they claim they can tow more? What a crock...
Since the Titan is a weeker truck, what they did is use a Stage 5 towing hitch which I don't care WHAT you put that on, of course it will tow
more. All Dodge and Ford trucks have the option for Stage 5. Previous trucks only used Stage 2, 3 or 4 at the most. Stage 5 is reserved for the big Heavy Duties. So, put a Stage 5 on a RAM Hemi...and what happens? You can pull near 5000 more lbs than the Nissan Titan with the same Stage 5 Hitch..

Does this make sense people? the more you know.....the better you feel about your RAM. I cannot even tell you about the reaction I got from
these people that bought a new Titan. They looked at my truck and the wife said, "We should have got the RAM!"...I looked and simply "hey, I wanted the best performance AND style"...the husband looked pissed and she smiled back...hmmm really it was all about the trucks...

And the Titan's look like something out of a ANIME Japanese animation....just doesn't LOOK American. Damn, I feel good, and I'm grabbing
A Budweiser and a hot dog...GOD Bless to the REAL best Trucks.....DODGE RAM 2003/2004

Confirmed from Dodge. As I know the salesguys at Dodge...two of them worked for Nissan too. They showed me the tech sheets that
reveal the Nissan Titan has had electrical problems and already 2 Engine recalls.

??? So Dodge sent out some sort of official confirmation on letterhead from Daimler Chrysler that indicated that Nissan has had two engine recalls already. Also, they also confirmed that they have had electrical problems that are noted on tech sheets. Now these two salesguys worked for Nissan back when? How did they come up with two recalls, and notes of electrical problems already? Had they even sold a Titan at that dealership before they left? How would they have received "electrical problems" in that short of time frame since most dealers didn't receive their first Titan until January?

mikegonzo, just because you're writing something that might be popular to read on this forum, I'd appreciate it if you had an ounce of truth behind what you are trying to convince people of.

No these guys are in touch with the guys at NISSAN right next to the DODGE dealership. Everyone stays in touch....and these guys know who to listen to from the other place since they have worked with them. But it is fact. You can call Nissan and ask yourself or take your truck in. 2 engine recalls and electrical problems and hype from advertising and well you know....it's just Nissan's attempt to get into the larger market so they can do like Toyota did. They are just trying to hard and fumbling at mistakes....their advertising looks good, yet, the vehicle is far from living up to anything....give the NISSAN a few more years, and then we will consider it a good truck for the market....yet it will be very difficult with Dodge and Ford and Chevy all pushing fast forward with their even better models....you just can't step on the "American" image of what this country is all about...style, performance and SIZE does matter :)

Anyways, this is ridiculous....this topic should have never been put on this amazing site....it's like someone took a crap on it since the opening was the biggest lie of them all.

I love ole' DD boy starts a thread by lying, then accuses someone else of lying!! :eek:

Sooooooo DD the guy that exposed an electrical flaw in the titan is a troll. Hmmmm like the titan guys in dodge forums?? Sorry man, dat chit don't fly. Nissan is famous for this very problem going back many years and just a few posts up alludes to what I was saying several posts ago. Troll all ya want here, have no problem with that but remember, Nissan, no she don't love you long time.

Well, okay. I didn't mean to ruffle the feathers again. I just wanted to point out that the guy on the other forum that said he had electrical problems on his Nissan Titan, didn't really have a truck.

Now, I said I smoked a Hemi, which I didn't do, but that doesn't have much of an impact on whether someone will buy a truck, where electrical problem lies might. I thought twice before I bought, but it only seemed like one truck had it when I purchased so I took that chance. Now I've got 1000 miles on mine, and no issues yet. Knock on wood, but there are plenty of Dodge owners without issues after 1000 miles as well.

