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Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 3/25/2008 8:18:12 AM   
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I posted on this forum months ago to ask about where to buy a viper and yall were kind enough to point me in the right direction, and now I am the new owner of a black 08 Viper. I am not as technical as 99% of the people here and will provide more information as I receive it from my dealer, but my 08 Viper is in the shop and is UNFIXABLE per Chryslers Viper team.

As of right now I know for a fact SEVERAL 08 vipers all over the country are having the same problem. It is a massive failure in either the programming and or a coil on a valve. All I know is I was going 70mph and my power dropped massively and I couldn't use 80% of my horsepower and my check engine light blinked. I got off the road as quick as possible. My vehicle has 165 miles on it and I was respecting a smooth break in period of at least 1,000 miles.

Apparently Chrysler is already formulating a packet for all dealers to prepare for the fix but the packet doesn't include the actual fix due to the fact there isnt one yet. I have already heard talks of a potential buy back. Regardless the 08 Vipers were NOT ready for distribution and I am one annoyed Viper owner.


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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 3/25/2008 4:19:37 PM   
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That sucks. That's exactly why you shouldn't ever buy the first year of any newly designed car.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 3/25/2008 4:28:17 PM   
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I have never been the "wait and see" type. That approach is a little too passive for me.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 3/26/2008 10:42:58 AM   
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Damn that sucks dude. I'm sorry to hear it. I remember reading not to log ago they completely redid the viper. They wanted to beat the 500bhp that Mustang and Corvette were bragging about.

This is just a suggestion but maybe pick up an SRT8 and get the mods on it? I know it's not a viper but it might be worth the money spent.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 3/27/2008 9:39:07 AM   
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I can tell you one thing - before this happened it destroyed any Mustang or Corvette. The car is a beast - the production was hasty. It is a frustrating problem but the issue here isnt the quality of the vehicle it is the lack of focus at Dodge.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 3/27/2008 5:57:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: qcrider

I can tell you one thing - before this happened it destroyed any Mustang or Corvette. The car is a beast - the production was hasty. It is a frustrating problem but the issue here isnt the quality of the vehicle it is the lack of focus at Dodge.


I agree 1000%. I remember in highschool when they came out. I saw a show that did a shoot out between Viper, ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Vette, Lambo all the good ones.It was top speed, cornering, all sorts of stuff.  For three years straight the viper was king of the show.

They just threw it together after stopping production for one year and didn't do the research and development to work the bugs out. KInda makes you nervous about the Challenger.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 3/30/2008 1:32:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OhioGearHead

Damn that sucks dude. I'm sorry to hear it. I remember reading not to log ago they completely redid the viper. They wanted to beat the 500bhp that Mustang and Corvette were bragging about.

This is just a suggestion but maybe pick up an SRT8 and get the mods on it? I know it's not a viper but it might be worth the money spent.


Beating the 500 hp Mustang was never a problem for the 500 hp Vipers. Those Mustangs are heavy. The 505 hp Zo6 on the other hand, well that was the reason Viper had to step it up.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 3/30/2008 11:17:02 PM   
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This is not good. The Viper was getting beat by the Z06, which was shown by the magazines.So DC stopped production and there was no 2007 Viper. DC rushed and came out with the 2008 Viper. Now they have a Z06 killer but problems with the 08 Viper. Even the engineers admitted that the 08 Viper was rushed into production.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 3/31/2008 9:52:43 AM   
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I now have confirmed issues on two more 08s with less than 500 miles on them.

I also have confirmed 08s with well over 1K on them and not one issue yet.

Also heard all cars are stuck in a I status right now.  Not sure if that means inventory or what, but they are not moving and Dodge is not taking any new 08 orders.



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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 4/3/2008 5:37:29 AM   
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I heard this. The problem was diagnosed, was very isolated, and extremely minor - no replacement parts or hard labor required.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 4/7/2008 10:11:17 AM   
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Bummer! Hope it gets resolved soon.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 4/7/2008 10:14:53 AM   
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It is resolved, but the handful of cars may still need to fix applied, at least to my latest knowledge.  All dealers now have the TSB, which only involves a PCM flash.

No matter how much you test, the first year of a new model car, or in this case drive train, is bound to have its issues that need worked out.  Funny, you pay extra in most cases to have the latest and greatest and you turn out to be testers for the others who decided to buy in 09 or 10 and they will probably pay less.  Sometimes waiting is the best thing you can do.

Alex, let me know ifyou car has the PCM flash, if not send me a PM.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 4/13/2008 8:00:06 PM   
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What is PCM flash and how does it fix the problem?

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 4/14/2008 5:13:54 AM   
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PCM falsh is car lingo for re-porgramming of the computer.

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RE: Massive 08 Viper problems !!! - 4/14/2008 3:11:14 PM   
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Thanks all for the help! It is the PCM Flash dealio.

I am in the midst of a secondary problem that this process has stemmed. Which is Dodges reaction to this: ZERO

I called customer service and got a # (complaint order of sorts) which was supposed to get a District manager or GM of a store to contact me. Not to mention I left messages for my local dealer and got ignored . To make matters worse my car is not fixed and my dealership hasnt heard of the "fix" yet!!!!

One issue to this whole deal may be the dealership doesn't have my car in their possession due to the fact I was not comfortable with them storing my car in a open lot for 3 1/2 weeks in the sun and rain! I moved the car WITH MY OWN EXPENSE since they were unable to store my brand new Viper in a non damaging manner! This should not effect receiving a phone call to bring the car back to fix it!


Who tree can I bark up to get someone to give a crap about the fact I have not RECEIVED a single phone call on this matter from anyone AT ALL? Is a law suit in order? I have documentation of every conversation and all interaction. This is not right.

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