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2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/17/2008 6:32:48 AM   
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http://jalopnik.com/367820/2009-pontiac-g8-gxp-revealed-gets-corvette-ls3-power-and-a-manual-transmission

Finally, we have our first official SRT-8 LX sedan competitor, and this one has some serious bite...

6.2L V8 LS3 - 402hp & 402ftlbs of torque

6 speed Hydra-Matic 6L80 automatic transmission standard (3.27 gearing)

6 speed Tremec TR6060 manual transmission optional (3.70 gearing)
 
0-60 in roughly 4.7 seconds - 1/4 mile in roughly 13.0 flat @ 108mph.... (these arent certified numbers, but if they are even close, faster then any of the SRT-8's in stock form)

4 wheel disc brakes w/ ABS, Traction Control, Stability Control

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/17/2008 8:52:07 AM   
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13 flat in 1/4 mile seems to be a little slow for a car that can do 0-60 in 4.7 seconds.  our SRT's pull 12's in the 1/4 mile.

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/17/2008 9:03:55 AM   
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13 flat in 1/4 mile seems to be a little slow for a car that can do 0-60 in 4.7 seconds.  our SRT's pull 12's in the 1/4 mile.


Actually, the fastest stock times for the SRT-8's I can find listed is still above 13 seconds and only 5.0 seconds in the 0-60.

There are always going to be people who can manage to get their cars in stock form to go faster then these times. I'm aware of that. However, the fact remains that most people will look at these and play magazine race wars. It's all about who can show their faster.

I mean, I've seen numbers for a stock Z06 Corvette run a high 10 quarter mile....but yet the stock numbers from Chevy are in the 11's.....

I know of a few guys over at a few of the LX forums that have gotten into the mid to low 12's in their SRT-8's stock....but we're talking fresh of the assembly line and down to the local track with no chance to do anything with the car.... most people will not duplicate those numbers.

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/17/2008 9:21:26 AM   
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1.  Interested in price

2.  Wonder why they just did not use the same exact engine from the Vette then detune it via the computer to keep the Vette their "king".  Would have saved some $$??

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/17/2008 9:26:20 AM   
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1.  Interested in price

2.  Wonder why they just did not use the same exact engine from the Vette then detune it via the computer to keep the Vette their "king".  Would have saved some $$??


1.) The GT is going for about $28-31k fully loaded, so I'd expect this one around $34-36k tops.....although I'm thinking that it may be lower...

2.) This is the same LS3 V8 that is powering the Corvette...



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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/17/2008 2:13:48 PM   
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Interesting vehicle, I think it has potential to do well versus the G35 and 3-series

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/17/2008 2:42:23 PM   
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youve not spent enough time in a bmw if you think that GM has made anything that could ever dream of competing with anything from bmw.  my 92 bmw is nicer than the NEW gm sedans...and faster than most of them too.

you gm fella gonna hope that the difference in weight and the manual gearbox will make up for the gross difference in power? ill have to see this new bonneville run in the 13.0 range with that power before i believe it..and lets keep in mind that QUITE a few people have put srt8 sedans into the 12s in near stock form..things like tires, and CAIs...i believe that stripper motorsports got their charger into the 12.70s...not everyone hs done it, but it only takes practice to do it..

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/17/2008 5:58:09 PM   
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you gm fella gonna hope that the difference in weight and the manual gearbox will make up for the gross difference in power? ill have to see this new bonneville run in the 13.0 range with that power before i believe it..and lets keep in mind that QUITE a few people have put srt8 sedans into the 12s in near stock form..things like tires, and CAIs...i believe that stripper motorsports got their charger into the 12.70s...not everyone hs done it, but it only takes practice to do it..


The difference in weight of the two coupled with the hp/torque ratings of the G8 are enough to balance the two cars out, if nothing else.

Consider...

G8 GT - 361hp/385ftlbs torque
R/T 300C - 345hp/390ftlbs torque

G8 GT - 402hp/402ftlbs torque
SRT-8 - 425hp/420ftlbs torque

I think the difference in weight between the two is something like 2-300lbs tops....but the LSD helps plus the manual tranny helps....not to mention the gearing on the G8......

Please note, I've never said this was an SRT-8 killer, merely it's first real competition....



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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/17/2008 8:55:08 PM   
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i think that the manual trans could be the saving grace for this car, but i hate that pontiac is making everything look the same.  the charger and magnum are fairly close, but at least there are some variations in design cues.  the G cars all look like the same car, stretched to fit the various platforms...  i didnt like the G6 (the new grand am) at all, and its not getting any better, in my opinion.

why dont they just market the holdens here, as pontiac seems to have become "holden of the US"...at least the holden would be somewhat exotic.  id much rather have a holden monaro than a gto, even though they are essentially the same car....i just find the holden to be more interesting, and i really like the look of the vauxhall monaro vxr. is the vxr8 the G8, overseas? if so, why not just offer that car here....

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/17/2008 9:15:43 PM   
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Always tryin to make Dodge look bad.

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/18/2008 4:26:56 AM   
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why dont they just market the holdens here, as pontiac seems to have become "holden of the US"...at least the holden would be somewhat exotic.  id much rather have a holden monaro than a gto, even though they are essentially the same car....i just find the holden to be more interesting, and i really like the look of the vauxhall monaro vxr. is the vxr8 the G8, overseas? if so, why not just offer that car here....


Couldnt agree more...

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/18/2008 4:28:02 AM   
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Always tryin to make Dodge look bad.


Where in any of this post, did I try to diss or down Dodge? Nowhere......and perhaps if more people complained like we do about certain aspects, they might listen...

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 3/18/2008 6:24:21 AM   
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me?

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 4/14/2008 1:50:36 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB-svF9ncZg&eurl=http://www.highperformancestangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5513

I know the person who took this video...its a V6 mustang against a G8GT...the mustang is obviously modified, and G8 is stock, and is incredibly disappointing. 

some SRT killer.

its going to need every one of those extra hp to come close to the srts...

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RE: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - LS3 w/ 6spd Manual - 4/14/2008 3:12:48 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB-svF9ncZg&eurl=http://www.highperformancestangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5513

I know the person who took this video...its a V6 mustang against a G8GT...the mustang is obviously modified, and G8 is stock, and is incredibly disappointing. 

some SRT killer.

its going to need every one of those extra hp to come close to the srts...


How is a 13.8 for the G8 GT "incredibly disappointing"...unless I'm mistaken, the comparably powerful LX vehicles with the 5.7 HEMI's ran mid-low 14's at best. And I don't see how posting a video of a turbo Mustang beating a G8 GT having anything to do with how well a G8 GXP will compete against an LX SRT-8 vehicle.

^^With all that said I'm neither a GM fanboy, or a Dodge hater...just playing the devils retarded cousins advocate .


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