Dodge EV Concept -versus- 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
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Dodge EV Concept -versus- 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Based on the front page article about the Dodge EV beating the Dodge Challenger, what are your thoughts about the performance based electric vehicle?
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The challenger sounds a lot cooler...
It's clear that the challenger let off at the end of the second run and had a slow shift during the first run. However, it was still impressive that the electric car was able to keep up with it. The only question is how long would the electric car run for? On a short run the electric might win but on a track with say 50 laps or so who would win then?
It's clear that the challenger let off at the end of the second run and had a slow shift during the first run. However, it was still impressive that the electric car was able to keep up with it. The only question is how long would the electric car run for? On a short run the electric might win but on a track with say 50 laps or so who would win then?
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That's the drawback of the electric...they are powerful but you either got only a few runs or you have to lug around a bunch of batteries which then makes you slow...
If they could/are (I'm sure they are) developing some sort of lithium technology for the batteries it would probably make them more attractive (smaller and a longer range). The only thing is once you get to the point, you have to obtain the electricity somehow and burning oil/coal to power cars doesn't make much sense to me. On the other hand if you used solar and hydroelectric power to run them it would make sense. Charge time is another issue. A gas car will always be ready for you where the electric takes a while to charge. If they could combine good battery technology, a non-polluting way to get the electricity, decrease the charge time and increase the range then I could see electric cars being a viable option for the future of our transportation.
If they could/are (I'm sure they are) developing some sort of lithium technology for the batteries it would probably make them more attractive (smaller and a longer range). The only thing is once you get to the point, you have to obtain the electricity somehow and burning oil/coal to power cars doesn't make much sense to me. On the other hand if you used solar and hydroelectric power to run them it would make sense. Charge time is another issue. A gas car will always be ready for you where the electric takes a while to charge. If they could combine good battery technology, a non-polluting way to get the electricity, decrease the charge time and increase the range then I could see electric cars being a viable option for the future of our transportation.
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I think the internal combustion engine is the greatest device man has created. I still think that Chrysler is making the right move with this EV. If we could get just 25% of the market into electric cars, that would guarantee good cars, like the Charger/Challenger would continue. I was reading on the Heritage Foundation website that the middle east and Alaska have 150-300 years of oil at the present usage rate. That means we aren't running out anytime soon, so a little conservation now will make it last alot longer later. Essentailly, cars like the EV will give everybody what they want.
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I think the internal combustion engine is the greatest device man has created. I still think that Chrysler is making the right move with this EV. If we could get just 25% of the market into electric cars, that would guarantee good cars, like the Charger/Challenger would continue. I was reading on the Heritage Foundation website that the middle east and Alaska have 150-300 years of oil at the present usage rate. That means we aren't running out anytime soon, so a little conservation now will make it last alot longer later. Essentailly, cars like the EV will give everybody what they want.
Who knows, maybe they could create a pickup that has a solar bed cover that will be able to charge itself around the clock and still look and perform like a normal truck you see on the road today. Same thing with semis, buses, trains. A lot could happen over the next 100 years...
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electric cars are a VERY bad idea. First off, like someone else said, you have to generate the electricity somehow and thats usually right back to oil. BUT consider this: Batteries only have so long of a life. That electrolytic solution is pure toxic waste and we have no way to recycle it. You can rebuild an engine. If its past rebuilding, you can melt it down and cast a new block. Who bothers to do this to a worn-out car? Enthusiasts. And enthusiasts have no interest in electric cars. In fact, the bulk of us are downright repulsed by them. So when your electric toaster quits moving when you put the key in, it hits the scrap pile. Takes energy to recycle it, and even more to build a replacement. So how's this a viable solution?
Internal combustion is tried and true. Its proven to be reliable. You can theoretically keep a 'real' car going forever if you keep it in tune and put forth the effort. And fossil fuels arent the only option. There's ethanol, CNG, hydrogen, biodiesel, etc. It can be clean, cheap power and they guy who wants to hear 8 cylinders howl from under the hood of a muscle coupe while boiling the rear tires still gets to have his fun. And that car (provided it isnt laden with electronic gimmicks and government mandated garbage to fail and cost money) is viable to keep in service as long as someone is interested in the car. One trip out west here where you see 40+ year old cars and trucks still going is proof of that. rebuilding an old jeep or mustang is the ultimate in sustainability and green technology since they are 100% recyclable. Not into soup cans or iPods but into serviceable reliable vehicles.
Internal combustion is tried and true. Its proven to be reliable. You can theoretically keep a 'real' car going forever if you keep it in tune and put forth the effort. And fossil fuels arent the only option. There's ethanol, CNG, hydrogen, biodiesel, etc. It can be clean, cheap power and they guy who wants to hear 8 cylinders howl from under the hood of a muscle coupe while boiling the rear tires still gets to have his fun. And that car (provided it isnt laden with electronic gimmicks and government mandated garbage to fail and cost money) is viable to keep in service as long as someone is interested in the car. One trip out west here where you see 40+ year old cars and trucks still going is proof of that. rebuilding an old jeep or mustang is the ultimate in sustainability and green technology since they are 100% recyclable. Not into soup cans or iPods but into serviceable reliable vehicles.