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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 3/7/2008 8:18:27 PM   
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does anyone know why they are making it a v6 and not an I6?...



there will be both a V6 and  V8, the reason for making it a Vee design is for a smaller footprint. not only that, the 5.6L V8 block is shorter than my 5.9L I6. also inline engines are good at making torque, Vee engines are good for produceing horse power.


I see.... it makes sense seeing that those interested in a light duty cummins would proabably not be as concered with torque as someone who was buying a 5.9 or a 6.7 cummins in a 2500/3500 ram.

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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 3/17/2008 2:30:51 PM   
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I6's also are not very crash safe.... its unfortunate because its been proven time and time again that the I6 is one of the smoothest running engines and produces a very nice torque curve. Look at the history Jeep has made with the 4.0L... its a shame crash test pansies had to kill it off.

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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 4/16/2008 7:07:02 PM   
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I am wondering if they are going to price it competitavely or over price it due to the newness. Let me explain.
I have been looking at getting a Ram for 2 years now. I finally pulled the trigger 3 weeks ago. I had been tracking several dealers prices and inventories for a long long time. When I bought my truck, the dealer had 8 new 1500 QC Hemis ranging from 22k-27k after rebates depending on 2WD or 4WD. They had 6 new 2500 QC Diesels running from low to mid 30's after rebates. I have always had my heart set on a CTD but due to the neg equity on my trade in (had to get rid of it, lots of problems), it pushed me out of CTD range so I grabbed a Hemi for 12k off sticker brand new. For several years now you have been able to get a 2500 QC CTD  4x4 brand new for low to mid 30's if you are willing to look around. With most QC 1500 Hemis stickering for mid to high 30's and beyond, I think we will see a snowblower in hell before they sell the Diesel 1500 for less than the Hemi. So if I decide to pull the trigger on a CTD in 2-3 years, am I going to grab a 1500 CTD in the high 30's with no rebate due to the newness/popularity or a 2500 CTD with more power/towing/resale for the low 30's with rebates?

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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 5/14/2008 6:02:00 AM   
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I've always wondered why no one has put a diesel into a 1/2 ton truck so far. It was explained to me the biggest thing for them to over come and why its taken so long is that making the diesels meet the exhaust regulations for cleaner emissions has been the problem. 1/2 ton trucks or "light duty" trucks are in a whole different catagory than the bigger trucks and emissions requirements are much more strict.

I can see the benifits especially for commercial use. I work in the construction business and we have super intendents who drive 75-100k miles per year in the trucks. They have some tools and occasionally a light payload, but no towing to do. The sheer amount of miles that diesel can take compared to a gas engine makes huge sense to us. Plus the mileage if those numbers are correct from Bighorned's link, that would be a big benifit over gas engines also. Do the math, gas at $3.00 per gallon and averaging 15 miles per gallon (30 gallon tank was used for my calculations) comes to about $0.20 per mile. Diesel at $3.50 per gallon but averaging 20 miles per gallon (again with a 30 gallon tank) comes to $0.18 per mile. So if those numbers are correct and they get 25 miles to the gallon, I think it would stupid for a company like us not to buy the 1/2 tons with a diesel. Yes, does it cost more to maintain a diesel engine, absolutely, but looking at it long term, I can see that its worth it. I called to check on a diesel oil change at the local quick change station, and its only $10 more than the gas engine oil change. Considering most diesels get their oil change around 10k-15k miles, its still less than our gas engines which are being changed every 5k miles.

I do worry about the same thing on the towing. Many people don't read or care what the manufacturer's maximum payload and towing weights are. They are going to see "diesel" in their truck and think they can tow a 4-5 horse trailer fully loaded with their 1/2 ton truck and then wonder why at only 30k miles they need to buy a new transmission and why the dealership's service department won't do it under warranty. Then they will go and post all over the internet and complain to their friends that Dodge has made a lousy product, when in reality, they abused their own property and expected Dodge to cover the cost. Its a nightmare for PR waiting to happen, but I hope the sales are worth it. I'm planning on getting one when they come out.


Chevy did put a Diesel (OF SORTS) in there early 80s , it was a complete failer, gas converson to diesel, I feel the CTD is such a good motor is it was designed for a diesel truck, as the Ford & Chevy's were made for gas trucks

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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 5/15/2008 1:13:08 PM   
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Yes, it has been confirmed that they will be putting the 5.6L V8 CTD in the 1500's ,while the 4.6 V6 CTD will be going into the Dakotas and Durangos.


it's actually gonna be a 5.0L CTD V8 goin in the ram...we got a couple of em here at work

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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 5/15/2008 2:19:27 PM   
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Beings we are doing Cummins here on the Ram site-Did you guys know that the 5.9 -I6 Cummins was based on a Case tractor engine?-Kevin

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