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Question about Biodiesel


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Ive used it in my Cummins
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Ive used it in something other than my Cummins
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Question about Biodiesel - 1/15/2008 7:19:05 AM   
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So, per a discussion in off topic, I was curious as to how many of our members have experience with biodiesel.  We have such a huge diesel crowd, im curious as to how many people have dealt with it.

I will admit that I dont know much about it, although Ive seen it produced on television.  Is there any noticable difference in performance when running biodiesel?

Thanks for the opinions!

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/15/2008 8:12:21 AM   
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If I recall reading another post in the Cummins section Dodge can void your warranty if they determine you are using BioDiesel.

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/15/2008 8:31:54 AM   
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did they give the grounds for cancellation?  i would think that in the refining system that i saw, there would be some bi-product of the cooking process that may end up passing through the fuel system.

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/15/2008 12:25:57 PM   
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Cummins has certified the engine to run on B5. . .I know guy's on other forums that run B99-b100 all the time.

the main reason why the B5 certification is that Bio fuels dont undergo the same evaluations and restrictions that normal fuels are. so the cetane, lubricative properties, and BTU factors can swing wildly.

have I run it. . .no I havent, but I would if it were more prevelant in my area.


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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/15/2008 7:32:52 PM   
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I've used bio in mixes from 10% to b99 with no problems.  It runs a bit quieter, has a little less power and gets 1+ mpg worse mileage.  It does smell pretty good though.
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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/16/2008 9:16:30 AM   
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did they give the grounds for cancellation?  i would think that in the refining system that i saw, there would be some bi-product of the cooking process that may end up passing through the fuel system.


This is the post I was referring to, it has since grown and is even out of date given some more recent posts.  I was interested in making my own a little over a year ago which brought me to that post.  Of course I would have needed to buy a Diesel for my daily driver.  But in the end I said screw it.  It is to easy to pay the pump, of course I may change my mind someday

http://www.dodgeforum.com/m_608909/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/16/2008 12:18:49 PM   
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It's hard to get without over paying for it where I live. When I have found it, I do run it. No noticeable difference. I don't' see any power loss OR decrease in milage. It may have been my imagination, but I swear I had an increase in milage. I didn't do any numbers, so I have no proof of anything. If anyone has any leads on reasonably priced Bio-Diesel - please feel free to drop me a line.

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/17/2008 5:08:08 PM   
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I've been running B20 in my truck since August of last year.  It runs better than petro diesel, I don't have to add any additives to the fuel because it has better lubricating properties, it cost 10 cents less a gallon and 20% of the money I spend on fuel now stays inside the US, instead of foreign countries and greedy oil company pockets.


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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/17/2008 6:14:18 PM   
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I have ran straight waste vegetable oil in my truck. The only problem I have encountered was the weather too cold and I blended too much. I am going to start again when the weather warms up. I need to work on a pump system of some sort as I am going to get some drums tomorrow for storage. When I was running the wvo I had no noticable difference in power or mileage. I would like to get a 2nd tank and do this the way people say it has to be done. but I think after summer time I might be able to have the budget for that if all goes well. until then I will just get it and poor it in, again once the weather is right.

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/20/2008 5:22:24 PM   
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I have run B100 in my truck alot but when its prety cold outside, it has a tad of problem starting up but when its plugged it, its starts up just fine. A friend of mine, his dad runs straight vega oil in his all year long but its like a 96 too.

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/20/2008 10:48:12 PM   
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I've never run it in my Ram. I'd be interrested in running it in something other than my daily driver. Right now it seems a little too problematic, or at least have the potential to be. 

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/25/2008 9:15:30 AM   
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I bought a Ford Escort 1600 diesel in England (UK) for forty pounds ($80) when I was out of work. It help that I could go for job interviews. Because diesel in England was one pound per litre ( $7.20 gallon ) and unemployment was fifty pounds per week I had to be thrifty. I found a bloke who had a burger van and left all his oil for the bin men. I filtered it through a J cloth and put it into the Escort  fuel tank. I got it up to about 60/40 (used veg oil/diesel)  before it was too thick to go through the pump. The car smelled like a mobile fish and chip shop !  Later I  mixed the filtered  oil with custic soda etc, this thins the oil to a diesel  strengh. It ran fine for two years, I got a job and sold the car for fifty pounds ! Two things I will mention, veggie oil cleans everything, fuel tank, fuel lines and throws it into your fuel filter. I always carry a spare and change every oil change. Second, veggie oil will affect any rubber it comes into contact with, my Escort started to weep around the injectors, the price I paid for the car I didn`t care. My car had a Lucas fuel pump which needs lube from the diesel, veg oil would affect that although in two years of bunging veg oil through it, nothing happened ? The Bosch pump for the Escort is sealed so was not affected, shame mine had the Lucas. I think I got a little less mpg but being poor I never thrashed and still got 50mpg.

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/29/2008 9:04:31 PM   
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i run straight vegtable oil in mine and start/ stop with homemade diesel (bio-diesel) i have not had any problems except paying $3.49 a gallon when i was away from the house...

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/30/2008 6:05:53 AM   
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            How many miles have you done running on straight veg oil ? When I put it in my 1986 Ford Escort 1.6 It would stop after more than a 60/40 mix (veg oil/diesel), I could drive at about 30mph if I had to get somewhere. Also newer vehicals have modified rubber/plastic in the fuel pipe connections etc. This should stop leaking caused by veg oil.

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RE: Question about Biodiesel - 1/30/2008 6:32:42 AM   
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quote:

Also newer vehicals have modified rubber/plastic in the fuel pipe connections etc. This should stop leaking caused by veg oil.

Rubber parts in the fuel line should not be an issue on any vehicle made after 1996.  They were required in the US after 1996 to use vitron instead of rubber so that they would be compatible with alcohol blended fuels.

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