RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year?
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/18/2008 5:37:53 AM
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sandmanmi
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has anyone heard what the pricing is going to be?
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/19/2008 11:34:55 PM
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Ramman18
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just to give you guys a heads up. . .chevy has a duramax to go into the 1500's as well that is pumping out 310hp and 550tq. this should also be for the 09 model year. . .5.4L if I remember correctly.
Just a thought. . . isn't that a little too much power to be in a 1/2 ton pickup? I mean people will see those numbers and be pulling 50ft yachts wondering why they keep blowing out rearends and trannys. Those power numbers are rediculous.
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/21/2008 12:49:21 PM
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Drew
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too much power. . .nope. if they blow out the axel from towing too heavy it is the owners fault.
most of the people I work with think the power I have is too much
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/22/2008 7:16:07 PM
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thehemiman12345
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what do you think the v8 cummins will get for mileage in the 1500?....20-25ish maybe......or do u think more then that?
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/24/2008 4:55:32 PM
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Drew
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I'm pretty sure I'm wrong on this, however I think the test mule was getting mid 20's.
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/24/2008 7:50:19 PM
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DodgeFan01
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Thats gonna be a sweet frickin truck, I would love a Cummin's in a 1500!
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/25/2008 6:37:32 PM
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Drew
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I know people that can make that happen right now
how does around 400hp in a RCSB sound
< Message edited by Drew -- 1/25/2008 6:41:51 PM >
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/25/2008 8:27:55 PM
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schmedly
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A major consideration for a diesel in a 1500 series will be the huge loss of payload capacity. Diesels are substantially heavier than gassers. There are a lot of 2500 series diesels out there with a lower payload rating than a 1500 gasser due to the engines' weight. So that wonderful fuel economy will come at a price of up front dollars, more expensive maintainence, and a large reduction in payload. They will tow a whole lot better. So, what do you use your truck for? Towing or payload or daily transport?
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/26/2008 7:01:10 PM
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Drew
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actualy weight has been taking into consideration, and due to the increased power of the engine it will either keep the same payload, or increase it.
the weight of the the engines for the 1500's are a little heavier, however not enough to effectpayload.
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/31/2008 12:26:11 AM
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US taxpayers for the design
and Indiana taxpayers for the new plant
have put a lot of money into the
Light Duty Cummins V6 and V8 projects:
http://www.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/pdfs/deer_2004/session9/2004_deer_stang2.pdf
Didn't know Light Duty and Cummins were allowed to be used in the same sentence.
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RE: A Diesel in the Ram 1500's next year? - 1/31/2008 6:42:14 AM
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Nate7159
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I've always wondered why no one has put a diesel into a 1/2 ton truck so far. It was explained to me the biggest thing for them to over come and why its taken so long is that making the diesels meet the exhaust regulations for cleaner emissions has been the problem. 1/2 ton trucks or "light duty" trucks are in a whole different catagory than the bigger trucks and emissions requirements are much more strict.
I can see the benifits especially for commercial use. I work in the construction business and we have super intendents who drive 75-100k miles per year in the trucks. They have some tools and occasionally a light payload, but no towing to do. The sheer amount of miles that diesel can take compared to a gas engine makes huge sense to us. Plus the mileage if those numbers are correct from Bighorned's link, that would be a big benifit over gas engines also. Do the math, gas at $3.00 per gallon and averaging 15 miles per gallon (30 gallon tank was used for my calculations) comes to about $0.20 per mile. Diesel at $3.50 per gallon but averaging 20 miles per gallon (again with a 30 gallon tank) comes to $0.18 per mile. So if those numbers are correct and they get 25 miles to the gallon, I think it would stupid for a company like us not to buy the 1/2 tons with a diesel. Yes, does it cost more to maintain a diesel engine, absolutely, but looking at it long term, I can see that its worth it. I called to check on a diesel oil change at the local quick change station, and its only $10 more than the gas engine oil change. Considering most diesels get their oil change around 10k-15k miles, its still less than our gas engines which are being changed every 5k miles.
I do worry about the same thing on the towing. Many people don't read or care what the manufacturer's maximum payload and towing weights are. They are going to see "diesel" in their truck and think they can tow a 4-5 horse trailer fully loaded with their 1/2 ton truck and then wonder why at only 30k miles they need to buy a new transmission and why the dealership's service department won't do it under warranty. Then they will go and post all over the internet and complain to their friends that Dodge has made a lousy product, when in reality, they abused their own property and expected Dodge to cover the cost. Its a nightmare for PR waiting to happen, but I hope the sales are worth it. I'm planning on getting one when they come out.
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