Whether Nissan loves you for a long time, I don't know, but I had Daimler Chrysler products the last two vehicles, and they didn't love me long time either. Transmission delays weren't exciting me anymore, and the number of electrical issues with my 300m told me to move on. Daimler Chrysler don't love you long time either I'm afraid. Just my experience.

unfortunately, someone is going to have bad experiences with a car company. no matter which company. hopefully for you your titan will surpass all your expectations and you will drive nissan forever if it makes you happy. you just happend to pick out a mechanically inept dodge, every company is going to drop an egg once in a while. you could have easily picked on of the millions that work fine everyday, but thats not how it went, so sorry to here your bad luck. but good luck with the titan, and in any posts i give you crap about your titan, i hope you understand your in a dodge forum and im just messing with you....sometimes.....other times you might deserve it and have it coming to you [sm=smiley2.gif].

Agreed! I had back to back "not so great" experiences with Daimler Chrysler, so I moved on to try something new.

any aftermarket parts for the titan at all? id imagine close to nothing, that kinda sucks right now, only because its fun modding up your vehicle.

Not much for parts yet. It's only been out for 3, really two months, so expect more in summer and fall.

I'm not changing anything on mine. Plenty of power for what I need it for. Not sure if it would beat a Hemi,
but it'll take just about any other stock pickup.

yeah, but it could be nice to make it aesthetically different from every other titan out there, maybe thats just me, i see tons of rams out there that, parked together in a lot, i wouldnt be able to pick mine out right away, i like mine to stand out.

Good point, but fortunately for me, due to limited inventories at this point I don't have to worry. I'm the only owner of a black crew cab in my metropolitan area, and will be until a few more orders come through for those early birds who special ordered.

If it has 4 doors, and it's black, it's mine.

ORIGINAL: sgbofav

ORIGINAL: jgralka

So dd just wondering, when you buy a jap truck do you have to send the money(and the jobs) to japan, or does the dealer take care of the dirty work?




HEMI an american legend, built in MEXICO. Tell DCX to bring it back home.


95 percent of the Titan truck is built and assembled in Smyrna Tenn. Since the plant is in Tenn , they employ Americans citizens to build the Titan. What is more American than a truck built in the USA, by Americans. Some profit going Back to Japan is not a bad thing. Dodge trucks assembled in Mexico, with the profits going back to Germany (which isn't very pro-American see the war on terror) is no more American than Nissan is today.

Research your facts before making a post about what is American and what is not .


I own two Dodge trucks, 1 GM car, I'm an NRA member, and I vote in every election so questioning my Patriotism is out of the question.



Research your facts?? Come-on, how much research did you do? I have my window sticker right in front of me, and my 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 was assembled in Fenton, Missouri. It consists of 75% US/Canadian made parts, which does not include the American assembly work. The Hemi engine is made in a brand new factory in Saltillo, Mexico. Your so-called Tennessee made Titan is actually assembled in Canton, Mississippi. The Titan's engine is made in the once cancelled Decherd, TN engine facility. I say once cancelled, because Nissan chose to build their engine plant along with the Sentra in Mexico first, pushing the Decherd ground breaking back until their sales picked up. A visit to your local Nissan dealer will determine the U.S. content of the Titan. It could be more, but it could be less than my German truck.

As far as profits, neither Nissan nor Daimler/Chrysler have seen any profits on these trucks. Both companies spent a lot of $$ on new facilities & new designs, in fact at least in the near term, the U.S. has been benefiting from their foreign investment.

I believe that my Nissan was build in Canton, MS. I didn't follow it here, and I didn't check each part to see where it was made, but there was some certificate or something saying it was made witha certain percentage of American made parts. Not sure if it was 100% or 30%.

I could care less if it was built here or in Japan. Most people who buy Nissans, Toyota's, Volkswagons, Hondas, Volvo's, etc probably could care less. What I find funny are the people who think that they buy buying their Big Three truck is some form of patriotism.

If we were worried about foreign parts and foreign labor, we should worry about foreign gas. Oh wait... crap, I need gas.

