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RE: hood scoop - 10/18/2007 8:35:04 AM
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markio
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Here is a crude version of what it could look like with the Lund style dual scoops. I do not have photoshop here at work, so I had to use ms paint. Sorry it is so crappy, but it gives a general idea.
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RE: hood scoop - 10/18/2007 9:36:57 AM
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futil
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Actually I just finished painting my dual Lund scoops and they are dry now.. so I will post pics of what it looks like on my car.. You did a good job on the photo by the way.. That's exactly what they look like on my car lol :) I don't know if I should even bother posting a pic of my car now lol (Even though my paint is black)
The paint I ordered came out awesome.. perfect match, dried quickly, and the clearcoat went on smooth.. I did a better job on the scoops than the factory did on painting the car which is surprising because I'm not a professional painter. Probably says something for the paint quality on the car lol
I was waiting on a warm dry day to put them on the car so I won't trap any moisture under the scoops.. plus I was waiting for some of the wax to fade from the hood so I have been waxing everything but the hood for the past few weeks.. looks like im probably going to have to strip the wax off cause its still going strong lol.
That's the exact reason why I went with the dual Lund scoops though.. to preserve the lines in the hood plus I though it might have been a little cheesy looking having the lines go under a single hood scoop.
All in all im happy with the quality of the Lund dual scoops.. But the grille they send with them does not look like it was made for the scoop as it doesn't fit the hole correctly.. it fits but it doesn't look correct.. The only other complaint with them is there was mould lines that I had to sand down but they would have looked fine if I left them as they followed the contour of the scoop.
< Message edited by futil -- 10/18/2007 9:50:17 AM >
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RE: hood scoop - 10/18/2007 6:27:45 PM
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jvandover
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Definitely post some pics up man, love to see what it looks like.
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RE: hood scoop - 10/19/2007 7:46:36 AM
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Avenger_GA
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Those Lund scoops are what I put on my 2003 Explorer (had them professionally painted as I didn't want to mess them up... had the inside grille painted to match the accent color on the truck ;^) They are excellent looking, fit great and get lots of compliments... I'd love to see how they came out on the car. I'm toying with the charger SRT scoop, but wold like to try it out on the hood before buying (for fit and final look).
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RE: hood scoop - 10/19/2007 9:09:56 AM
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futil
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Ok, Ill put some pics up when I stick the scoops on... Guess what its doing now here... Raining.. Again! This weather is killing me.. I just want to stick these things on the hood and cant get a good day to do it..
I put in a line level control knob in the car last night to control the bass from my subs from the front of the car and since I had the dash apart I routed the Aux line in the front of the radio inside the trim and down through the center console so I don't have wires dangling all the time from the radio.. I also mounted a gooseneck for my handheld computer (So I can watch DVDs and drive.. Until I get around to buying FreeGig) :) so I spent my time last night doing that stuff but if I knew it was going to rain I would have just stuck the scoops on (Didn't want to do it at night cause I can see me putting them on crooked and then noticing in the morning) lol
I was also holding off on taking pics of the car cause I wanted to tint the windows and didn't get to it yet.. but no biggie.. Ill take/post em when i put the scoops on.
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RE: hood scoop - 10/19/2007 10:02:19 AM
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SueK
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quote:
ORIGINAL: futil
Ok, Ill put some pics up when I stick the scoops on... Guess what its doing now here... Raining.. Again! This weather is killing me.. I just want to stick these things on the hood and cant get a good day to do it..
I put in a line level control knob in the car last night to control the bass from my subs from the front of the car and since I had the dash apart I routed the Aux line in the front of the radio inside the trim and down through the center console so I don't have wires dangling all the time from the radio.. I also mounted a gooseneck for my handheld computer (So I can watch DVDs and drive.. Until I get around to buying FreeGig) :) so I spent my time last night doing that stuff but if I knew it was going to rain I would have just stuck the scoops on (Didn't want to do it at night cause I can see me putting them on crooked and then noticing in the morning) lol
I was also holding off on taking pics of the car cause I wanted to tint the windows and didn't get to it yet.. but no biggie.. Ill take/post em when i put the scoops on.
