Can the viper stand up to this?
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 4/25/2008 7:54:45 PM
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94rt10ohio
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Very old old news. You should also go to dodge.com and build a 08 Viper for fun.
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 4/26/2008 2:30:39 AM
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It'll leave the Viper in the straight for sure.
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 4/26/2008 4:09:24 AM
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sorry if it was old news. I just joined this website. I happened to just stumble across that info. Mainly because I just got a computer! lol So I am just now coming up to the new technology! haha
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 4/27/2008 12:12:34 AM
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It should beat the Viper in a straight line...going through the twists will be interesting...
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 4/28/2008 3:58:50 AM
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Wonder what Dodge plans to do after they oust the Viper? Maybe they will make something better, you don't need a v10 to make 600 horsepower.
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 4/28/2008 8:24:39 AM
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It is always a goal to make something "better", however many times goals are not achieved and therefore a risk to build something completely new. This is one reason automakers love the retro concepts, they know the look will be accepted, and even better, the majority of the people accepting it are a older generation with $$ sitting in the bank.
I still say a interesting replacement would be some kind of 70 Cuda redesign. Wider, shorter and lower of course. Would be able to share SOME components of the Challenger, which is good for both Chrylser (cost) and the buyer for the same reason.
In my opinion this car should not have any power options, radio, or even a back seat. The car should only have the following things to be concerned with..... Style and performance. Screw the cup holders, MPGs, seat heaters and digital displays telling me it is time for a oil change or what my 0-60 is. Some will say saftely should be a concern, but as long as it passes the fed standards that is all it needs. A car like this is NOT safe. Safety in a car like this is up to the driver, not the automaker.
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 4/29/2008 5:22:12 AM
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Well if dodge does get rid of the viper, they better replace it with another v10 because from what I've seen dodge doesn't have a real powerhouse v8 like chevy does. One of my buddys have the dodge magnum srt8, and the best 1/4 mile times he can get is 14.1. For there high v8 they should be able to do better than that. My other buddy has an 02 camaro ss anniversary edition with the SLP package, and he consistenly runs right at 13. In the 1/4 mile that equals what about 10-12 car lengths?
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 4/29/2008 6:28:10 AM
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94rt10ohio
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Well if dodge does get rid of the viper, they better replace it with another v10 because from what I've seen dodge doesn't have a real powerhouse v8 like chevy does. One of my buddys have the dodge magnum srt8, and the best 1/4 mile times he can get is 14.1. For there high v8 they should be able to do better than that. My other buddy has an 02 camaro ss anniversary edition with the SLP package, and he consistenly runs right at 13. In the 1/4 mile that equals what about 10-12 car lengths?
They have the engines, just not in a production car. You are also comparing cars in different classes. Dodge does not ahve anything in the pony car class, well they do now with the Challenger.
http://www.mopar.com/muscle/whatshot1005.htm
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 4/29/2008 6:39:38 AM
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ORIGINAL: vipermaan
Well if dodge does get rid of the viper, they better replace it with another v10 because from what I've seen dodge doesn't have a real powerhouse v8 like chevy does. One of my buddys have the dodge magnum srt8, and the best 1/4 mile times he can get is 14.1. For there high v8 they should be able to do better than that. My other buddy has an 02 camaro ss anniversary edition with the SLP package, and he consistenly runs right at 13. In the 1/4 mile that equals what about 10-12 car lengths?
They have the engines, just not in a production car. You are also comparing cars in different classes. Dodge does not ahve anything in the pony car class, well they do now with the Challenger.
http://www.mopar.com/muscle/whatshot1005.htm
Not to mention the LX cars weigh like 9 tons...
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 5/12/2008 11:02:03 PM
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they had the Charger.... with 4 doors
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 5/17/2008 12:09:54 AM
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The question is whether the Viper will stand up to the 'Blue Devil"
Personally... I think yes, b/c with ... what is it now 4 already being made models (w/o convertible variants), that are on-par with older Viper models, noone is going to be paying $100k for a Vette, when they can get a just as good, (albeit non Viper beating) vette for about 46k... or a Viper for the $100k
Honestly... the Vette is great and all... but it just won't quit trying to be better than the Viper (considering the name is over 50 years old... it should be... but alas...)
Chrysler beat the Vette to the punch... deal with it, and move on
But, as the auto business goes... it's all about competition...
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 7/2/2008 1:04:52 PM
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The question is whether the Viper will stand up to the ''''Blue Devil"
Personally... I think yes, b/c with ... what is it now 4 already being made models (w/o convertible variants), that are on-par with older Viper models, noone is going to be paying $100k for a Vette, when they can get a just as good, (albeit non Viper beating) vette for about 46k... or a Viper for the $100k
Honestly... the Vette is great and all... but it just won''''t quit trying to be better than the Viper (considering the name is over 50 years old... it should be... but alas...)
Chrysler beat the Vette to the punch... deal with it, and move on
But, as the auto business goes... it''''s all about competition...
I hate to disagree, but the new ZR1 is one bad a** machine. It''''ll beat out the Viper in a straight line and it will absolutely murder the Viper in the twisty''''s. Chevy got it right this time and the ZR1 is definitely the fastest US-production vehicle ever made. And who will pay $100k for the new Vette? A lot of people...dealership premiums are expected to be near $20k and they already have a ton on pre-order.
I think the Viper will be around for a while though, despite the hard times that auto manufacturers are facing. The Viper is their flagship performance vehicle, it''ll just take Dodge a little R&D and time until they super/turbo-charge the Viper to one-up the new Vette. Like you said, it''''s all about competition...
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RE: Can the viper stand up to this? - 7/3/2008 1:15:53 PM
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Yeah. The ZR1 is a beast. I hear that GM might go down if they don''t pick up things within the next year too. I hear Toyota might buy them out.
Maybe if they made more efficient cars in the US they wouldn''t have a problem. Seems to me as if they can''t keep up with the other cars in terms of mpg etc.
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Also everything I've been researching about this new vette shows it beating the viper in about everything. I bet Dodge will get them back next year though. Are they going to redisign the Viper again, or are they eliminating it too? I wish I could go back 10 years so I would be able to not see the end of the viper. I hope its just rumors. Does anyone of any insight on this last viper thing?