Fact is that if we had the great quality of vehicles 20 years ago in this country, the foreign automakers would not be making pickup trucks here. But copanies like GM kept building identical vehicles, throwing different grills and dash boards on them, and started calling them Oldsomobiles, Chevrolets, Buicks, Pontiacs, and Cadillacs. Worst part, they were all crap. If I was buying cars in the 80's I wish I would have been smart enough and open minded enough to buy an import.

ORIGINAL: dd564

But copanies like GM kept building identical vehicles, throwing different grills and dash boards on them, and started calling them Oldsomobiles, Chevrolets, Buicks, Pontiacs, and Cadillacs.


Luckily the Lexus ES330 isn't a rebadged Toyota Camry, likewise for the Lexus GX470, LX470, RX330 and the Toyota 4Runner, Land Cruiser, Highlander. What a relief that the Inifiti Q56, I35, G35 aren't the Nissan Armada, Maxima, Altima with differnet grill and dash. It's also good that the Porsche Cayanne, the Volkswagon Toureg, and the soon to be Audi SUV aren't the same SUV with different window dressing. I'm happy that your cleared that up for me.

It's sad that Oldmobile, Cheverolet, Buick, Pontiac, and Cadillac were created by some marketeer and weren't separate car companies at one time, unlike Lexus and Infiniti must have brought their own culture and style to their new peer companies to produce such unique vehicles.

ORIGINAL: BigDave

ORIGINAL: dd564

But copanies like GM kept building identical vehicles, throwing different grills and dash boards on them, and started calling them Oldsomobiles, Chevrolets, Buicks, Pontiacs, and Cadillacs.


Luckily the Lexus ES330 isn't a rebadged Toyota Camry, likewise for the Lexus GX470, LX470, RX330 and the Toyota 4Runner, Land Cruiser, Highlander. What a relief that the Inifiti Q56, I35, G35 aren't the Nissan Armada, Maxima, Altima with differnet grill and dash. It's also good that the Porsche Cayanne, the Volkswagon Toureg, and the soon to be Audi SUV aren't the same SUV with different window dressing. I'm happy that your cleared that up for me.

It's sad that Oldmobile, Cheverolet, Buick, Pontiac, and Cadillac were created by some marketeer and weren't separate car companies at one time, unlike Lexus and Infiniti must have brought their own culture and style to their new peer companies to produce such unique vehicles.


BigDave,

Of course all brands rebadge their vehicles, but Daimler Chrysler is actually one of the ones that do it better than other companies. My point was that in the 80's, the GM vehicles looked more similiar than any other two sister brands do now.

Example would have been the 1999 Chryslers and Dodges. Sure, similiarities, but they actually did look different. Same with Nissan & Infinite, Audi and Volkswagon, etc. etc.

ORIGINAL: BigDave

ORIGINAL: sgbofav

ORIGINAL: jgralka

So dd just wondering, when you buy a jap truck do you have to send the money(and the jobs) to japan, or does the dealer take care of the dirty work?




HEMI an american legend, built in MEXICO. Tell DCX to bring it back home.


95 percent of the Titan truck is built and assembled in Smyrna Tenn. Since the plant is in Tenn , they employ Americans citizens to build the Titan. What is more American than a truck built in the USA, by Americans. Some profit going Back to Japan is not a bad thing. Dodge trucks assembled in Mexico, with the profits going back to Germany (which isn't very pro-American see the war on terror) is no more American than Nissan is today.

Research your facts before making a post about what is American and what is not .


I own two Dodge trucks, 1 GM car, I'm an NRA member, and I vote in every election so questioning my Patriotism is out of the question.



Research your facts?? Come-on, how much research did you do? I have my window sticker right in front of me, and my 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 was assembled in Fenton, Missouri. It consists of 75% US/Canadian made parts, which does not include the American assembly work. The Hemi engine is made in a brand new factory in Saltillo, Mexico. Your so-called Tennessee made Titan is actually assembled in Canton, Mississippi. The Titan's engine is made in the once cancelled Decherd, TN engine facility. I say once cancelled, because Nissan chose to build their engine plant along with the Sentra in Mexico first, pushing the Decherd ground breaking back until their sales picked up. A visit to your local Nissan dealer will determine the U.S. content of the Titan. It could be more, but it could be less than my German truck.

