RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers!
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 12/15/2004 1:48:36 AM
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SHAPman
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I agree with you todd, that thing makes a bingo hall look exciting!
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 12/15/2004 9:25:51 AM
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GMsucks
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Well I'll be.......
That looks like a bunch of Grand Prix honeycomb with a GTO badge.
Hmmmmm, I never noticed that before, thanks for the close up! It provided some real insight into where Holden is getting it's styling cues, er, uhhh, I mean Pontiac.
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 12/15/2004 9:29:29 AM
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BadStratRT
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for what they cost...you could buy 2 SRT4s....
its a rwd v8 grand prix...why dont people see that? its not different than putting a body kit a civic and calling it a "type-r integra"
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 12/15/2004 9:43:13 PM
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Glad to see the badge back after all these years, but it's just gonna be lunch for SRT-4s and 2005 Mustang GTs.....
Step away from the crack pipe...
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 12/15/2004 9:45:16 PM
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Racer Rob
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for what they cost...you could buy 2 SRT4s....
its a rwd v8 grand prix...why dont people see that? its not different than putting a body kit a civic and calling it a "type-r integra"
That gets the "dumb quote of the week" award. Ever driven or rode in one? Or even looked at one up close? Its far from a grand prix. 
And yep, its more then a 4 banger sport compact, big suprise. You get what you pay for though, twice the car that a Neon is.
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 12/17/2004 3:31:54 PM
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That gets the "dumb quote of the week" award. Ever driven or rode in one? Or even looked at one up close? Its far from a grand prix.
You've earned yourself the "Dumb A** Newb Of The Year Award" Congrats. A relative of mine owned a Grand Prix. They look quite similar in alot of ways.
Not trying to be offensive. Just laying the hand down when it's needed.
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 1/7/2005 12:02:34 PM
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Kingelvis
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Inconvenient bench racing fact:
SRT8 = 4100lb/425hp = 9.64lb/hp
GTO = 3800lbs/400hp = 9.5lbs/hp
On the other hand, in the race that matters (sales race) the Dodges seem to be winning hands down.
There are fewer shenanigans in HP rating in the post 'net' horsepower rating world than in the 60s. For the first half of the decade they overrated everything, then they underrated everything toward the end. For example, Olds simply knocked off 20hp off the Toronado 455 when they put it in the 442, just so it would officially be above 9.99lbs/hp (a hard and fast GM rule was to stay above that line for PR purposes). Ford's 428 was immediatly refactored to 360hp from the 335hp official rating in B stock when the Mustang was cleaning everybody's clock at the '68 Winternationals.
Mazda and Hyundai actually got sued (?) I think recently for overrating. I don't think there' s much advantage to either or overrating or underrating anymore.
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 1/7/2005 12:05:03 PM
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BadStratRT
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hmm..so their high end sports car is faster than dodges high end luxury car...oh no...
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 1/7/2005 12:20:10 PM
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Kingelvis
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Chrysler should pray for more fans like you badstrat. I'm amazed at how rabid the fans are of old Miradas or Magnums - they weren't exactly the 'must have' cars of their day. On the other hand, just puting in a lower pinion transforms them - they were mostly all 2.45:1 and the 'trailer assist' 3.21:1 seems to be rare.
I'm okay with Bob's admiration for the GTO though.
I saw in Hemmings muscle machines that vintage GM and Chryslers are commanding super high prices, while old Mustangs and Torinos have been all but forgotten in the old musclecar market - perhaps more evidence of GM/DCX affinity?
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 1/7/2005 12:22:48 PM
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at the mopar nationals last year, a 1970 hemicuda, hemi orange, white leather interior, 4 speed car, white drop top, all original, numbers matching, with like 10k miles went for soemwhere in the area of 600k....!
ive had my mirada for about 11 years now...the old girl is in need of a paint job...just it doesnt sit still long enough for anyone to get a good look..heck...unless people are wandering the pits, they only see her for about 12 seconds at a time, plus my burnout..
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RE: 2005 Pontiac GTO Arrives In Dealers! - 1/7/2005 12:36:58 PM
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MCG recently did an article on the 2 million dollar '71 Hemi Cuda ragtop (yes, that's 2 mill). Just peruse e-Bay listings to see what these things are going for. When I think of the ones I should have bought 25 years ago, or the ones that I used to have... ARGHHHH!
The GTO just doesn't cut it styling-wise. I'm with a lot of the folks here that say it's just too generic to everything else in the Pontiac stable. Does any one know if it's available with a manual tranny? I've heard it's supposed to be restyled for the 2007 MY. It may very well be my choice for something new then if they can give it a decent restyle.
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