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Black Paint Care - 2/7/2008 11:22:30 PM
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geoffb123
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Just a few questions. I read the "Black Paint Care 101 Guide" and im going to try out the Klasse AIO and the glaze. Also I need to get the orbital. Just a few quick questions, I thought maybe I might be reading it all wrong, or getting words mixed up.
You apply the Klasse AIO and Glaze with a Microfiber Bonnet on an orbital. And when it has dried, you buff it off with a microfiber towel or use a new microfiber bonnet on the orbital? This is where I got mixed up. Also with the wax, do you use another orbital pad and apply the wax that way, then buff it all off with the orbital?
So basically what im trying to ask is
Apply with orbital bonnets then buff it off with microfiber clothes?
Just want to get this right, I want the best shine possible.
Thanks
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RE: Black Paint Care - 2/8/2008 8:58:35 AM
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Nicegy525
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I work for a professional Detail shop (among other things) I have yet to see anything shine better than good old fashioned Turtle Wax and lots of elbow grease!
None of the high end Turtle Wax, just plain old turtle wax apply a light THIN coat and really rub it into the paint dont just slather it on. let dry and buff out with microfiber towels (doesnt leave any lint behind) Keep a keen eye out for spots that got missed or didnt get buffed out enough. Apply a second coat the same way.
I did a comparison and polished one panel with a high speed polisher and our clear coat glaze, another panel with a 3M glaze and an orbital buffer and a third panel with turtle wax
I ran a clean towel across each panel and the high speed buffer panel had the most friction, the orbital panel had the second most, but the Turtle Wax slid right across with almost NO friction.
If you set a towel on the hood of a car and it slides right off, you know its a good wax job.
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RE: Black Paint Care - 2/11/2008 5:34:46 PM
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Nicegy525
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not sure about the klasse products but in general glazes go on with a foam bonnet and gets polished with a high speed buffer, start slow at first to spread the glaze around and as it works into the paint increase the speed. high speed polishers are extremely difficult to use on dark colors like Black. They have a tendency to leave swirl marks. Which is why I always hand wax.
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RE: Black Paint Care - 2/12/2008 4:58:12 PM
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Nicegy525
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you can have a paint shop wet sand and polish the entire car to smooth out any orange peel and get rid of 90% of the light scratches. Black paint is a b!tch to maintain! which is why its so sexy!
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RE: Black Paint Care - 2/15/2008 10:34:39 PM
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scandal669
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i have done alot of this kind of thing and using an orbital takes some practice and talent for it to come out looking like glass. you need to use a seperate bonnet for the apply and the removal. the way i wax is i hand apply, then use a buffer to take most of it off, then use a microfiber towel or a terry towel to touch up and take off what the buffer didnt get. the buffer is basicly rubbing it in again and removing at the same time for me this way. i am not familiar with Klasse products, i have always used maguires or mothers products, but any name brand is as good as the next as long as it is carnuba, that is a must as far as im concerned, so i dont think its necessary to pay for a fancy wax when a cheaper one will do as well. a paste wax is harder work but lasts over a year if you keep your truck garaged or in a carport. my truck is in a carport and rain still beads up after a year. i also use a good spray on wax after washing maybe once a month to keep swirls out of it from washings and always use car washing soap, never dish soap. i have owned black cars and they are a pain to keep looking good i know, spray waxes help tho.
another thing you can use is auto clay, its a fairly new thing to do and its a bit easier than waxing and it basicly rubs out and waxes all in one, alot of people swear by it
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RE: Black Paint Care - 2/15/2008 11:05:37 PM
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scandal669
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the truck you saw, he might have used clay. i have never used it but i have read alot about it and from what i know it is almost like a wet sand. it comes in a brick and you rub it across the paint firmly and it takes off anything microscopic that is above the actual paint. paint is like skin, it has pores that get clogged and filled with oxydation and dirt you cant even see and thats what takes the shine away and makes it feel rough. try using a polishing compound, not a rubbing compound, (polishing compound is less abrasive than rubbing compound), before you wax. it will actually take off a microscopic layer without ruining the clearcoat and get rid of all the oxydation and invisible dirt. i used polishing compound (turtle wax paste) and carnuba wax (mothers paste) a day after i bought my truck and it looked like a new paint job...but i wouldnt use a compound very often, maybe avery 2 or 3 years or when waxing alone doesnt seem to bring out the color or shine
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99 Dodge Dakota Sport 4x4 Extended cab
PB3 - Intense Blue, Pearl Coat
5.2L 318, 5 speed manual
31x10.5x15
LeBra soft tonneau (get one, it saves gas!)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/scandal669/010.jpg
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