As far as profits, neither Nissan nor Daimler/Chrysler have seen any profits on these trucks. Both companies spent a lot of $$ on new facilities & new designs, in fact at least in the near term, the U.S. has been benefiting from their foreign investment.



No matter how you put it, Dodges aren't 100% American, neither are Fords and Chevies for that matter.

I don't own a Titan, I own two dodge trucks, here is a picture http://dodgetrucks.org/photopost/data/378Twotrucks-med.jpg


Another fact is they claim they can tow more? What a crock...
Since the Titan is a weeker truck, what they did is use a Stage 5 towing hitch which I don't care WHAT you put that on, of course it will tow
more. All Dodge and Ford trucks have the option for Stage 5. Previous trucks only used Stage 2, 3 or 4 at the most. Stage 5 is reserved for the big Heavy Duties. So, put a Stage 5 on a RAM Hemi...and what happens? You can pull near 5000 more lbs than the Nissan Titan with the same Stage 5 Hitch..


Are you saying that all Dodge trucks even 1500 1/2 tons can be ordered with a stage 5 hitch or just "Big Heavy Duties" ? Your asking for trouble if you put a class 5 hitch on a 1/2 ton truck and tow a class 5 trailer, regardless of brand.

The Titan is a 1/2 ton truck not a 3/4 or 1 ton truck. Of course a 2500 or 3500 Ram will have a larger towing capacity, it was designed for that purpose (stiffer frame, stronger axles, stronger suspension).

Compare apples with apples, not 1/2 ton Titans to 3/4 and 1 ton Rams that can tow more.

Volkswagon Pasat & Audi A6 has something more than a different grill? Wait a minute the Toyota Camry and the Lexus ES330 have the same grill, or at least the same set of ugly headlights. Chevy's were different from Buicks, and different from Cadillacs, they shared platforms and engines for the most part, but they were as different as many of today's rebadged siblings. I think the difference that you are applying to yesteryear versus today, is that Chevy and Buick offered vehicles in pretty much the same price range, where as today it luxury brands with more bells and whistles are for the most part rebadged common brands.

I think the difference is, GM rebadged into Buick, Chevy, Olds, Pontiac, Cadillac. 4 or 5 Brands.

You bought a Chevy, then moved to Pontiac, then Olds or Buick, then Cadillac. So you had to go through 5 brands before yo foud out you might want to try an actual "different" car.

The bells and whistles are the difference. I think you are right with VW and Audi getting to look more similiar though.

I could care less if it was built here or in Japan. Most people who buy Nissans, Toyota's, Volkswagons, Hondas, Volvo's, etc probably could care less. What I find funny are the people who think that they buy buying their Big Three truck is some form of patriotism.
dd564

See dd thats the problem right there. You don't care if I or the 125000 union members of DCX plus the 40-50 thousand management members have a job. Or the other hundreds of thousands of GM or Ford workers have a job. DD how you like it if you knew people were doing something on purpose that was going to put you out of a job? I assume you must have a job to buy a $30000 truck. Thats the point here, I take it personally when I see a toyo or nissan or what ever else on the road. I don't think it has anything to your patriotism, just your basic knowledge of the Americian economy. And you probably are one of those people who wonder why the economy is in bad shape. People like you are not helping.

jgralka

You can thank the unions as well by pricing our labor force out of the market. They are every bit as guilty as the person buying imported goods. It's all about bottom line. Think about this next time the union tells you to strike, what are you doing to the economy, or the bottom line of producing our cars.
I grew up in Pittsburgh PA. during the 70's, and saw unions run the steel industry into the ground. It really sucked. I truely hope it's not going to happen to our auto makers.

