Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4
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Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4 - 1/30/2004 2:27:37 AM
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71RoadRunner
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[QUOTE=vHiEpMeIr] I was in an argument with the owner of a 2004 Ford/SVT F-150 Lightning. He was saying how the HEMI engine is horrible. He laughed and said that the new HEMI's 345HP couldn't compare to the Lightning's 380HP. Here was my argument: The HEMI's 5.7L is NA, the Lightnings 5.4L is SC. The 5.4L without the Supercharger is 260HP. The HEMI with a Supercharger is 517HP. Besides, the point of HEMI's re-introduction in the Ram was for Heavy Duty purposes. What do you guys think? [/QUOTE]
Nothing to say, you said it all. The Hemi is the better engine.  71ROADRUNNER38016.1027314815
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Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4 - 1/30/2004 7:36:38 AM
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Randy_W
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I have to disagree that the Chevy's look just as good as the rams, they look freakin' plain to me, yeah the Fords are boxy and ugly I think, but the Ram just looks so good. and I want Truck Trend to do a shootout with 2wd short bed reg cab with the new F150, Hemi Ram, and the Chev. Can you say Landslide??
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Don't bet the farm! The 2wd Silverado sb with 5.3,3.73 gears and 5 speed ran 0-60 in 7.3 and 14.78 in the qtr.! I love my Ram but most of the Chevies are quicker!
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Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4 - 1/30/2004 9:30:40 AM
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uhoh
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I am not sure I am going to add much to this discussion but I will try. I have a 2000 Ford F-150 4x4 super cab with the 5.4 and a 2003 1500 hemi 4x4 quad cab. Before I bought the Dodge I drove the GMC's and Fords. Additionally, my company purchases quite a large number of trucks each year for the fleet, I am part of that. I am talking work truck and light duty, not performance trucks.
Racing a 2wd truck with regular cab compared to a 4x4 four door is not a good comparison. Not sure why that statement even needs to be made! Crap a chevy s-10 4.3 will smoke most large trucks simply based on hp to weight. Now load em up with equal weights and see what happens. The 5.4 is not a race engine guys it is a truck engine. It produes power down low and does not rev to the moon, like a hemi.
My hemi does have more power than my 5.4 in the upper r's but not enough to make me go around crowing like a rooster though. The hemi gets horrible mileage and performs poorly under low rpm with or without a load. I prefer my 5.4 in many situations and the hemi in others. Overall I like the valve of the Dodge but don't be sure that the 5.4 is a POS just because it "might" not win a drag race. My 2000 5.4 gives the hemi fits until 60, the hemi edges the ford out by a door length.
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Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4 - 2/1/2004 11:58:37 PM
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SmokinSVT
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Sorry to break you guys hearts here, but the comparison between the Lightning and the Hemi Ram is not even a fair one. Just to quickly mention that the 500-hp Viper "Truck" isn't hanging with the Lightnings is enough said. The Hemi is a good motor, but pair both trucks up straight from the factory and the Lightning will smoke the Hemi every time. The Lightning was built with the sole purpose of hauling ass. the Hemi-Ram more for power and towing not for sport truck. Just food for thought. The only competition for the Lightning right now is the SRT-10, and it will be good.
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Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4 - 2/2/2004 12:16:39 AM
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Vader
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[QUOTE=SmokinSVT]Sorry to break you guys hearts here, but the comparison between the Lightning and the Hemi Ram is not even a fair one. Just to quickly mention that the 500-hp Viper "Truck" isn't hanging with the Lightnings is enough said. The Hemi is a good motor, but pair both trucks up straight from the factory and the Lightning will smoke the Hemi every time. The Lightning was built with the sole purpose of hauling ass. the Hemi-Ram more for power and towing not for sport truck. Just food for thought. The only competition for the Lightning right now is the SRT-10, and it will be good. [/QUOTE]
Have to agree with you. The fact that you are stating facts and not coming here and putting other vehicles down is great. Do me a favor, as soon as you see a Titan, smoke his a$$. Lightning is built for Speed and the Hemi is multi functional. I have seen many Lightnings at the track, they are impressive. This coming season should be interesting, many mods are becoming available for the Hemi.
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Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4 - 2/2/2004 1:17:18 AM
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vHiEpMeIr
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SVT, are you serious? The SRT Ram beat the Lightning BY 4 thenths to 60, 7 tenths in the 1/4 Mile, and 7 MPH in the 1/4 Mile. They stuck 650lbs of weight in the bed of the SRT, and though it lost by two tenths to 60, it came back and beat the Lightning by 1 MPH and 2 tenths in the 1/4 Mile. By the way, it already outweighs the Lightning by 480lbs. Also, drag racing is only one kind of race, in a track race, the SRT would murder it, "This truck [Ram SRT-10] turns, corners, and handles more like a sports car than a truck." - TT
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Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4 - 2/2/2004 9:59:55 AM
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gbrown94
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Blah Blah Blah, Who has driven a chev, a ford, and a
dodge with the best performance engines??? I
respect the 5.3 Chev Engine, f-150's are ok too, but
having driven all 3, and not just because I'm a Mopar
guy, the hemi is more impressive. You can throw
out all the 0-60, quarter mile stats, or whatever, if
you're giving stats, give them for all 3. My trusty ol'
Butt-Dyno tells me the Hemi pulls harder and all
around is the best runner. I have not driven an 04 F-
150 yet but I hopefully will so I can't be 100% sure.
