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There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/23/2008 8:37:36 AM   
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http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/news/chrysler/press/roundtable.html

Are we talking inporting the Mexican H100 by chance??

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/23/2008 9:25:24 AM   
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I would think with the bad sales of the Dakota the next gen will be smaller to fill this niche, and rumors that they are talking to Nissan would seem to support this.  A collaborative effort resulting in a smaller fuel efficient pickup might be a big boost, especially considering the Tacoma is now midsized, and the Ranger is going that way in its next gen, basically the "compact" pickup market would be all Dodges, the same way teh Midsized market was when the Dakota frist came out.  this would also give them a pickup that could be sold well in other countires, unlike the Dakota.

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/23/2008 11:07:34 AM   
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It's about damn time. Today's trucks have gotten way too damn big. The Dakota and Tacoma and such are huge. The Colorado/Canyon is still fairly small. That's the absolute largest a 'small' truck should be IMO... 

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/23/2008 11:13:13 AM   
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They are sitting around scratching their asses wondering why they cant sell a dakota, and yet they dont realize its because of 2 major reasons:

1. THEY DON'T MARKET THEM!
2. There is absolutely no after market support

And thats just great, telling us Americans what we want by observing Thailand wants


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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/23/2008 4:51:44 PM   
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JR, I think (and I own a Dakota!) that part of the reason they can't sell them is they are so big, you can buy a ram for only a few bucks more and get more rom and payload, and about the same gas milage.  I would love to see them return to the size of the second gen, offer a small diesel (or even the 2.5 world engine) for people that want gas milage....

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/24/2008 10:13:51 AM   
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I like the Dakota the way it is. What made it so different from the others was that it was the only mid-sized truck that offered a v-8. That way you have the power without having to have a huge truck to do the work.

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/24/2008 3:44:15 PM   
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Can you say BRAT! Anyone remember those? GM could do the same thing by bringing back the El Camino just in a smaller package.

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/24/2008 6:31:41 PM   
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How about the Rampage??  I would love to see an updated version of that!

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/24/2008 8:42:31 PM   
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This is new BRAT....The Baja which isnt made any longer. My Bro-in-law has one and likes it, and I think they are ok, but Dash and steering are too low. They are too small.


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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/25/2008 12:07:28 AM   
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The M80 Concept would be sweet if Dodge greenlighted it.....

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/25/2008 2:49:05 PM   
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the m80 is pretty cool....kinda like an old powerwagon...

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/27/2008 11:27:10 AM   
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The M80 is sweet, but I want to see that Wrangler pickup with a turbodiesel. Decent mpg but you give up absolutely NOTHING to get it. Thats the only way to go.

I do dig the look of that little toyota, but Ill bet its based on rav4 or highlander fwd garbage tho.

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/27/2008 4:52:07 PM   
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I live here on the border with Mexico and Ford and Chevy have these really cool small "trucks". Chevy has the Montana and Ford has the Courier. I see them all over the place here. I'm thinking if Chryco and Toy!@# are looking into small trucks as a future market, I would hazard to guess others are as well. Ford and Chevy have these two things that would take next to nothing to import (half of "American" cars are assembled in Mexico anyway). I think the M80 would be more like a real truck than these two, since these are based off the Ford Fiesta (Mexico) and the Chevy Corsa. The Ford is @ http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/homevehicle.asp?idModel=COU The Chevy is @ http://www.chevrolet.com.br/montana/index.shtm. I'm almost positive that this is the size that the Chryco Vice Chairman is referring to.
One final thought, the Dakota is tanking because they are over-priced. Yes, they can do more than most pickups in the midsize category, but when the Tucson Dodge dealer is advertizing 2008
1500 4 door with the base 8 cylinder and fairly nicely equipped (if you like manual shiftng like me) for $1000 less than the EXACTLY same equipped Dakota, you know Dodge has really screwed up the formula.

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/27/2008 9:06:39 PM   
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Id rather walk if I had to drive anything like the Montana or Courier. Those are a sorry excuse for a truck. They remind me of a Festiva/Aspire or Metro that happens to have a truck bed attached. If those are what we are looking forward too; than Im happy with my 15-21mpg in my Dakota.

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RE: There's An Emerging Market for Very Small Trucks - 1/28/2008 4:37:12 AM   
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One final thought, the Dakota is tanking because they are over-priced. Yes, they can do more than most pickups in the midsize category, but when the Tucson Dodge dealer is advertizing 2008
1500 4 door with the base 8 cylinder and fairly nicely equipped (if you like manual shiftng like me) for $1000 less than the EXACTLY same equipped Dakota, you know Dodge has really screwed up the formula.


I do love my Dakota, but you nailed that dead on.  I have said before I think they should produce the wrangler pickup / JT / Gladiator.... offer a 4 and 6 cylinder plus the diesel, and then offer a dodge version.  It wouldn't cost them much since the chassis is already there in the Wrangler unlimited.  Jeep didn't produce it the first time because they thought it would compete too much with Dakota, but if it had its own Dakota version that wouldn't be a problem...





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