Who cares what dd564's reasons were for buying the Titan. We have to have someone to pick on.

So let me get this straight, its the unions fault for fighting for better pay and benefits for its members? The companies did not agree to these contracts? Please save that for the day when I make a tenth as much as Deiter does. The problem lies with the consumer. You wanted lower prices, this is the result. Cheap prices = Cheap labor PEROID. Plus labor is the least expensive part of a car, last report I saw was about 10 percent of sticker. Like the HEMI is cheaper to produce than the 4.7 according to DCX. I wonder why? The only way they will stop building the HEMI down there is if we stop buying it. But hey I'd pick on anybody that would buy a truck as ugly a titan.

Yeah, that's about it. The companies did agree to these contracts, despite being exorbitant, but have to offset the cost of your pay with "El cheapo" labor over the border. Do you shoulder a tenth of the burden that Dieter does? Unfortunately, I don't have any stats but I'll take a shot with yours. That 10% of sticker you quote for labor, could it be diluted by the cost of "El cheapo" labor across the border. I mean, these people are willing to work for pennies on the dollar compared to you. That is what accounting and finance thinks they should be paying you.
Unions did serve the labor force for the good years ago. Today, with all the labor law, they've outlived their usefulness. I'm curious though, what it is that you do for DCX?
The UAW does a good job with the vehicles they are building, and the foreign companies can keep their cars. I'm a die hard Mopar person who hopes there will always be a Mopar to drive. I can't see myself in that butt-ugly Titan.

ORIGINAL: jgralka

See dd thats the problem right there. You don't care if I or the 125000 union members of DCX plus the 40-50 thousand management members have a job. Or the other hundreds of thousands of GM or Ford workers have a job. DD how you like it if you knew people were doing something on purpose that was going to put you out of a job? I assume you must have a job to buy a $30000 truck. Thats the point here, I take it personally when I see a toyo or nissan or what ever else on the road. I don't think it has anything to your patriotism, just your basic knowledge of the Americian economy. And you probably are one of those people who wonder why the economy is in bad shape. People like you are not helping.


I'm not sure how this is my fault. I've purchased all GM and Chrysler vehicles to this point, and now have purchased a truck built in Mississippi. If I went the Dodge route, it would have been made in Mexico I believe.

But hey I'd pick on anybody that would buy a truck as ugly a titan.

Ugly is an opinion. It seems to be the most popular complaint about the Titan so far. I actually love the way it looks, and I kind of like the "Fugly" comments which tells me it's definitely different looking than any other full size out there.

If I went the Dodge route, it would have been made in Mexico I believe.

If you went the Dodge route, it would have been made in Fenton, Missouri U.S.A.

I did checkout the Titan's window sticker, which say it has 60% U.S./Canadian content which classifies it as an American built truck. The VIN also starts with a "1." As I said somewhere in the forums, my Dodge's sticker says 75% U.S./Canadian. Whether we realize it or not, we are all talking about shades of gray, rather than black and white.

Well, either way, I had my fill of Dodge problems, so the hemi wasn't an option.

Mopartodd,

To answer your question, I'm a jobsetter, or a machine operator at Mack Avenue Engine I in detroit. We build the 4.7, and Mack II builds the 3.7. I understand why you don't think the unions are useful, but to really understand I think you have to be in the manufacturing realm to see the differance. Also I love how everybody hates the UAW, but would jump at the chance to work in a union shop. The union has done more for non union shops than union shops. Union wages are the high mark and everyone else sets their wage lower based on the union wage. So guess what if I make less so does the guy in the small non union shop. So the unions are helping far more than just the union members. Look at the jap plants that are over here, do you think they pay the same as the big three out of the kindness of their heart? They pay it to keep the unions out. But I feel for their empolyees when they go to retire. They have no contract to ensure they will recieve a pension like we do. They have to trust the companies to honor their word. And we've been seeing lately how well corprate america keeps its word. Please don't get me wrong I think the union needs some BIG changes, but we still need them.