Ya it's raining here too in Connecticut. Are you in New England? Maybe tomorrow you'll be able to work on the car. It's supposed to clear up here.
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RE: hood scoop - 10/19/2007 3:27:34 PM
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futil
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Close.. Im in Long Island, New York, US
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RE: hood scoop - 10/20/2007 1:05:50 AM
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futil
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Im bored out of my mind since its still raining here.. So here I am on the forums again.. I have all this stuff I want to do to the car but since I can't I'm searching for more stuff to buy and install later..
I wanted to get a decent Voltmeter for the car but I wound up buying this http://www.scangauge.com/ which I pretty much bought just cause it had a voltmeter since the car has most of the other features built in. lol but it should come in handy later on when the check engine light starts popping up which im sure is going to happen with this car the way things have been going with my car so far. (That's the way I am trying to justify essentially buying a $170 voltmeter in my head) :) Im planning on mounting it below the cigarette lighter.
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RE: hood scoop - 10/20/2007 8:56:42 AM
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futil
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Thanks :) This weekend I am going to finish a gooseneck and Power/Audio/USB hard drive wiring for my handheld computer. I basically modified a gooseneck to accept the docking station for the handheld computer and want to tie it into the radio as well as run a secondary GPS and an external DVD player.
I also need to finish rerouting the Aux input.. Basically I took a 3.5mm audio plug extension, plugged it into the radio and routed it into the dash board and through the center console then it goes into a 3 way splitter that I will hook up the handheld computer and iPod into.. I didn't like the Aux wires hanging out and draped across the car from the radio..so this should be a lot neater and allows me to plug more devices into the aux input so I can switch instantly between devices or even have them play simultaneously.. Good for if I get the urge to DJ in the car :)
I'm also going to add a 3 way Cigarette lighter so I can add a power inverter, and recharge the ipod/computer. I will probably mount a small and discrete A/C plug into the glove compartment or center console..
But that's what I have planned for this weekend until I get the trip computer/voltmeter. ..then its probably back to finding more stuff to modify
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RE: hood scoop - 10/20/2007 4:12:25 PM
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JBattley
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Do you have photos of the work you have done? Sounds neat and like I may want to try it myself but I would hate to approach it without a guide.
My skill with cars and mods is... how do you say... sub par...
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RE: hood scoop - 10/21/2007 12:17:29 PM
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futil
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I forgot to take pics of it but there wasn't much to it..
I didn't have to prep the hood scoops aside of 2 very small lines that could have been left on the scoops but I didn't like them so I used a really fine sandpaper to sand them down then wiping them down with alcohol before painting to remove oils and dirt.
I didn't use any primer on the scoops since they aren't metal and didn't really need it.
I purchased my paint from here:
http://www.automotivetouchup.com/choosecolor/choosecolor.aspx?year=2008&make=Dodge&model=Avenger
( 2008 Dodge Avenger, 2 12 oz Aerosol Spray Paint Brilliant Black Prl ) and
2 cans of clearcoat http://www.automotivetouchup.com/spray_paint_clearcoat.aspx
If you are going to paint them yourself then make sure you get some clearcoat too as the basecoat looks glossy when its wet but will dry looking flat. It's the clearcoat that makes the basecoat shiny. I figured I would mention that since some people are used to working with glossy touchup paints that don't require a clearcoat.
I then painted the scoops using the basecoat (Brilliant Black Pearl). I sprayed a light coat of paint covering the scoops evenly. Then waited 15 minutes for it to dry, then laid down another coat of basecoat. I put down 6 coats of basecoat.
One step I didn't do which I should have was sanding off any little pieces of dust that stuck to the paint as I was painting it. So I basically have a few imperfections in the paint because I just continued to paint over anything that landed on the paint. Which was just a few small particles. But I ran out of fine sandpaper so I just said screw it. The finish came out fine but would have been perfect if I would have sanded the particles out, cleaned it with alcohol, then applied the next coat.
