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Oddball - 4/26/2008 4:26:26 AM   
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Ok, got a 92 3.9L that likes to play a twisted game.  It will run around fine all day, but once or twice a month it will not start back up after a short stop.
If I sit and wait between 2 to 20 minutes it starts and runs FINE. Untill yesterday when it pulled this stunt and stayed dead, I have fire, And Fuel Pressure at the rail, but no fuel goin into the intake.
I was told that the pump may not be delivering the RIGHT amount of pressure, but I have a feeling this has something to do with the computer... oh and the fuse-link under the power dist. box for the ASR has already been replaced... any ideas?
anyone else with a possesed 3.9?!


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RE: Oddball - 4/26/2008 4:50:21 AM   
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You know my 92 3.9l 2wd did about the same thing.  Ran great never had any problems but every once in a while I would be coming to a stop or slowing down into a turn and it would just die.  Let it sit for a second and it would start right back up and it wouldn't repeat the problem for another good period of time, maybe once or twice a month at the most.  Strange no idea what caused it and I sold it before I could try to figure it out you might talk to a mechanic well versed in dodge mechanics and see if its a common issue amongst the 92-93 model years or with the 3.9l in general.

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RE: Oddball - 4/26/2008 7:11:25 AM   
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Sounds more like a pump than the computer.  Have you tried to pull the codes off the computer?

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RE: Oddball - 4/26/2008 7:37:51 AM   
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check your fuel filter. might be something plugging it up.

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RE: Oddball - 4/26/2008 8:03:38 AM   
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sounds like the asd relay or the fse, i think dodgerules86 made a post on the faqs or how too section about the bad splice or what ever it is, lol.

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RE: Oddball - 4/26/2008 9:02:29 AM   
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I agree with bad96

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RE: Oddball - 4/26/2008 11:46:33 PM   
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Probably not the fuel filter, I replaced the fuel filter in my 92 and it still did it after the fact.

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RE: Oddball - 4/27/2008 6:45:27 AM   
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Yup, Fuel filter is less than 600 miles old, ASD relay splice has been replaced and run since.
I got the flash codes,  #17 Closed loop temp not reached or engine cold too long, which was set when the temp sending unit was shot, has since been replaced but I think it kicks that code due to the 180 thermo I left in it.. Supposed to reach 193-196 I think..

The other code was     #37 Torque converter clutch solenoid CKT or park/neutral switch failure... But wouldn't neutral safety switch cause the ignition not to try at all? As I said, I have good strong starter spin, compression sounds fine, it acts like it wants to hit, and will if you give it a lil gas into the TB so I obviously have timing and fire, just no fuel delivery...

Ok can someone tell me how much pressure I should have at the rail?
And can a standard test light even read the 4Volt injector pulse?
If not how can I test for pulse?


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RE: Oddball - 4/27/2008 6:47:30 AM   
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oh and just to be on the safe side I popped new relays in for fuel pump and ASD...

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RE: Oddball - 4/27/2008 7:03:40 AM   
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the make these little diodes that you plug in between the injector and plug and they light up if it is working. i think the fuel pressure is between 30 and 40, dont have my service manual with me so i am not sure. but i am not sure if you can rent the injector things or you have to buy them, a mechanic shop should have some though...

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RE: Oddball - 5/1/2008 11:06:23 PM   
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got it runnin, had pulse goin to injectors, voltage in the harness to the pump and no pressure on the rails. New pump installed, good as gold.

Thanks a million for the ideas fellas!!!


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