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ORIGINAL: Roadswimmer

Sorry, didn't see there was 5 pages, LOL.........I should learn how to run this site better:) I was soooo pissed after the first page.

Sorry again about all the flamin' above ...
Its funny though, ain't it?

I thought it was![sm=smiley36.gif]

WOW I find it incoceiveable, I smoked a Titan when I was bringing my truck home from the dealership.

ORIGINAL: Deviousin10tions

WOW I find it incoceiveable, I smoked a Titan when I was bringing my truck home from the dealership.


See, now this is a good example of BS being posted again.

First, barely any Titan's to race that are out there. Like a few hundred per state.

2nd, the other guy is driving a Titan, he's still in the break in period, as is this guy. So you got two guys beating the pi$$ out of there new trucks. Not likely.

Also, I wouldn't say inconceivable, the other guy might not be as quick to the pedal as you.

blah blah blah!!!

Sorry I just had to post something to this one. Everyone and their mother has had at least one post.

this has gotten.... off topic? and if your still looking for titan vs hemi check out my post here http://www.dodgeforum.com/tm.asp?m=21914

Here's a fun fact for the Titan owners who think they have it...I smoked a Titan today and will continue to do so with my little 4.7...wow it took some work to get there but eat your heart out Titan...I still DRIVE A DODGE....What you think about that????

This will never be settled untill someone takes a video camera, a hemi, a titan, and two people smart enough to know how to race, to a 1/4 track and shows us once and for all who would win.

PHEW!!! 30 minutes later i finished reading the forum!! wow, ya'll are brutal, dd did lie but he came out and said it a few pages previous and dodgegirl told him to be nice so he has been, he's been trying to make nice conversation with everyone and all he gets back is blah blah blah, and you suck and it's ugly. I just bought an 04 gtx so i'm a hemi owner but i know people that think ram's are ugly, opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one, and they are better kept to yourself! you can dog me but he seems like a nice guy and is willing to deal with owning a nissan!! Maybe just maybe he thinks everyone here is cool and wants to chill on here, i would for damn sure be defending my truck when someone says it's jap but the dodge is only 15% more american????? yes it's based in a jap country but is made by hard working americans for the most part. I too work in a union UTU for the railroad, i absolutely hate the union b/c it has screwed the younger guys to make the older guys happy, but without it i probably wouldn't make half as much as i do, and wouldn't have the benifits/retirement that i will have (if it ever gets here 40 years later). I have owned 12 gm vehicles, and all treated me really really well, 1 ford and POS!!!!!!! and 4 dodge/plymouth's, but he's done everything everyone has asked of him to make this topic turn around so i would probably cut him some slack, he seems like someone i'd hang out with and just b/c he owns a nissan don't make him a horrible guy, he's had problems with DCX, and i wouldn't buy another one either but he's gotta have some dodge blood if he's on here!!

DD i personally loved the titans when they came out, but haven't seen one or read anything about them!! apples to apples, his wasn't made for speed and if you get a "freak" (oddly alot faster than the others, which does happen) you might just beat a "freak" (slow) hemi, but i don't get why you posted a topic that didn't happen, but it's cool you apologized and made it right!!!

I say MOPAR OR NO CAR!!!! I make my Misinformed buddy's park there gm crap in the street close to the guy next door.Dont want even someone i dont know thinking it belongs here.When i got hooked:( my wife came with a 65 mustang its close to being gone:) So when i see you saying DODGE DODGE DODGE and yes i have a gm to it make me uneasy.Step in to the light,go all MOPAR it will make everything Better and put your mind at ease.my wife has a 98 platinum Intrepid es for two years now and loves it,the cops love it too maybe i should put orange #40 on the doors and hood.

ORIGINAL: jgralka

So dd just wondering, when you buy a jap truck do you have to send the money(and the jobs) to japan, or does the dealer take care of the dirty work?




HEMI an american legend, built in MEXICO. Tell DCX to bring it back home.