I waited 30 minutes for the last basecoat to dry then I started spraying the clearcoat. I sprayed 8 coats of clearcoat waiting 10 minutes between coats and I know that was overkill using 8 coats but I plan on buffing out the imperfections and I wanted to leave a deep coat of clearcoat so I can buff the clearcoat down to a mirror finish taking out the slight orange peel finish.
After that I just let it sit for 2 days to fully dry. (Even though it is dry to the touch, When you push down on the scoops to install them you will leave fingerprints in the paint if you don't allow the scoops to dry for long enough). I put down so many coats that I still have a slight fingerprint issue when I stuck them to my hood so I probably should have waited about a week.. But I smoothed out the fingerprints just by rubbing lightly on the surface and they look fine now.
I looked the included grilles over and they could have been left alone (They were a flat black plastic color and the unpainted color contrast looked good) but I later decided to put 2 coats of basecoat and 1 coat of clearcoat on them and I am pretty happy with the way they look painted as they blend better now but still have a grille texture to them. All in all I think they look better than if I just left them alone as they don't look as cheap/fake look to them now.
I wanted to note a few things about painting,
1) Use even strokes and instead of putting too much paint, error on the side of putting less as you will get runs which are not desirable.
2) When painting small areas watch the overspray, basically when you are painting you want to keep the whole scoop wet with paint (Not dripping) so that overspray from another pass will blend in with the existing paint. If you spray new paint over dry paint in a small area and you don't plan on repainting the whole area you will end up with overspray.
Installation:
Wash your car or make sure its clean by wiping down your hood to remove any foreign objects.
Lay the hood scoops on the hood and find the layout where it looks best.
When you are happy with the layout then use 1 scoop as a guide.
Then use a tape measure and measure the distance between the back of the scoop and the top of the hood then adjust the second scoop using those measurements. (I placed my scoops at 9 1/2 inches from the back of the hood)
Do the same with horizontal placement. I wanted the scoops lined up with the center hood lines, So I measured from the crease to the side of the scoop in 2 places (The front and back of the side of the scoop). (I placed my scoops at 2 1/2" from the center crease)
When both scoops are aligned, Take tape and mask the hood of your car around the entire scoop so you wont lose the placement. Then recheck the measurements on the second scoop and them mask around that one.
Clean the hood inside the masked off areas with alcohol on a soft towel.
After the alcohol dries then you can peel off the tape backing and place the scoops. I removed the tape backing from the entire front of the scoop and the the tips of each end of the tape on the back and sides and peeled them back just far enough to stick out the sides of the scoop. I did this so that the whole scoop wouldn't stick to the hood so if it did not sit right on the hood I could remove it for a second try.
I aligned the front points of the scoop following the masking area on the hood and placed the scoop on the hood. When I was happy with the placement, I peeled the side and back tape backings off which were sticking out the side when I placed the scoops. Just pull straight back on the tape backing tabs you created.
I then applied pressure around the scoops to ensure they stuck.
After 1 month you can wax the scoops but since the paint is still curing you should wait 1 month. (I put a little detailing spray on them to get the fingerprints off and to make them shine better.. but you're really not supposed to..)
< Message edited by futil -- 10/21/2007 1:06:53 PM >
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RE: hood scoop - 10/23/2007 10:02:58 PM
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futil
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Just an update..
When you put anything that sticks on your car strip the wax off, then wash it with joy or some other dish washing liquid soap to make sure you get everything off.. cause the scoops keep coming up a little on the sides since the scoops had a slight upward bow to them and I only cleaned the hood surface with alcohol.. which apparently didn't cut it.. Out of desperation (Since I really don't want to have to take them off and reapply tape, strip the wax etc.. I have 2 5 gallon water containers sitting on then right now filled with water for constant weight so hopefully they will stick permanently..
It looks sooo stupid with these big containers on the car.. hopefully this lame attempt will work cause I'm not in the mood to redo everything again..
I would (Almost) rather rivet them to the car than take them off again.
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