RE: Running truck with added water power
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RE: Running truck with added water power - 4/25/2008 10:35:11 AM
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JasonA
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Edit. Format messed up. Please disregard.
< Message edited by JasonA -- 4/25/2008 10:43:15 AM >
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RE: Running truck with added water power - 4/25/2008 10:38:30 AM
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rpowell
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What 'system' are you talking about (i.e. software)? I can click that link on several pc's and never get anything like that and I have a firewall and active I-net virus protection.
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RE: Running truck with added water power - 4/25/2008 10:46:17 AM
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JasonA
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The ISP (dunno who it is, I am at work). The format of the screen copy/paste got messed up and looked jumbled so I just deleted it.
Someone must have submitted that ISP as "Dubious/Unsavory" -- that was the category it was filed under (as you originally saw).
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RE: Running truck with added water power - 4/25/2008 10:48:33 AM
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JasonA
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I hope you're not buying anything from whomever sent you that scathing response about their competitor. That was 100% unprofessional of them to ridicule a fellow competitor like that. If that's how they handle their operations, I don't think I'd give them a penny.
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RE: Running truck with added water power - 4/25/2008 11:00:52 AM
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rpowell
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That was not a company that sells any particular product or brand. That web-site is made up of info that hundreds of people (some professional some not so) submit their findings and then they are posted by what the majority of the findings are. Everything stated in that response is true even if you don't agree with how he said it. Don't take this person's opinion or tone personal, sometimes you have to just take the useful info and throw the rest out, we are all human after all.
The point was companies are giving false warnings in order to keep people from trying inexpensive means of reaching the same goal. Why would they list things on their web-site as factual when their not, answer: so you will buy their product. Keep in mind I am very neutral in all this, as I stated I am going to buy some products from Protium, I just don't like it when companies say something that is not true. I mean stating that baking soda will "kill" you is a pretty bold statement.
I will let you know my findings after I try this stuff. If it works I will be very happy, if not at least I didn't spend $1000 trying.
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RE: Running truck with added water power - 5/12/2008 2:22:59 PM
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TOOSTUBBORN2FAIL
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This is a response posted by Djseth in the neon forum, my dad, an electrical engineer with a masters and doctorate in physics agrees
Hey guys, its a scam. I am a mechanical engineer, and I get paid to try and develop things like this. If it worked, do you think they would be selling plans for a few bucks? Usually my company will spend around 100K trying to devlop something like this.
If you study physics and thermodydamics, you can see that this doesn't really do much. As you try and use electrolysis to seperate water (with some sort of salt additive, because pure water doesn't support electrical flux you must use a solution), you make an exponentially higher resistive circut for the alternator or battey to combat. As you do this, the stress of the engine increases. This in turn, will cause a reduction is performance and fuel economy. Furthermore, the stoichiometry doesn't support the claims they make. The volume of water doesn't make that much H-OH (hydorgen hydroxide) to burn. V=IR so if you increase the resistance, the current must drop to sustain the same voltage. This means that you could potientially put a serious drain on your electrial system.
Simply put the basic laws of thermodynamics apply. You can't get more energy out of a system then you put into it. This being the case, to seperate water, combust it, and have the main byproduct be water, doesn't put you at a higher energy level than when the system started. You are not introducing more energy in the form of work into or out of the system. All things being equal, you must account for added system losses.
Sorry, it just won't work. If you buy it, more power to you. Please reply with any findings that you come up with.
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