You're an ignorant bastard. How many AMERICANS assemble the Titans down south? LOTS.
That would lead me to believe that there is plenty of $$$ sent to the USA to give the workers there very good paying jobs building fine trucks.

Next time you pass a Taco Bell, think of DODGE.

I bet you have a Confederate flag on the front of your ride, and your name is Bubba, right?

Go find a Nissan board somewhere[sm=smiley8.gif]. I'd have an attitude too if my truck was that frickin ugly.

Funny how this thread has been dead for over 5 months and you just pull it up. dd564 is that you?[sm=smiley8.gif]

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

Go find a Nissan board somewhere[sm=smiley8.gif]. I'd have an attitude too if my truck was that frickin ugly.



Another sore Dodge owner who realizes the truth...........it may be ugly, but its FAST!

The one I stomped last week wasn't. Nice try fry.

Your mommy know your on her computer.[sm=lol.gif]

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

The one I stomped last week wasn't. Nice try fry.



yeah, a modded Hemi vs. a stock Titan. Thats a typical fair fight to a Dodge owner.

ORIGINAL: mopartodd

Your mommy know your on her computer.[sm=lol.gif]



yeah, she is sitting next to me. :D

Learn to read dork. NO mods. Tell your mommy to slap you.

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ORIGINAL: mopartodd

Learn to read dork. NO mods. Tell your mommy to slap you.

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nah, I might like it!

From what I can tell, you probably would.[sm=smiley29.gif]

Wow name calling isn't that nice. Before you start calling people ingnorant you might just want to check your facts. First of all most rams are built here, either in st louis or in warren mi. I should know I WORK THERE! Sorry no flag that would not go over well in the metro detroit area. I already corrected your other moronic rant. So how many is "lots" I'd say about 3000 people. Wow, dcx has well over a hundred thousand AMERICAN workers. 3000 seems like a drop in the bucket eh?

So your american built truck is made completely out of foreign junk, nice!;)

Now you have a nice day in lala land okay!:D

Joe

The troll are out.[sm=lol.gif]

Again I must say... BE NICE everyone... TheMightyTITAN! Isn't causing trouble... he has every right to be here.

~Amanda

ORIGINAL: TheMightyTITAN!

You're an ignorant bastard. How many AMERICANS assemble the Titans down south? LOTS.
That would lead me to believe that there is plenty of $$$ sent to the USA to give the workers there very good paying jobs building fine trucks.

Next time you pass a Taco Bell, think of DODGE.

I bet you have a Confederate flag on the front of your ride, and your name is Bubba, right?



Uh Amanda if thats not "causing trouble" I'm not quite sure what is then.

Joe

ORIGINAL: jgralka

ORIGINAL: TheMightyTITAN!

You're an ignorant bastard. How many AMERICANS assemble the Titans down south? LOTS.
That would lead me to believe that there is plenty of $$$ sent to the USA to give the workers there very good paying jobs building fine trucks.

Next time you pass a Taco Bell, think of DODGE.

I bet you have a Confederate flag on the front of your ride, and your name is Bubba, right?



Uh Amanda if thats not "causing trouble" I'm not quite sure what is then.

Joe


Hows it causing trouble? Its a FACT that Nissans are assembled in the US!
the same can't be said for the Senors and Senoritas building your Dodges.

quote themightytitan

You're an ignorant bastard. How many AMERICANS assemble the Titans down south? LOTS.
That would lead me to believe that there is plenty of $$$ sent to the USA to give the workers there very good paying jobs building fine trucks.

Next time you pass a Taco Bell, think of DODGE.

I bet you have a Confederate flag on the front of your ride, and your name is Bubba, right?