but a 99 5.4 don't match up to the other 2. Yes I
know functionality is a big thing too, but I don't have a
4wd and I don't tow much, so I am gonna be more
performance speed oriented. I'm into trucks
because cars are not as fun, this is the only way to
get a v-8 Rear Drive that is fun and affordable. So
lets quit bickering and roll on with our trucks, ok? By
the way my friends 4.3L Extreme kicks the crap out of
me  but I just can't cram myself into mini's
anymore, lol.
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RE: Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4 - 12/3/2005 7:39:01 PM
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rangerGT83
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well all i have to say is let dodge be dodge if they want to put a CAR motor in a truck so be it if thass what it takes to out perform ford then lettem have at it.....but its plain to see that dodge had to do that ONLY to beat the lightning....i mean come on nothing else dodge made that was a truck could out do the lightning..i read all your lil posts about how the dodge is better on the track or how it handles better and blah blah......have any of you people in here been on the track and drove a lightning and a dodge and saw how it was? all you say is yea man my dodge can whoop it yea yea yea....maybe on a street race maybe? and yea there are more mods you can add to the lightning to get it higher...yall wanna see?
2004 Lightning Performance
Power: 405whp
Torque: 515ft-lbs
1/4 mile: 13.66 @ 101.14mph
Motor: 5.4L, Triton 2 valve Supersharged
Turbo: None,
IC: Other, Eaton 112 SC W/Stock IC
Trans: Auto, Shift kit and valve body
Tire: Street, Stock F1 Goodyear Tires
Exhaust: Other, Borla Stingray Cat-back
Intake: Custom, C & L Cold Air with Accufab Singel Blade Oval TB.
Cam: Stock,
Nitrous: Nitrous Express,
Body: Black Flare-Side SVT
if yall want the link juss im me on aol...... xluckythurteenx peace out and hava good day
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RE: Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4 - 12/3/2005 8:26:29 PM
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94rt10ohio
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quote:
ORIGINAL: rangerGT83
well all i have to say is let dodge be dodge if they want to put a CAR motor in a truck so be it if thass what it takes to out perform ford then lettem have at it.....but its plain to see that dodge had to do that ONLY to beat the lightning....i mean come on nothing else dodge made that was a truck could out do the lightning..i read all your lil posts about how the dodge is better on the track or how it handles better and blah blah......have any of you people in here been on the track and drove a lightning and a dodge and saw how it was? all you say is yea man my dodge can whoop it yea yea yea....maybe on a street race maybe? and yea there are more mods you can add to the lightning to get it higher...yall wanna see?
2004 Lightning Performance
Power: 405whp
Torque: 515ft-lbs
1/4 mile: 13.66 @ 101.14mph
Motor: 5.4L, Triton 2 valve Supersharged
Turbo: None,
IC: Other, Eaton 112 SC W/Stock IC
Trans: Auto, Shift kit and valve body
Tire: Street, Stock F1 Goodyear Tires
Exhaust: Other, Borla Stingray Cat-back
Intake: Custom, C & L Cold Air with Accufab Singel Blade Oval TB.
Cam: Stock,
Nitrous: Nitrous Express,
Body: Black Flare-Side SVT
if yall want the link juss im me on aol...... xluckythurteenx peace out and hava good day
Are you a Dodge closet fan? You had to be reading the forum for hours to get back to this post!! Talk about bring it back from the dead.
First of all the Hemi is not a car motor.... As a matter of fact the Hemi in the truck is rated at more HP than the Hemi they put into the cars. Any car guy knows that engine blocks and internals are the same along all base engine platforms. Then different heads, intakes, injection, ect caters to the application.
2nd, it is not Dodge's performace truck, that is the SRT-10. Would you like to compare performance truck to performance truck?
Fords performance truck is the lightning, the fact that the Hemi (non-performance truck) is comparable to the lightning is rather embarrasing for Ford.
< Message edited by 94rt10ohio -- 12/3/2005 8:27:46 PM >
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RE: Dodge 5.7 vs. Ford 5.4 - 12/4/2005 4:01:18 PM
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rangerGT83
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i didnt know that this was done but to reply to the guy that said that the hemi wasnt a car motor um YES IT IS charger was the furst one that had it you need to dig back bruh seriously if you think hemi aint a car motor go look at chargers and dont try to come at me about old shit like that cuz you wont win........old hot rods and most of the newer are my fav.....so yea go look then COME at me like that ok? ok! and no dodge has no comparison to ford....and no im not a dodge fan as you CAN CLEARLY SEE FROM THE ****IN NAME RANGER!! YOU DUMBASS IS A FORD NOT DODGE I HAVE A RANGER so have a good day
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