OK. So calling somebody a bastard isn't considered causing trouble? [sm=smiley21.gif]

I could care less about the conversation and I love my new rumble bee, but I do not think it is appropriate to use senior or seniorita or even to refer to taco bell. I am hispanic and take great pride in being American

Cool. We appreciate your and respect your heritage.[sm=smiley20.gif] But I absolutely love bean burritos.[sm=smiley2.gif]

The thread that wouldn't die!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

true

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a stock 345 and my torque from 400 to a stock 375, and I will still bet money that I beat the Titan. The lightest version of the 4.7 could still hang with the Titan (which I own and have been looking for a Titan). Titan owners shouldn't even think about the SRT Ram, but then again, it beats cars such as the BMW M3, Subaru WRX 2.5 STi, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, and most importantly, the Ford Lightning, it even beats the Ford Lightning with 650lbs of weight in the bet, but the SRT is intended for

Hi, vHiEpMeIr

You said you now have 360 hp and 400 of torque, how did you get those (I want those too in my truck, but not by spending lot-a-buck.)

Good one

As does my father who strange enough works at warren truck assembly where they build.... you guessed it dodge trucks, rams and dakotas. They are also built in St. Loius and yes in mexico. But mexico builds 12 per hour while I believe St Louis is about 40 per hour and warren builds 65-80 per hour. So I wonder where most of the dodges come from. Also nissan has what one or two plants here, and they are just assy plants, no stamping or powertrain. And ask them where ALL of there suppliers are, you guessed it again JAPAN. No chrysler isn't perfect, they build a few things in mexico that does not make me happy, but you have to pick the lesser of the two evils. Sorry foreign makes don't cut it my book. How would you like it if you knew you were getting put out of work because flag flying Americans were too stupid to relize that if you keep buying foriegn products we lose jobs? Well let me tell you it gets very unnerving. Why do you think they are putting up plants over here? So they can fool us into thinking, well it is made here. But what you are forgetting is that you are not only putting the big 3 worker out of a job, but all the supply chains in between. Nissan just as American as Chrysler? Now that is rich, they have what 5000 or so employees we have 125000 in the states alone. You also seem to forget the Chrysler group is still based out of Auburn Hills Mich. Yes I'm sure some gets back to Germany, but once again its one of those better of two evils.

Youre saying that in Mexico we are producing about 10 or 11 (by your numbers) percent of the Rams, wrong. Deiter Zetsche, informed that in this year the Saltillo (Derramadero) plant produced 170,913 trucks, and that is the 33.4% of the total production, and there are plans to impulse the production in that plant for the year 2006 by investing 1,254 millions.

So for a moment there it would be nice to stop thinking where the things are made, I dont know, if I buy a car, a boat, a dog, a knife, a computer, and any other stuff you can think of, the last factor that I would consider it would be where it came from, and belive me everything get a balance, if american companies are producing in other countries, as well japs and germans are employing american people, beginning with the fact that DC is not a "pure" american company, we are living the globalization, the TLC (Tratado de libre Comercio) is opening even more the borders of Mexico US and Canada, and then we need to open our minds and accept it, we see China the same way that you see Mexico, "they are taking our jobs" and things like that, but if they have those jobs is because in someway they are best suited for them.

By the wey, Nissan suppliers are not from Japan (mostly), Nissan AND Renault (along with they millionare alliance) made a deal with US suppliers that was in 2001 of 45 % of all the components, and the goal for 2005 was for 80 % and they may be over achieving that goal by now, you should read the news. THE JAPS ARE CREATING 2,000 NEW JOBS FOR MISSISSIPPI!!!

Its logic, or did you think that it would be better to order overnight deliveries from japan??
You think that in a Nissan forum there are some angry Japs because "americans are taking our jobs" nop....


http://www.conway.com/ssinsider/bbdeal/bd011217.htm

And finally, I didnt bought my Hemi Ram because its engine was made in Mexico or some patriotism, just because I like IT and thats all.

I keep telling you guys I have a RC/SB ram with a hemi.........I just can't get those poor titan owners to even lunge at any stoplight. They just look the other way, basically they know they will get OWNED![&:][8D]:D

Let me fuel this fire-my truck really can whoop a HEMI!!!:D